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I've heard the LCD2 yes.  Its midrange is very balanced, but the presence region around 3khz was a tiiiny bit below neutral.  It also could have used a treble boost of abound 2-3db throughout its entire treble range.

 

I probably wouldn't get much LCD-X complaint posting on an LCD-X thread, but I assume there are at least some honest people here and there.


I owned the LCD-2's for just over a year and although I think they're excellent, I had some issues with sub-bass that could sound loose at times, and treble that sounded subdued (and occasionally a touch grainy) compared to the mids and bass. Although the LCD-3s have a clear technical edge, the mid-centric signature wasn't my preference. For me, the LCD-X's have addressed the technical issues of the LCD-2s, added refinement and detail, and have a balanced signature I love.

 

This thread is full of honest opinions from people with considerable head-fi experience. If you think the posts are suspect because people are generally pleased with the LCD-Xs--then there's no substitute for auditioning them yourself. I was happy with my LCD-2s and would have immediately sent the LCD-Xs back for a refund if I didn't think they were worth the (considerable) additional cost. I'm not rich and have no interest in needlessly spending money. The posters on this thread have a range of equipment and no special relationships or financial interests in Audeze.

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You have to admit, I've seen maybe a handful of negative impressions in this thread contrary to other places on the net. Of course the best way is to audition yourself, but that isn't always possible. These are extremely hyped headphones (fittingly so as they seems to be a revolutionary shift for Audeze which have a lot of fans here on Head-Fi) but I didn't find them to be the bees knees as a lot of impressions seem to paint them as. A good headphone for those that want a tad more treble energy and a bit more neutral sig. Other than that I found a non-veiled LCD-3 to be more natural with better resolution. YMMV


Edited by Greed - 2/21/14 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

You have to admit, I've seen maybe a handful of negative impressions in this thread contrary to other places on the net. Of course the best way is to audition yourself, but that isn't always possible. These are extremely hyped headphones (fittingly so as they seems to be a revolutionary shift for Audeze which have a lot of fans here on Head-Fi) but I didn't find them to be the bees knees as a lot of impressions seem to paint them as. A good headphone for those that want more a tad more treble energy and a bit more neutral sig. Other than that I found a non-veiled LCD-3 to be more natural with better resolution. YMMV

 

Amen.

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I've heard the LCD2 yes.  Its midrange is very balanced, but the presence region around 3khz was a tiiiny bit below neutral.  It also could have used a treble boost of abound 2-3db throughout its entire treble range.

I probably wouldn't get much LCD-X complaint posting on an LCD-X thread, but I assume there are at least some honest people here and there.


I owned the LCD-2's for just over a year and although I think they're excellent, I had some issues with sub-bass that could sound loose at times, and treble that sounded subdued (and occasionally a touch grainy) compared to the mids and bass. Although the LCD-3s have a clear technical edge, the mid-centric signature wasn't my preference. For me, the LCD-X's have addressed the technical issues of the LCD-2s, added refinement and detail, and have a balanced signature I love.

This thread is full of honest opinions from people with considerable head-fi experience. If you think the posts are suspect because people are generally pleased with the LCD-Xs--then there's no substitute for auditioning them yourself. I was happy with my LCD-2s and would have immediately sent the LCD-Xs back for a refund if I didn't think they were worth the (considerable) additional cost. I'm not rich and have no interest in needlessly spending money. The posters on this thread have a range of equipment and no special relationships or financial interests in Audeze.

This sums it up pretty well from my perspective. I waffled (badly) between the LCD X and the Lcd 3. I read reviews and forum posts forum posts and PM'd several members seeking guidance. I opted for the X mostly because it is "newer" and because I really like the black vs the dark brown 3's. I was fully prepared to send them back if there was no discernible improvement over the LCD 2's that I own. To my ears, the improvement really was much more dramatic than I anticipated and I suspect I would have been just as happy with the 3's. I've probably become a bit of a fanboy because the X is measurably better than my particular LCD 2's. Listening for yourself is obviously the best advice; I am personally EXTREMELY pleased with my choice.
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

You have to admit, I've seen maybe a handful of negative impressions in this thread contrary to other places on the net. Of course the best way is to audition yourself, but that isn't always possible. These are extremely hyped headphones (fittingly so as they seems to be a revolutionary shift for Audeze which have a lot of fans here on Head-Fi) but I didn't find them to be the bees knees as a lot of impressions seem to paint them as. A good headphone for those that want a tad more treble energy and a bit more neutral sig. Other than that I found a non-veiled LCD-3 to be more natural with better resolution. YMMV


The LCD-3 is a great headphone and I understand preferring its signature. I can't hear any added detail over the LCD-X, but the mid-detail is more apparent, just as I perceive the treble detail of the LCD-X to be more apparent.  I don't think there's any more or less detail, but the differing signatures can shift your focus.

 

Head-fi is the largest, most diverse headphone site I know and I haven't seen any evidence of mods deleting or discouraging any opinions in this thread. If some people want to call honest opinions from experienced owners hype, so be it. To me hype is saying a headphone is great, or better than another, when it hasn't even been released yet. Enthusiasm (which fuels this site) is not the same thing as hype, just because someone doesn't agree.

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Anyone in the Boston area with LCD-X's? I have an Auralic Vega and Taurus Mk.II with LCD-2's and would love to hear the X's.

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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post
 

The LCD-3 is a great headphone and I understand preferring its signature. I can't hear any added detail over the LCD-X, but the mid-detail is more apparent, just as I perceive the treble detail of the LCD-X to be more apparent.  I don't think there's any more or less detail, but the differing signatures can shift your focus.

 

Does the LCD-3 work better for certain genres or is it just a choice of preference?

post #3248 of 5163
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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post
 


The LCD-3 is a great headphone and I understand preferring its signature. I can't hear any added detail over the LCD-X, but the mid-detail is more apparent, just as I perceive the treble detail of the LCD-X to be more apparent.  I don't think there's any more or less detail, but the differing signatures can shift your focus.

 

Head-fi is the largest, most diverse headphone site I know and I haven't seen any evidence of mods deleting or discouraging any opinions in this thread. If some people want to call honest opinions from experienced owners hype, so be it. To me hype is saying a headphone is great, or better than another, when it hasn't even been released yet. Enthusiasm (which fuels this site) is not the same thing as hype, just because someone doesn't agree.

 

I do prefer its signature, but that is neither here nor there - technically I think the LCD-3 is still a better headphone although they are very similar. 

 

@bold text - I never implied any of that, and I sure hope not. As for honest opinions, well that can't be proven so I can't comment on that. These headphones are without a doubt hyped by definition. What you are seeing as enthusiasm can easily be seen as hype, especially if some of these impressions have no reference, but are just off-the-cuff comments from people who have heard these headphones once at a meet with unfamiliar gear and music, in a noisy environment. I don't feel these are bad headphones, actually they are quite good and I'm glad Audeze is taking a different approach to their tuning but these aren't for me for a few reasons. I should go back and quote some of the impressions from a few people to prove my point that these were/are hyped, but I'm too lazy right now. 


Edited by Greed - 2/21/14 at 11:11am
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Does the LCD-3 work better for certain genres or is it just a choice of preference?


To me, it's mostly preference. The only exception is dense orchestral music--where I think headphones with more treble response are helpful in separating details that can get lost in the murk.

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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

 

I do prefer its signature, but that is neither here nor there - technically I think the LCD-3 is still a better headphone although they are very similar. 

 

@bold text - I never implied any of that, and I sure hope not. As for honest opinions, well that can't be proven so I can't comment on that. These headphones are without a doubt hyped by definition. What you are seeing as enthusiasm can easily be seen as hype, especially if some of these impressions have no reference, but are just off-the-cuff comments from people who have heard these headphones once at a meet with unfamiliar gear and music, in a noisy environment. I don't feel these are bad headphones, actually they are quite good and I'm glad Audeze is taking a different approach to their tuning but these aren't for me for a few reasons. I should go back and quote some of the impressions from a few people to prove my point that these were/are hyped, but I'm too lazy right now. 

 

Oh yeah, there's some posts that are hype--no need to dig. :D Still, I think there's a lot of well-considered opinions from owners that are the meat of the thread. Off-topic, but did you just get the KSA-5 clone from Corey? I listened to a KSA-5 clone at the DC meet--and I'm gonna have to hype it--it was outstanding with the LCD-X.

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Oh yeah, there's some posts that are hype--no need to dig. :D Still, I think there's a lot of well-considered opinions from owners that are the meat of the thread. Off-topic, but did you just get the KSA-5 clone from Corey? I listened to a KSA-5 clone at the DC meet--and I'm gonna have to hype it--it was outstanding with the LCD-X.

 

Yea, I did. Corey is the man. Really enjoying the Klone right now, can't wait for the my headphones to return back to me. Right now I'm rocking my HD800 (only headphone atm). 

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Yea, I did. Corey is the man. Really enjoying the Klone right now, can't wait for the my headphones to return back to me. Right now I'm rocking my HD800 (only headphone atm). 

 

Pictures??

 

:popcorn:

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Pictures??

 

:popcorn:

 

Of what, the amp or my Ultra-modded, hardwired HD800's? 

post #3254 of 5163
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Yea, I did. Corey is the man. Really enjoying the Klone right now, can't wait for the my headphones to return back to me. Right now I'm rocking my HD800 (only headphone atm). 


Haha--I almost bought that KSA-5 from Corey a few weeks ago--probably a mistake on my part, but you're obviously the smarter bear. I predict it'll sound very good with all your headphones.

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Of what, the amp or my Ultra-modded, hardwired HD800's? 

 

O you got the HD800s back?  Shoot me a PM and tell me what you think about them?

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