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post #2716 of 5040

hey guys, random question. i have a burson audio conductor powering my lcd-x's and am looking for an after market cable. i was looking at the toxic cables and couldnt decide between the silver or copper. i was leaning toward copper since i heard silver can sound a bit cold. im mainly looking for something that isnt as bulky as the standard cable and doesnt break the bank. thanks!

post #2717 of 5040
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If you like the HE6 and HD800, I think you'd like the LCD-X a lot more than the LCD-2/3.

 

Those are the top dogs in my collection right now, so naturally I'm keen to try out the X (not to mention my newly acquired Taurus MKII should be magic with them). Should have chances to audition them soonish.

post #2718 of 5040
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hey guys, random question. i have a burson audio conductor powering my lcd-x's and am looking for an after market cable. i was looking at the toxic cables and couldnt decide between the silver or copper. i was leaning toward copper since i heard silver can sound a bit cold. im mainly looking for something that isnt as bulky as the standard cable and doesnt break the bank. thanks!

Silver, definitely.

post #2719 of 5040
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Silver, definitely.

 

 

Thanks for the input!

post #2720 of 5040
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Originally Posted by megawhacko View Post
 

hey guys, random question. i have a burson audio conductor powering my lcd-x's and am looking for an after market cable. i was looking at the toxic cables and couldnt decide between the silver or copper. i was leaning toward copper since i heard silver can sound a bit cold. im mainly looking for something that isnt as bulky as the standard cable and doesnt break the bank. thanks!

 

 

Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

Silver, definitely.

+1 on Silver. I have Silver Widow on my HD800 and like it a lot! I do not hear any harshness.  While I am sure there are some that would disagree with this pairing for HD800, I am willing to bet my salary that a majority here would love that cable on LCD-X.

post #2721 of 5040
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If you like the HE6 and HD800, I think you'd like the LCD-X a lot more than the LCD-2/3.

I hear that Barry. I am actually thinking of LCD-X as a way to get some of that mid/lower smoothness, to complement the HPs I already have. I don't think I will ever become Audeze 'convert' but I do appreciate their strong suits and figured they may grow on me. From what I have read, the X does look like it would hit the spot. Now I just need to increase my cash flow. I have bought quite a bit of gear last year and need to think more of things like my daughter's college fund. 


Edited by Cante Ista - 1/23/14 at 3:31am
post #2722 of 5040
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got my pair in today...had a bit of a scare cause all I had available was my iPhone....note to self- LCD-X needs an amp!

 

Now that I have them fired up on the Meier gear I'm getting more of what I expected. But wow, did they ever lack involvement an sound thin for a minute there. 

 

Early impressions are that they are less forgiving with average-to-poor recordings than the LCD-2s. Can't tell any increase in weight over the 2s. Still love these ear pads. 

 



Would love some impressions as to how they sound with the Jazz I see in your signature (if you still have it), as that is my current amp of choice.

 

 

Absolutely I still have it...dont' really NEED it, but it's too good of an amp to sell. 

 

I just spent the last six hours with the Jazz/X pairing and, in my opinion, it sounds REALLY close to the Classic. The crossfeed circuit on the Classic is a bit more robust, so the the presentation is just a TOUCH different, but otherwise both amps are beautifully neutral. I mainly upgraded to the Classic to make sure I had enough juice in case I ever went with tougher to drive headphones, but it's not much of a concern with the X. The Classic gives you a few more features (Jan's crossfeed is a must have for me), but sonically they are basically indistinguishable, IMO. 

 

But yeah, just to reiterate my point from a few posts back, even though these phones are easier to drive, they DO need an amp if you want them to show off what they're capable of. This will be the extra justification I have been waiting for to pick up one of Jan's portables next. I have no doubt something like the 2Stepdance will do a great job here. But the iPhone? Ehhh, not so much. 

 

I was listening to my Eagles tracks about an hour ago and it's astonishing how the high hat cymbal sounds. The only other time I've heard that degree of authenticity and realism was on my big Magnepan 3.6s and the ribbon tweeter. That and the bass have been the most impressive aspects for me thus far, just after about 8 hrs listening since yesterday. Im not much of a Diana Krall fan, but I use that as a reference disc mainly because EVERY audio shop has used her stuff and it's music I'm very familiar with. The low end on Gentle Rain was astonishing to me. Full of body, super clean and crisp...very impressive. 

 

Just beware, if you're the sort of person who doesn't like transparency to the degree that poor recordings become exposed for what they are, you may want to think twice about these. Im the exact opposite, and this is something I've always love about Maggies - the uber transparency doesnt' exactly sugar coat poor recordings, but well recorded tracks will just blow your mind. 

 

Lastly, even though I don't know much about it, I LOVE EDM/club type music. These headphones were made for someone like Deadmau5...his stuff has always been very well produced and every track of his that I have played so far just allows these phones to strut their stuff from top to bottom. I've always liked my T1s for this genre, but the Xs raise the stakes considerably. 

 

They remind me of how I felt when I first got HD channels on my cable box a decade ago...I remember being in awe of how much detail I could see, not just in the forefront but deep into the image and well into the background. I recall watching a NASCAR race on HDNet and being amazed at how much detail I could see in the faces of the fans in the stands. I could see their expressions, whether they were holding a drink or eating a snack, you name it. That's sort of how I feel over the past 24 hrs...I can pick apart aspects of the music that I want to focus on and take in all the small details (like the high hat) that have been put to tape. Pretty cool! 

 

Right now I'm listening to the Civil Wars self-titled release from last year...just can't get over the low end and the vocals. 

 

EDIT: Patty Griffin's "Let Him Fly"...holy bejeezus!


Edited by Focker - 1/23/14 at 4:00am
post #2723 of 5040

OK I have been resisting this thread for so long now. But I can no longer do so.

 

Not long ago I had a horrendous accident with my Beyer T1s. Or rather a friend who was listening to my gear while I was out of the room did. He happens to be an enormous guy and also happened to sit on my headphones when he left them on my chair. I've managed to bend them back into pretty good shape, but the adjustment is permanently destroyed as far as I can tell and is now totally loose.

 

Put succinctly, It annoys the utter *(&(*^% out of me. They don't quite sit on my head properly any more and having to adjust them now every time I put them on my head and hope they don't slip (which they inevitably do) makes me want to cry real tears. 

 

After finding out how much a new headband will cost, and also having to send it into the Beyerdynamic service center to do it (After them having my headphones for three months last time just to replace a cable) I feel it's time to move on. I have been drooling over the LCD-X now for a little while. I'm sure you all know where this is going.

 

My problem is twofold, the only place I can get them from in Australia doesn't allow returns and I have never heard these cans and the shop is 1200 KMs away. Secondly I have a SPL Phonitor for an amp and I am unsure if it would be a great match for these headphones. In fact I am pretty sure it wouldn't just looking at the numbers. But weirder things have happened.

 

Has anyone heard both the T1 and the LCD-X? Will I lose any of the T1 sparkle and clarity with the LCD-X?

 

I have heard conflicting statements here and in other places on this very issue, so if anyone who owns both or has heard both I would highly appreciate some more info. Also with the amp problem too.  

 

I listen to just about every genre of music under the sun, but my favourites right now would be prog rock, metal and classical. 

 

Cheers in advance 

post #2724 of 5040

Those questions have all been addressed in this thread as well as possible.  Read the thread and then decide if you want to try them or not.

post #2725 of 5040

The T1 has a bit more pronounced high end sparkle and a bit of a peak at around 8k which can add excitement to the singers voice and the hotter instruments are brought forward.  The X is much flatter and has more clean extension top and bottom.  I say clean because there is no sibilance or harshness in the upper registers that the T1 has on some tracks.  I have noticed now after 100 hours burn in using white, pink, and brown noise at a considerable volume that they have opened up even more and are smoother and have more sizzle and bass punch.  Very buttery smooth now from top to bottom.  They beat the T1 by a pretty large margin IMHO.  You will not be dissappointed pulling that trigger.

post #2726 of 5040
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The T1 has a bit more pronounced high end sparkle and a bit of a peak at around 8k which can add excitement to the singers voice and the hotter instruments are brought forward.  The X is much flatter and has more clean extension top and bottom.  I say clean because there is no sibilance or harshness in the upper registers that the T1 has on some tracks.  I have noticed now after 100 hours burn in using white, pink, and brown noise at a considerable volume that they have opened up even more and are smoother and have more sizzle and bass punch.  Very buttery smooth now from top to bottom.  They beat the T1 by a pretty large margin IMHO.  You will not be dissappointed pulling that trigger.

Hmm thank you. 

 

That was kinda what I was hoping not to hear hehe. At least for my wallet's sake. I can't believe I am actually thinking about catching a plane to Melbourne to audition them.

post #2727 of 5040
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

 

Absolutely I still have it...dont' really NEED it, but it's too good of an amp to sell. 

 

I just spent the last six hours with the Jazz/X pairing and, in my opinion, it sounds REALLY close to the Classic....[

 



Awesome thank you for the insight! I wasn't too sure how the Jazz would fair with a planar headphone. I myself have electro stat. speakers in my living room so it actually sounds like our sonic "tastes" might align a little. I am also not that surprised to hear that the Classic is so close to the Jazz, the Jazz is pretty much colorless to me, the proverbial "straight wire with gain".
post #2728 of 5040
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OK I have been resisting this thread for so long now. But I can no longer do so.

Not long ago I had a horrendous accident with my Beyer T1s. Or rather a friend who was listening to my gear while I was out of the room did. He happens to be an enormous guy and also happened to sit on my headphones when he left them on my chair. I've managed to bend them back into pretty good shape, but the adjustment is permanently destroyed as far as I can tell and is now totally loose.

Put succinctly, It annoys the utter *(&(*^% out of me. They don't quite sit on my head properly any more and having to adjust them now every time I put them on my head and hope they don't slip (which they inevitably do) makes me want to cry real tears. 

After finding out how much a new headband will cost, and also having to send it into the Beyerdynamic service center to do it (After them having my headphones for three months last time just to replace a cable) I feel it's time to move on. I have been drooling over the LCD-X now for a little while. I'm sure you all know where this is going.

My problem is twofold, the only place I can get them from in Australia doesn't allow returns and I have never heard these cans and the shop is 1200 KMs away. Secondly I have a SPL Phonitor for an amp and I am unsure if it would be a great match for these headphones. In fact I am pretty sure it wouldn't just looking at the numbers. But weirder things have happened.

Has anyone heard both the T1 and the LCD-X? Will I lose any of the T1 sparkle and clarity with the LCD-X?

I have heard conflicting statements here and in other places on this very issue, so if anyone who owns both or has heard both I would highly appreciate some more info. Also with the amp problem too.  

I listen to just about every genre of music under the sun, but my favourites right now would be prog rock, metal and classical. 

Cheers in advance 

Thats happened to me twice with T1, beyerdynamic has always been great with service, sometimes slow because the headband takes time to order or whatever other parts are needed, but audeze and beyerdynamic both have some of the best support ive seen from any company
post #2729 of 5040

Audez'e has lightning quick service here in the U.S.A.

 

I have very little doubt the turn around time for a headband replacement will be like 24 hours upon receipt of your phone; it might even be the same day, and they'll ship it back to you in 2 days flat with a cookie and a customer love note inside.

post #2730 of 5040

Can somebody tell me if the Musical Fidelity M1HPAP pairs well with the LCD-X?

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