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post #2896 of 5525

Yeah, it doesn't really bother me too much anyway because I would plan on getting an after-market cable anyway if (let's be honest - when) I get these :)

 

They will be mine....oh yes.....they will be mine...

post #2897 of 5525
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

They are more "meaty" and musical yes. Both are fantastic and I could very happily live with either. I just preferred the more neutral presentation of the LCD-X. 

 

So Peter, do you think the mids are slightly recessed on the Xs?

post #2898 of 5525
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Originally Posted by goldendarko View Post
 

Yeah, probably just simplifying the process to keep the phones more consistent. Any idea on why they would stop supplying the balanced cables though, other than to be able to cut costs or charge more for them later? I would hope for a price drop to make up for it, but I guess that's wishful thinking :)

 

No balance cable anymore but the price remains the same ? That's really crap !

It was a big advantage that they deliver the LCD-X with both cables. ****.

post #2899 of 5525

Well, I ordered mine today after much procrastinating. Should be here tomorrow or the day after.

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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy View Post

No idea why they dropped the balanced cables. Though personally, I wouldn't miss it if I never had to make another balanced cable, if for no other reason than it would eliminate the abomination of a balanced cable with a single ended adapter on it. biggrin.gif

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...it if it wasn't so very helpful for some basic experiments while finding an adequate amp for the X, such as the solution using the Hifiman adapter shown here.
My first attempt to connect directly to the MC-30's speaker output by using a K-1000 cable also required a 4 pin balanced jack.
Without this cable I surely wouldn't have found this simple solution so easily.... if at all...
Edited by musikaladin - 2/15/14 at 9:51am
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Hi all,

Has anyone tried the WA6-SE with the LCD-X? Would it be a good choice compared to an SS amp in the same range ("around" $1k)? I started a more detailed thread in the amps forum, but wanted to get the opinion of folks with experience with the LCD-X here. My sources are ALAC through a Mac and Marantz NA7004 and the Marantz SA8001 SACD.

Thank you!
Edited by George Chronis - 2/4/14 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by George Chronis View Post

Hi all,

Has anyone tried the WA6-SE with the LCD-X? Would it be a good choice compared to an SS amp in the same range ("around" $1k)? I started a more detailed thread in the amps forum, but wanted to get the opinion of folks with experience with the LCD-X here. My sources are ALAC through a Mac and Marantz NA7004 and the Marantz SA8001 SACD.

Thank you!


I'm currently using the LCD-X with WA6SE and I think it's a good match, but not the best, though. I tried many combinations of tubes and one conclusion that I can make is that, regardless of which tubes I use, I still feel that the headphones does not perform at its best with WA6SE. I don't know if it's the qualify of the amp itself or anything, but when I hear Bakoon HPA-21, I know that my WA6Se is lacking. Everything with the Bakoon is better ie soundstage (headstage), bass, high and vocal.

 

I know that if I play around with tube rolling, I might end up with some combinations that's kinda work, but I don't think doing that would be worth the effort, as I think the headphones itself could be taken to the next level with more appropriate amp (like Bakoon).

 

But before I pulled the trigger on the Bakoon, I had a chance to listen to a local brand tube amplifier that is based on WA5 design. The manufacturer made several improvements to the design, especially the transformer, which was supplied by one of the best transformer suppliers in the world. The result? Even better than the Bakoon. The amp is retailed here at around 3,300$ (local currency converted to USD), and I'm sure that none of the commercial amplifiers with the price rage up to 6,000 USD can beat it. I will part with my WA6SE very soon to get this one.

 

 

Apology if the above is a bit off-topic. IMO, if I were to start from scratch choosing an amp for my LCD-X, I would not pick WA6Se, as I believe other amps at this price range would match it better. That's not to say WA6SE is a bad amp (I love it with my HD650). It's just that (IMO), WA6Se may not be the best match with LCD-X in this price range. Note that you must also take into account what you have to pay to get better tubes, as stock tubes are useless.

 

That's my opinion but you should at least give WA6Se a listen before making you mind. You might like it, who know.


Edited by PrTv - 2/4/14 at 10:59am
post #2903 of 5525

Thanks for the advice, PrTv. I can't really go over $1,500 on the amp and I'd like to stay closer to $1000. It's going to be used for the LCD-X mostly, so I'd like it to match as well as possible. The HPA-21 and the WA5 are int he $3k range. Maybe some day, but not right now. I will look more into SS amps around $1k, then. Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by George Chronis View Post
 

Thanks for the advice, PrTv. I can't really go over $1,500 on the amp and I'd like to stay closer to $1000. It's going to be used for the LCD-X mostly, so I'd like it to match as well as possible. The HPA-21 and the WA5 are int he $3k range. Maybe some day, but not right now. I will look more into SS amps around $1k, then. Thanks again!


 Have you looked at the Burson Soloist? It's a solid state amp that pairs well with the LCD-X from what I've read and retails for $1k, but can often be had here on Head-Fi for around $750-800 used. I also have the Burson Conductor (w/ DAC) and can say it pairs well with my Audeze's (LCD-2's)

post #2905 of 5525
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 Have you looked at the Burson Soloist? It's a solid state amp that pairs well with the LCD-X from what I've read and retails for $1k, but can often be had here on Head-Fi for around $750-800 used. I also have the Burson Conductor (w/ DAC) and can say it pairs well with my Audeze's (LCD-2's)

 

Ha. That's very funny. I just posted that I'm looking into the Soloist here.

post #2906 of 5525

Ok, nevermind then, seems like your on the right track :)

post #2907 of 5525

Also, don't know if you need or already have a DAC but if not, you may want to consider the Conductor as well, that one retails for $1850, but I was able to pick mine up for under $1200 used if your willing to do a little digging to find some deals.

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I have an Apoggee duet and a central station, which I believe are kind of run of the mill DACs, but not bad at all. For the new rig in building, I got a Marantz NA7004, which I believe is worth a try at $399. It also comes with a headphone amp section, but I'm not too optimistic on that. My LCD-X just shipped from Woo, so we shall see. Thank you!
post #2909 of 5525
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

So Peter, do you think the mids are slightly recessed on the Xs?

Less meaty doesn't mean recessed. Just not as lush. Actually the upper mids are slightly more recessed on the 3s. :smile:

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Originally Posted by goldendarko View Post
 


 Have you looked at the Burson Soloist? It's a solid state amp that pairs well with the LCD-X from what I've read and retails for $1k, but can often be had here on Head-Fi for around $750-800 used. I also have the Burson Conductor (w/ DAC) and can say it pairs well with my Audeze's (LCD-2's)

 

Ha. That's very funny. I just posted that I'm looking into the Soloist here.

I use the X's with the WA6SE with very good results, just use a DAC/source with a bit more "life", I'm using the Benchmark DAC-2 HGC...nice combo IMHO.  I would think twice about the Burson Soloist, I had it and sold it...lifeless and flat, too smooth and laid back and the volume detents troubled me, never could find the exact right gain.  I've been VERY happy with  Little Dot MK IVSE, good price and very spacious soundstage with a extraordinary tonal quality.  Some may nay say this sleeper but deserves a listen at the price.  Oh yes, plenty of power to drive anything and you can roll your own.

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