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How did you feel about LCD XC vs TH900?

I for one am not going to compare. I own the TH900 and have pre-ordered the XC :k701smile:

post #287 of 5398
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Advancing years does that................


Yes by the time I'm sitting in a nursing home, I'll have a Beats around my neck and keep yelling that it's my end game.

post #288 of 5398
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Yes by the time I'm sitting in a nursing home, I'll have a Beats around my neck and keep yelling that it's my end game.

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post #289 of 5398
In Melbourne, we were lucky enough to have Australian AV show last weekend. Impression so far could be found here:

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/57062-australian-av-audio-show-2013-reports-and-reflections/

One of our highlight as headfier, I and my mate had a chance to hear the new lcd-x side by side with lcd3, powered by auralic amp and dac at A2A booth.

Today, I had a chance to hear it, side by side with lcd3, hd800 and my th900 powered by the same auralic amp and dac. At the last 30-40 minutes, I swap to soloist. My impression so far was that the-x was clear and grain free (my old lcd2 have bit of grain). It had a bit of mid bass, which in turn make this can the ability to hit. Lcd3 seem to have more deeper bass though and more laid back. The x seem to have more forward sound signature.

Soundstage was decent, and my th900 had slightly bigger one. The x definitely had the mid of audeze.

I'm interested to audition it again in the future before commiting myself which one that I prefered, but so far, the 3 was my preference.

The opportunity to audition the x should be taken (imo), and now at Aus (Melbourne in particular), we had slight advantage compare to other country in trying this phone. Thanks to George at A2A for hand carrying this phone from last canjam so aussie headfier can audition this phone smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by jsgraha - 10/21/13 at 2:33am
post #290 of 5398
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

I'm very happy with my new LCD-2, they are so very different from the one I bought in 2011 and even slightly different from the one I got in 2012; not sure if it was poor quality control issues or steady improvement, but the new pair I have is so nice and I'm so happy. When I have it on my head I really don't want any other headphoen, which is something I've never felt since entering this hobby. It was always at least 2% dissatisfaction with some minor aspect of the sound, but for the first time I don't have that qualm. I can see my journey ending very soon and never coming back here.

Tyll Hertsens found a disturbing variability in the LCD-3 headphones sound (not sure if it extended to the LCD-2 as well).  He wasn't sure exactly what it was but theorized that something was resonating in certain headphones rather than others, causing some to sound veiled and others not veiled.  This was back in February of 2012.  Audeze halted production and began it's own internal testing.  They found that there had been a drop in quality in a source component from one of their venders (these things do happen) and had corrected the issue and created a more robust QC process.  They also fixed at no charge everyone's headphone who experienced an issue.

 

I don't know if the actual problem was ever made public.  It does make me a bit hesitant to be among the first to buy the LCD-X, but I'm going to do it anyway.  If anything it shows that Audeze is good about warranty claims (they wound up extending the warranty to 3-years).

 

One of the big questions in my mind is how picky will the LCD-X be in amp choice???  It's said to be easier to drive, but that doesn't always mean easier to find good amp pairings.

 

Anyone know what they're powering the LCD-X with at RMAF?

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I suspect they will always work best with high-current amps, especially with complex music, but as many amp designers are heading that way it will be less of an issue. There's always that thread though about using speaker amps for headphones, where the guys have been trying the inexpensive Emotiva amps.

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I'm hoping the LCD-X will keep the upper and lower mids of the LCD-3, while having more air with better treble extension.

post #293 of 5398
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Originally Posted by PuffyElvis View Post
 

Tyll Hertsens found a disturbing variability in the LCD-3 headphones sound (not sure if it extended to the LCD-2 as well).  He wasn't sure exactly what it was but theorized that something was resonating in certain headphones rather than others, causing some to sound veiled and others not veiled.  This was back in February of 2012.  Audeze halted production and began it's own internal testing.  They found that there had been a drop in quality in a source component from one of their venders (these things do happen) and had corrected the issue and created a more robust QC process.  They also fixed at no charge everyone's headphone who experienced an issue.

 

To my ears, all LCDs (or at least all samples I've owned or auditioned) sound veiled to a certain extent, even the revised unveiled ones. No idea if it's QC or part of their house sound. Their customer service is usually top-notch though, even if the wait time for non-US owners can be excruciatingly long. They take the time and listen to your opinions and feedback, unlike Apple who'd just give you a "you're holding it wrong" type of excuse.


Edited by kurochin - 10/21/13 at 5:58am
post #294 of 5398
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 


 

 

I'm very happy with my new LCD-2, When I have it on my head I really don't want any other headphoen, which is something I've never felt since entering this hobby. 

 

+1

post #295 of 5398
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

I'd say that the LCD-3s are about 25% better than the LCD-2s (give or take depending on your upstream rig). I would not say that the Cavalli amps were "best" to drive them...the LF I owned was easily bested by the GS-X /  GS-X MK2. 

+1 the LAu as well.
post #296 of 5398
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In Melbourne, we were lucky enough to have Australian AV show last weekend. Impression so far could be found here:

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/57062-australian-av-audio-show-2013-reports-and-reflections/

 

Sounds like you had a great time there. A lot of love for TAD Labs in that thread, and I can understand why. Their setups/rooms are exquisite.

I often wonder what TAD could bring to the scene if they ever decided to make headphones. Vapor-deposited beryllium drivers? No idea what those even do, but they sure sound trick!!

post #297 of 5398
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Originally Posted by kurochin View Post
 

 

To my ears, all LCDs (or at least all samples I've owned or auditioned) sound veiled to a certain extent, even the revised unveiled ones. No idea if it's QC or part of their house sound. Their customer service is usually top-notch though, even if the wait time for non-US owners can be excruciatingly long. They take the time and listen to your opinions and feedback, unlike Apple who'd just give you a "you're holding it wrong" type of excuse.


I think what you're hearing is the Audeze house sound. To me, the sound is lush, but extremely detailed. "Veiled" is one of those terms that gets thrown around way too much, and seems to have lost its meaning.  I like the scale below instead of using terms like veiled or thin.

 

Lush (complex, intimate, damped)<---------------------->Airy (etched, delicate)

post #298 of 5398

My LCD2s are anything but veiled. 

post #299 of 5398
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My LCD2s are anything but veiled. 

Mine never sounded veiled either. LCD-2 are exceptional headphones. My incoming HE-500 have a lot to live up to.
post #300 of 5398
Ill be happy if the lcd-x has the midbass of the lcd-2 and its more neutral kinda sound in the mids. The lcd-3 are better but also creamier sounding than the lcd-2.
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