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Cool then!

Let's give the LCD-X some EF-6 love now :D

will do when the family goes to sleep at around 10:00 EST.  I fully expect the combo to be glorious since the tonal characteristics of the Darkstar and EF-6 are very similar!

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I've used Sylvanias, GE Five Star, Siemens, Radio Technique, Mullard, Bugle boy, Mazda Cifte...you name it, I've used it.  These are 12AXT, 12AUT, 5751.




The reason I asked is that I quite like 6P15P-ER output tubes with the Audeze. It's the milspec version of MK3 stock tubes. Very transparent, quite neutral and snappy. Not sure if your version would work with these but if it does it's worth a try for what they cost.


Edited by negura - 12/11/13 at 3:24pm
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I received my lcd-x and wa7 today and have been listening for several hours. I have to say... I have been seriously blown away. The sound is incredible. I haven't been able to get rid of this silly grin on my face since I sat down and started listening. 

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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post

 

I've used Sylvanias, GE Five Star, Siemens, Radio Technique, Mullard, Bugle boy, Mazda Cifte...you name it, I've used it.  These are 12AXT, 12AUT, 5751.

 

The reason I asked is that I quite like 6P15P-ER output tubes with the Audeze. It's the milspec version of MK3 stock tubes. Very transparent, quite neutral and snappy. Not sure if your version would wotk with this but if it does it's worth a try for what it costs.

It won't, unfortunately.  Maybe I'll get the updated version of the Taboo in the future, because I love 6922 (and their variants) tubes!

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I received my lcd-x and wa7 today and have been listening for several hours. I have to say... I have been seriously blown away. The sound is incredible. I haven't been able to get rid of this silly grin on my face since I sat down and started listening.

hehehe!....so I wasn't exaggerating when I said that these are virtually perfect headphones, was I?

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It won't, unfortunately.  Maybe I'll get the updated version of the Taboo in the future, because I love 6922 (and their variants) tubes!

 

Yup I think I get the picture. With the combination of tubes you can use you probably get a more classic tubey sound, whereas the MK3 is surprisingly transistory in tonal balance, transients, treble (no harshness though) and dynamics in the combination of 6p15p-ER and 6922 Amperex and something like the USAF596 rectifier. It does retain the superior soundstage, details and micro-details usually associated with tubes. What it does not have is the ultimate driver control of great SS.

 

The guy really did tune the MK3 amp to sound well with the warmer Audeze orthos. It can definitely be taken one or two steps beyond what stock does with NOS tubes.


Edited by negura - 12/11/13 at 3:33pm
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^ I thought the 6p15p are outputs for the taboo 2 as well, i.e. Steve essentially only changed the driver tube (as far a tubes go - he changed other aspects too of course)?! I'll have to check mine when I get home...
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Originally Posted by megawhacko View Post
 

I received my lcd-x and wa7 today and have been listening for several hours. I have to say... I have been seriously blown away. The sound is incredible. I haven't been able to get rid of this silly grin on my face since I sat down and started listening. 

I know the sentiment. I sit there with the LCD-X plugged into my Oppo 105, hours roll by. At one point, listening to some Greg Brown, I called my wife over and said "Just listen to anything on these..."  She listened for a while, then said they are 'amazing', but she just couldn't get used to the weight of them on her head. Tried several positions, no luck.  SO.......truly not a design for everyone. I find them comfortable enough.

 

The Oppo 105 actually works so well with them (headphone out), I am wondering if I really need to pursue another amp to check out? What is that saying....."If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"  Oh yeah, wait, this is Head-Fi! :atsmile:

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Originally Posted by negura View Post
 

 

Yup I think I get the picture. With the combination of tubes you can use you probably get a more classic tubey sound, whereas the MK3 is surprisingly transistory in tonal balance, transients, treble (no harshness though) and dynamics in the combination of 6p15p-ER and 6922 Amperex and something like the USAF596 rectifier. It does retain the superior soundstage, details and micro-details usually associated with tubes. What it does not have is the ultimate driver control of great SS.

 

The guy really did tune the MK3 amp to sound well with the warmer Audeze orthos. It can definitely be taken one or two steps beyond what stock does with NOS tubes.

The taboo sounds like a hybrid amp, doesn't it?  That's what I like about it...very versatile.  I still have some tube rolling to do in the future, so we'll see if I can salvage the old taboo when it comes to driving the LCD-Xs.  Maybe my Phlips rectifier is the culprit...I have RCA, Bugle Boy, and Mullard rectifiers to play with, which I haven't done yet...It's gonna take some time to get the right combination, although I will likely always return to the Darkstar for the magic.

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^ I thought the 6p15p are outputs for the taboo 2 as well, i.e. Steve essentially only changed the driver tube (as far a tubes go - he changed other aspects too of course)?! I'll have to check mine when I get home...

 

Perhaps. I am not very familiar with the MK2. Out of all the output tubes I had and that included some really good NOS like early Philips/Miniwatt, Amperex etc I kept going back to the 6p15p-ER for Audeze. Better transparency, transients and even more neutral. They are also a notch better sounding I think than the stock EV.

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I know the sentiment. I sit there with the LCD-X plugged into my Oppo 105, hours roll by. At one point, listening to some Greg Brown, I called my wife over and said "Just listen to anything on these..."  She listened for a while, then said they are 'amazing', but she just couldn't get used to the weight of them on her head. Tried several positions, no luck.  SO.......truly not a design for everyone. I find them comfortable enough.

 

The Oppo 105 actually works so well with them (headphone out), I am wondering if I really need to pursue another amp to check out? What is that saying....."If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"  Oh yeah, wait, this is Head-Fi! :atsmile:

When driven by THE RIGHT amp YOU WILL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE!!!  No question about it.

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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

The taboo sounds like a hybrid amp, doesn't it?  That's what I like about it...very versatile.  I still have some tube rolling to do in the future, so we'll see if I can salvage the old taboo when it comes to driving the LCD-Xs.  Maybe my Phlips rectifier is the culprit...I have RCA, Bugle Boy, and Mullard rectifiers to play with, which I haven't done yet...It's gonna take some time to get the right combination, although I will likely always return to the Darkstar for the magic.

 

Yes, that's actually a good way to describe it in the way I had it tuned. It's much less tubey sounding than one would expect for it being a tube amp. I also have a SET tube amplifier for my speakers that does sound old school tubey and the Taboo MK3 was closer to my solid states than to that. Obviously swap the tubes to warmer ones and it tilts the other way.


Edited by negura - 12/11/13 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by negura View Post
 

 

Perhaps. I am not very familiar with the MK2. Out of all the output tubes I had and that included some really good NOS like early Philips/Miniwatt, Amperex etc I kept going back to the 6p15p-ER for Audeze. Better transparency, transients and even more neutral. They are also a notch better sounding I think than the stock EV.

The more neutral the amp, the better it will be with the LCD-Xs...at least that's what I'm thinking right now.  That's why a tubey-sounding or an excessively bright-sounding amp would only serve thrown the whole thing out of balance.  They were designed to be monitors...although that Audeze warmth that is so inviting and cuddly is still somehow in there to lure you like the siren's song. WHAT A PRODUCT!!!  I wonder where Mr. David Mahler would rank these babies in his famous "Battle of the Flagships" review of top-of-the-line headphones!

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I look forward to hear them eventually. They way they are described to sound, they're probably closer to my SR007 MKIs, which I much prefer and consider superior in transparency to the LCD-3s. If the LCD-X are towards that I would also really like them.
Edited by negura - 12/11/13 at 4:09pm
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