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post #3451 of 4926
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Originally Posted by eantala View Post
 

very helpful obsevations.  I was very close to pulling the trigger on a X but decided to hold back for a bit to get more feedback as some of the intitial reviews were a bit too much over the top.  I see alot of others who are also echoing your findings. 

 

Don't assume that your taste is equal to mine. If you're in the mood of spending big money for an LCD, try to arrange a test and decide for yourself.

post #3452 of 4926

but it matters much which amp are being  used to share those lcd's ' plus each of  them , may require a  different amps, to pair them well "

post #3453 of 4926
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Originally Posted by mbrennwa View Post

I did a comparison of the LCD-X, LCD-2 and LCD-3 in a local shop yesterday. I ran the LCDs off my Linnenberg u:c:a MK2 DAC/HeadAmp using a MacBook with Audirvana software. The LCD-2 was a shop demo, so it was probably broken in fairly well. The LCD-X was broken in specifically for the test by playing music over night. The LCD-3 was fresh out of the box, not broken in. I first listened to the LCD-2, then the LCD-X, then the LCD-3. I did my best to adjust the volumes after changing from one LCD to another in order to compensate for sensitivity differences of the LCDs.

 

Here's what I found (spoiler alert: my findings are somewhat different from the mainstream):


Going from LCD-2 to LCD-X: The LCD-X had more drive and ‘speed’ than LCD-2. The LCD-X sounded brighter and therefore (objectively) more balanced than the LCD-2, but that was not important to me (I don't mind the somewhat dark presentation of the LCD-2 at all). In fact, the LCD-X sounded a wee bit harsh compared to the LCD-2. ’S’ sounds sometimes sounded like ‘Z’. For instance, this was very obvious with the famous Christy Baron / Ain’t no Sunshine track.

 

Going from LCD-X to LCD-3: The LCD-3 sounds warmer than the LCD-X. The tonal balance is somewhere in between LCD-2 and LCD-X (again, not an important point for me). The LCD-3 sound has more air, the presentation is more relaxed and light-footed at the same time. The LCD-3 retains the 'speed' of the LCD-X, but lacks the the tendency for harshness observed with the LCD-X.


Further tests (switching between the three headphones) confirmed the above impressions. Overall, I preferred the LCD-2 and LCD-3 over the LCD-X, especially when it comes to 'listening fatigue' when listening for a long time (more than an hour or so). The LCD-2 sounds lame compared to LCD-3 (ok, that's a gross exaggeration). Music shines more with LCD-3, has more glow, emotion, and expression. With the LCD-3 I felt closer to the musicians than with the LCD-2.

 

In conclusion, the tonal balance of the LCD-X may be better than with the LCD-2 in 'objective' HiFi terms (if that exists). However, I would not be happy with the LCD-X in the long term due to it's tendency for harsh 'S' sounds. From the three LCDs, I clearly preferred the (not yet broken-in!) LCD-3. This conclusion may have rather negative effects on my wallet.

 

Cheers

mbrennwa

 



Same impressions here.
I demoed a lot between the lcd-3 and lcd-x and i finally pull the trigger on the lcd-x.
The lcd-3 has more air and is smoother and its end up giving the impression of being less precise than the lcd-x. The lcd-x feels like being more intimate too. That's why i bought the lcd-x
post #3454 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Dook0 View Post


Same impressions here.
I demoed a lot between the lcd-3 and lcd-x and i finally pull the trigger on the lcd-x.
The lcd-3 has more air and is smoother and its end up giving the impression of being less precise than the lcd-x. The lcd-x feels like being more intimate too. That's why i bought the lcd-x

true  its a matter of preference .  i owned both and i sold the lcd3 . i prefer the lcd x becauuse for me i wnat more upper frequency / treble while not sounding harsh ,  the lcd-3 is too dark for me . the bass i can live with either .

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My X had much more  and faster bass  than the 2 or the 3, but my impression is that it muddied the lower mids, as they sounded like distorted, and not clean. Than I had a big dip on the upper mids or lower highs which made it sound like veiled or congested, and then the upper highs were OK. But take my impressions with a grain of salt, as mine could be defective, and I sent them back to be checked.

post #3456 of 4926
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Originally Posted by zeiter View Post
 

My X had much more  and faster bass  than the 2 or the 3, but my impression is that it muddied the lower mids, as they sounded like distorted, and not clean. Than I had a big dip on the upper mids or lower highs which made it sound like veiled or congested, and then the upper highs were OK. But take my impressions with a grain of salt, as mine could be defective, and I sent them back to be checked.

yeah , the only way to go about this is if u have the cash - buy both and use it in your system .  if u dont ull be asking yourself  forever if the one is better than the other .......

 

i mean even if u listen to them in a meet = it is still not your system  unless its exactly the same , when amps,souces ,cables etc are changed - the sound changes a bit 

post #3457 of 4926
I'm pretty happy with the way this came out. At some point I'll upgrade the splitter, I ended up shaping and drilling a little piece of wood. I'll put a few build photos in the cable thread and link here. smily_headphones1.gif
Here it is:


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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy View Post

Yeah, it's the 4S6s lack of a shield that I like. A L-4E6S without a shield would be perfect.

Look forward to the photos. Will you be posting them in this thread?

se
post #3458 of 4926
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Originally Posted by GrindingThud View Post

I'm pretty happy with the way this came out. At some point I'll upgrade the splitter, I ended up shaping and drilling a little piece of wood. I'll put a few build photos in the cable thread and link here. smily_headphones1.gif
Here it is:
 

 

Oh, sweet! Good job!

 

What do you have on the Y's that seems to match the purple of the L-4E6S so well?

 

se

post #3459 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Red Jacket Mike View Post
 

I love the cable, but I'd have to honestly say I can't really hear an audible difference.  But, I've been re-listening to a lot of my old stuff, and appreciating the new life a lot of these recordings have with the LCD-X.  So, in that sense, almost everything is sounding better.  I've switched in the stock cable, and sometimes I think the mids are a bit leaner sounding with it, but then I'm not so sure--placebo, maybe.  I do know that the stock cable is heavy, noisy against my shirt, and ugly.  

 

As for the Q cable, absolutely zero micro phonics, which was the main reason I purchased it; and of course, a cable that doesn't make any physical noise when it brushes your clothing is also going to be incredibly light.  The workmanship and looks are also top notch.  I'm thinking of getting another in the same color (along with the 'ears') for my HD-800s.

 

I've got Mary Black's 'Shine' on right now.  Gorgeous sounding. 

 

Thanks for the info.  Love the LCD-X!!  :beyersmile:

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I got Q cable for my LCD-2, another Q cable for my LCD-3 and just ordered a third one for my LCD-X. They have another new dark red in addition to the bright red from before. My favorite cable, no contest.

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Originally Posted by groovyd View Post
 

Impressions please...

 

I would like to ask the LCD-X community to listen to 'De' by Control Machete off the album 'Uno, Dos: Bandera' and post some impressions of the headphones performance on this song.  Very curious how you find the impact of the heavy bass in the background and the punch of the kick drum in contrast to the vocals and their clarity, as well as the headphones ability to present an immersive and realistic sound stage.

 

Does the LCD-X pull off this song?  And if there is another headphone in your collection that does it better, which one, how and why?

 

I previewed this song on iTunes.  Setup:  iTunes -> USB -> Uber Frost -> Asgard2 -> LCD-X.

Instrument separation is exceptional.  Obviously a well-produced album.

Bass is somewhat lacking, for what I think you are looking for.  Bass is clear but not punchy.  Maybe the LCD-XC closed cans would provide more bass punch to this music?  I can't directly comment on the LCD-XC as I don't have those cans.

 

I hope this helps -

RCBinTN

post #3462 of 4926
Thanks! I used this purple paracord:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321220566520?var=510164241279&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy View Post

Oh, sweet! Good job!

What do you have on the Y's that seems to match the purple of the L-4E6S so well?

se
post #3463 of 4926
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Originally Posted by zeiter View Post

I got Q cable for my LCD-2, another Q cable for my LCD-3 and just ordered a third one for my LCD-X. They have another new dark red in addition to the bright red from before. My favorite cable, no contest.

Photos, please !!
post #3464 of 4926
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Originally Posted by GrindingThud View Post

Thanks! I used this purple paracord:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321220566520?var=510164241279&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Ah. Looks like you couldn't have asked for a better natch.

se
post #3465 of 4926
That purple cable is kinda sexy, in a Ru Paul sorta way.
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