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post #2161 of 8668
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Originally Posted by Gowry View Post
 

Yeah, yeah! I went ahead and got the EF-6, too. Since you have both the burson and the EF-6 I'm trusting you on this. I really wish the build quality of the EF-6 were better. I look at the pictures of the Burson and hear their story on their design philosophy and go "perfection!", then I look at the EF-6's innards and go "mmmm...how long's the warranty on this?" :p However, the reviews all state a natural, effortless presentation.

 

Thank you for sharing your experiences, figaro!

 

I feel the same way, the Burson looks fantastic, if you had told me they were a great match like the EF-5/6 were I would probably jump right on it, but the EF-6 looks really hideous to me in terms of design, compared to the Burson and some of the other high-end units, like the Dark Star & Taboo for example. It just looks like it was ripped out of a car's dashboard from the 1970's. I'm not all about looks but for $1700 the thing should at least look nice on my desktop.


Edited by goldendarko - 12/14/13 at 7:56pm
post #2162 of 8668
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Originally Posted by dukeskd View Post
 


I definitely do not want you to freak out! The LCD-X are indeed excellent but they do have less sub-bass presence than what the LCD-3 offers. The only other can that offers similar sub-bass and impact is the Fostex TH900. From my experience, quality sub-bass is the secret ingredient that allows you to rock out with headphones.

 

For pop, the LCD-X is great and very detailed. It will also be very interesting to read your comparison on the HE500 vs LCD-X.

 

You forgot the HE-6.

 

It has more sub-bass and overall definition than the LCD-X, from what I could gather in my listening sessions of yesterday and this morning. That's my only little "disappointment" about the sound of the LCD-X, honestly.

 

The X has kind of a thick and kinda loose bass but it doesn't extent really low compared to the 6s. Bass is not where the show is on the X, IMO.

That's my first take on the "Audeze sound" and I always read how these cans had the best bass in the universe. The X certainly fall short of the 6s in that area. YMMV.

 

This was on the EF-6.

 

This is not my early impressions, just a reminder that there's a 3rd player in the game.

I need more time with the Ciunas DAC. I didn't really expect the SA-2 and Chord QuteHD to be really good partners of the thick and darkish LCD-X (my setup was built around the Hifiman sound and I honestly think that, for this particular reason, it is not optimal nor fair for the Audeze). My anticipation was correct, they are too thick and smoky on this setup.

With the Ciunas, however, they really rock! While it is not bright by any mean, the JKenny DAC is more extended and less thick in the bass/mid, which is a much better match for the LCD-X that really don't need emphasis here. One could say it's a very linear DAC but not of the boring/thin kind; it has excellent tonal reproduction with full mids, pitch black background and great dynamics.

Adding the Ciunas kinda lift a veil that was present with the Chord and Audio-gd. Good stuff.

post #2163 of 8668
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Originally Posted by goldendarko View Post
 

 

I feel the same way, the Burson looks fantastic, if you had told me they were a great match like the EF-5/6 were I would probably jump right on it, but the EF-6 looks really hideous to me in terms of design, compared to the Burson and some of the other high-end units, like the Dark Star & Taboo for example. It just looks like it was ripped out of a car's dashboard from the 1970's. I'm not all about looks but for $1700 the thing should at least look nice on my desktop.

it looks both formidable and beastly.......

post #2164 of 8668
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

 

You forgot the HE-6.

 

It has more sub-bass and overall definition than the LCD-X, from what I could gather in my listening sessions of yesterday and this morning. That's my only little "disappointment" about the sound of the LCD-X, honestly.

 

The X has kind of a thick and kinda loose bass but it doesn't extent really low compared to the 6s. Bass is not where the show is on the X, IMO.

That's my first take on the "Audeze sound" and I always read how these cans had the best bass in the universe. The X certainly fall short of the 6s in that area. YMMV.

 

This was on the EF-6.

 

This is not my early impressions, just a reminder that there's a 3rd player in the game.

I need more time with the Ciunas DAC. I didn't really expect the SA-2 and Chord QuteHD to be really good partners of the thick and darkish LCD-X (my setup was built around the Hifiman sound and I honestly think that, for this particular reason, it is not optimal nor fair for the Audeze). My anticipation was correct, they are too thick and smoky on this setup.

With the Ciunas, however, they really rock! While it is not bright by any mean, the JKenny DAC is more extended and less thick in the bass/mid, which is a much better match for the LCD-X that really don't need emphasis here. One could say it's a very linear DAC but not of the boring/thin kind; it has excellent tonal reproduction with full mids, pitch black background and great dynamics.

Adding the Ciunas kinda lift a veil that was present with the Chord and Audio-gd. Good stuff.

 

While I hold the HE-6s in high regard, they certainly don't have more sub-bass than the LCD-X (or LCD-3). The FR graphs kinda support that. I'd give them some time for burn in as well. But on my GS-X MK2, the LCD-X are the best headphones I've heard this side of the SR-009s.
post #2165 of 8668
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Originally Posted by Gowry View Post
 

Awwww! Don't go sayin that. I actually read some reviews that said they thought the X had better bass. It took a lot of reading to decide which to get...bad part is I wont' know if I made the right choice since I'll probably not hear both side by side.

 

I know the bass is supposed to be leaner on the X. I'm just hoping it's just as detailed. I'm listening to HE-500's now, but probably listen more to my Pro900's since I'm at work most of the time. I thought the Pro900 were gonna give me a concussion when I first got them :p I added a bit of cotton to them (Kees sudo-mod..I didn't cover any of the ports)

 

I bought my LCD-X from Moon Audio. If they seem bass-light, maybe they'll let me upgrade. Don't worry I'm not freaking out :p

Bass is tight in these monsters...don't ruminate...This is the new Audeze flagship even if the guys at Audeze don't want to admit it.  Just be happy that it is $300 cheaper and you are getting a better balanced headphone.  Wait until you get them!!!

post #2166 of 8668
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Originally Posted by Gowry View Post
 

Yeah, yeah! I went ahead and got the EF-6, too. Since you have both the burson and the EF-6 I'm trusting you on this. I really wish the build quality of the EF-6 were better. I look at the pictures of the Burson and hear their story on their design philosophy and go "perfection!", then I look at the EF-6's innards and go "mmmm...how long's the warranty on this?" :p However, the reviews all state a natural, effortless presentation.

 

Thank you for sharing your experiences, figaro!

Yeah...the Hifiman amps are ugly as sin and the innards don't say quality a la Burson...but, boy, does it sound amazing with the LCD-X...Effortless is the right word.


Edited by figaro69 - 12/14/13 at 9:05pm
post #2167 of 8668
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

 

Totally agree.  The HE-6 has nice, tight bass (it's a rather fatiguing headphone, though, with regard to the treble), but I would say that the LCD-X is better in that department.  Additionally, You can listen to the LCD-Xs for 10 straight hours without experiencing listening fatigue.  I continue to assert that these are the best headphones I've ever heard, Period (I haven't head the SR009s, though).

post #2168 of 8668
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

Totally agree.  The HE-6 has nice, tight bass (it's a rather fatiguing headphone, though, with regard to the treble), but I would say that the LCD-X is better in that department.  Additionally, You can listen to the LCD-Xs for 10 straight hours without experiencing listening fatigue.  I continue to assert that these are the best headphones I've ever heard, Period (I haven't head the SR009s, though).

Thing about the LCD-X is that it has this beautiful treble without being bright/harsh (think HD800/ SR009). That is a huge plus in my book.

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

 

+1. HE-6 has no where near the sub-bass presence of either LCD-3 or TH-900, they are quite frankly miles ahead. The LCD-X has a bit more but I believe the impact of the HE-6 is more refined.

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The LCD-X manages to be a darker-sounding headphone and, yet, it still has superb treble (i.e., extended, yet never harsh).  This is quite a feat for Audeze to have accomplished, since most of the time the end result with a darker sounding headphone is veil (e.g., HD650) or rolled off treble (e.g., LCD-2).  To managed both at the same time is simply a coup, which is one of the reasons I consider them to be the best in my collection.

post #2170 of 8668
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

The LCD-X manages to be a darker-sounding headphone and, yet, it still has superb treble (i.e., extended, yet never harsh).  This is quite a feat for Audeze to have accomplished, since most of the time the end result with a darker sounding headphone is veil (e.g., HD650) or rolled off treble (e.g., LCD-2).  To managed both at the same time is simply a coup, which is one of the reasons I consider them to be the best in my collection.


Yes and the exact same thoughts were going through my mind when I listen to them. Hated the LCD-2 and the HD650.

post #2171 of 8668

Hey Figaro,

How about your comparison of properly-amped LCD-X and Ed-12?

 

Thx,

RCBinTN

post #2172 of 8668
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Originally Posted by RCBinTN View Post
 

Hey Figaro,

How about your comparison of properly-amped LCD-X and Ed-12?

 

Thx,

RCBinTN

 

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Originally Posted by dukeskd View Post
 


 

Hah! No contest.  The edition 12 is a highly frustrating pair of cans.  Some things sound great with it, others sound weak and anemic (i.e., scrawny).  The LCD-X handles everything with aplomb.  Moreover, the Edition 12s are extremely picky regarding amplification (e.g., for instance, they sound awful being driven by the Grace 902b and Burson Soloist, but will sound fine using the Taboo); such is not the case with the LCD-X.  I wouldn't recommend the Ed. 12, generally speaking (but boy, they do feel feathery-light on top of your head), but I'll recommend the LCD-Xs till kingdom come.  So, to the public in general, simply don't bother with the Edition 12s...chamber music and opera sound good with it, but little else does...sounds brittle and weak with other music genres. Since the ED. 12 and LCD-Xs cost about the same, it is a no brainer...just get the LCD-X and be extremely happy.

post #2173 of 8668
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

 

Some things sound great with it, others sound weak and anemic (i.e., scrawny).  

 

In my case sounds like the ole Planar vs. dynamic drivers.  

post #2174 of 8668
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

In my case sounds like the ole Planar vs. dynamic drivers.

Not all dynamic drivers were created equal.  The T1s, for instance, sound anything but scrawny/anemic...probably tied for second place (with the HD800s) after the LCDX

post #2175 of 8668
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

Not all dynamic drivers were created equal.  The T1s, for instance, sound anything but scrawny/anemic...probably tied for second place (with the HD800s) after the LCDX

 

We all hear different.  If I had to pick, I'd pick a Planar over a dynamic driver more times than not.  Yes, the mids on the T1s are more to my liking compared to the HD800s.  But the HD800s do more things better IMO..  Also if I had to pick.  I'd pick the HD800s over the T1s all day.  No ties there for me.  But I'd also pick the T1's over the TH900s  - it's a tricky game.  But somebody has to do it.

 

I like Planar drivers so I'm excited about the LCD-X

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