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Originally Posted by Gadget67 View Post

As I posted earlier, my initial plan for reviewing my new LCD X was to compare them to my LCD 2's using my Mjolnir/Gungnir stack. The Mjolnir allows two headphones to play at the same time so by switching quickly back and forth between the two I could get a fairly accurate picture of how they actually differed or if one was significantly better than the other in some meaningful way. For clarity, my LCD 2's were purchased in May of 2012 and they are rev. 2. I'm using silver dragon cables for the three pin XLR balanced out and the Audeze 4 pin balanced headphone cable for the single balanced out. I'm switching the cables back and forth between the headphones to account for any difference there. My music is being streamed from my Apple IMac using Itunes and Audirvana. For the really detail oriented, I'm using a one meter Nordost blue Heaven USB to the Gungnir and the Schitt 9" XLR cables from the Gugnir to the Mjolnir. The LCD X is more efficient so I know the X's will be louder than my 2's.

So...how did it go?

Folks, this fight was over in seconds...I'm at a loss for words as to how to articulate just HOW much better the X really is. Soundstage, separation, clarity, definition, smoothness-- you name it and in my opinion, the X just has it all over my 2's. It's really that obvious. It's like that difference you experience when you get around to cleaning the inside of your car windshield. I thought I could see just fine before and suddenly everything is cleaner, brighter and visibility is crystal clear. Another by product is that one can listen at lower levels so they are also much less tiring over a long session.

To be clear, I am only comparing to my LCD 2's; later rev. 2's may be better or perhaps I don't have a great pair of 2's. I also plan to do comparisons with my Wadia 121 and Burson HA-160D but at this point I'm inclined to think the results will be similar.

Hands down, the LCD X is absolutely worth every penny and really is that much better than my LCD 2's.

thanks for sharing , yours was the main review I was waiting for as I also have the schiit stack.  I work in Manhattan so I have 4 dealers within 10 miles will need to check out who has the LCD X I dont feel like changing everything around as a roll of the dice.  One thing I always hated in high end audio is mostly everything sound too thin, too bright in the name of getting more detail.  in your opinion does the LCD X still retain the full tone of the LCD2?

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which amp/dac best suits lcd-x ?

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Originally Posted by Deverica Wolf View Post
 

 

I can always feel the LCD-2 on my head when listening but they other bother it occasionally. My neck on the other end never gets used to them. Since I've owned them, my neck will get pretty sore from time to time. I'm OK then all of a sudden I get a bad pain when I bend it. The LCD-X is even heavier. Yay.

 

 

 

If you say this is what you're experiencing then that's what you're experiencing...but while I can understand some comments people make about the comfort, the idea of getting a sore neck or "bad pain" from these just seems so incredibly far fetched when I see it in writing...

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Originally Posted by Gadget67 View Post

As I posted earlier, my initial plan for reviewing my new LCD X was to compare them to my LCD 2's using my Mjolnir/Gungnir stack. The Mjolnir allows two headphones to play at the same time so by switching quickly back and forth between the two I could get a fairly accurate picture of how they actually differed or if one was significantly better than the other in some meaningful way. For clarity, my LCD 2's were purchased in May of 2012 and they are rev. 2. I'm using silver dragon cables for the three pin XLR balanced out and the Audeze 4 pin balanced headphone cable for the single balanced out. I'm switching the cables back and forth between the headphones to account for any difference there. My music is being streamed from my Apple IMac using Itunes and Audirvana. For the really detail oriented, I'm using a one meter Nordost blue Heaven USB to the Gungnir and the Schitt 9" XLR cables from the Gugnir to the Mjolnir. The LCD X is more efficient so I know the X's will be louder than my 2's.


So...how did it go?


Folks, this fight was over in seconds...I'm at a loss for words as to how to articulate just HOW much better the X really is. Soundstage, separation, clarity, definition, smoothness-- you name it and in my opinion, the X just has it all over my 2's. It's really that obvious. It's like that difference you experience when you get around to cleaning the inside of your car windshield. I thought I could see just fine before and suddenly everything is cleaner, brighter and visibility is crystal clear. Another by product is that one can listen at lower levels so they are also much less tiring over a long session.


To be clear, I am only comparing to my LCD 2's; later rev. 2's may be better or perhaps I don't have a great pair of 2's. I also plan to do comparisons with my Wadia 121 and Burson HA-160D but at this point I'm inclined to think the results will be similar.


Hands down, the LCD X is absolutely worth every penny and really is that much better than my LCD 2's.
thanks for sharing , yours was the main review I was waiting for as I also have the schiit stack.  I work in Manhattan so I have 4 dealers within 10 miles will need to check out who has the LCD X I dont feel like changing everything around as a roll of the dice.  One thing I always hated in high end audio is mostly everything sound too thin, too bright in the name of getting more detail.  in your opinion does the LCD X still retain the full tone of the LCD2?
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I don't think the X is too thin or too bright. As to tone, I'd say the "family resemblance" is obvious but since our definitions of tone might be different I'm reluctant to comment. The X definitely sounds "bigger" and (to me, anyway) "fuller". I'd also suggest ordering from Audeze because those nasty State and City taxes will have an impact. You can send them back to Audeze within 15 days and only pay a restocking fee of 15%. I REALLY doubt you'll be sending them back though. If you can listen at a local dealer, so much the better. I do understand the leap of faith aspect though!
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Originally Posted by eantala View Post

thanks for sharing , yours was the main review I was waiting for as I also have the schiit stack.  I work in Manhattan so I have 4 dealers within 10 miles will need to check out who has the LCD X I dont feel like changing everything around as a roll of the dice.  One thing I always hated in high end audio is mostly everything sound too thin, too bright in the name of getting more detail.  in your opinion does the LCD X still retain the full tone of the LCD2?

In a nutshell, the Audeze character is still there, it's not as full as the 2, but for the big picture as a "complete" headphone, ie. ticking all the hifi boxes, then the X is the better headphone
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I don't think the X is too thin or too bright. As to tone, I'd say the "family resemblance" is obvious but since our definitions of tone might be different I'm reluctant to comment. The X definitely sounds "bigger" and (to me, anyway) "fuller". I'd also suggest ordering from Audeze because those nasty State and City taxes will have an impact. You can send them back to Audeze within 15 days and only pay a restocking fee of 15%. I REALLY doubt you'll be sending them back though. If you can listen at a local dealer, so much the better. I do understand the leap of faith aspect though!

thanks again for you feedback, I think I know what you are trying say.  The lcd2 was aimed squarely at the hd650 and they share a similar qualities ,  in aiming the LCD X squarely at the hd800 I wanted to make Audeze didnt go too far down the road in that aspect.  Im going to check these out soon so hopefully that clears things up for me, alot of experienced ears have reviews that are beyond positive so very intrigued.   

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Listening to the Tron Legacy soundtrack on the LCD-X now...ahhhh, so good!

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If only I had a pair of XC so I could also listen at work.

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Hehe.

 

Maybe try and find somewhere to listen to them smily_headphones1.gif. I took a bit of a gamble, but I live in Australia which is not the place to be if you want to try these things if you don't want to travel 2000 kms to the store that has them in stock. Maybe you will find they aren't to your liking. 

 

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I don't even think I would need to try them to be honest. From everything I've read it sounds like it corrects everything I dislike about my 2 headphones now (HD800 & LCD-2.2). I get the most listening time out of my LCD-2's as I love the warmth of the Audeze signature but I do find them congested and lacking a great soundstage. Which is why I keep my HD-800's because they do have that great soundstage but ultimately I find them a bit dry and boring. If the LCD-X really takes the wonderful bass and sound signature of the LCD-2's and adds a better soundstage like the HD800's, I honestly think I may just be best served selling both of those and buying the LCD-X as the one headphones to rule them all....

 

From reading all the posts in this thread, I would conclude the LCD-X would be somewhere between the LCD-2.2 and the HD800. 

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From reading all the posts in this thread, I would conclude the LCD-X would be somewhere between the LCD-2.2 and the HD800.

...and inhabiting in a very happy medium!

post #3221 of 4936
It's amazing reading through this thread how happy everybody is with their LCD-X. The XC thread couldn't be more different.
post #3222 of 4936
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

Since I almost exclusively listen to classical, now I understand what you are saying.


Hi Figaro,

Thanks for your info about favorite Mahler symphonies.  I tried to find the CD's but have had trouble.  Do you have any leads on where I can get high-quality recordings of Mahler's music?  Thanks - I look forward to listening to Mahler.

 

All the best -

Richard

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Originally Posted by Gowry View Post
 

If only I had a pair of XC so I could also listen at work.

 

it is ideal :darthsmile:

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

I agree, as well. I have noticed a significant difference going from my two Meier amps to my Little Dot, to my iPhone/iPod. The Xs definitely have a high degree of transparency and allow for evaluation of upstream gear. 

 

I still can't get over the detail and imaging, though...I've now had four or five different movies/shows where there was a scene with multiple people gathered together for a meeting/presentation of some kind. Each and every time the main dialogue has been perfectly front and center and intelligible, and then you have all sorts of other voices and conversations literally surrounding you. They are placed in space perfectly by the Xs and they provide a sense of literally being among the group with an uncanny realism that I've never heard before. The first time it happened (as I mentioned earlier in the thread) was with the film "Rush", but it's now happened several different times, so I know it's the headphones. 

 

I really get excited by small details like this, and in this case it's just incredibly impressive. 

 

 

+1

Try Gravity - it's killer.

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+1

Try Gravity - it's killer.

 

I can't wait to watch that

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