Could be your setup...I've never been a big fan of orthos/tubes. The current that orthos need just can't be fully supplied by tube amps (again IME). But on my GS-X MK2/BDA-2 rig, both the HD800s and LCD-Xs are top notch cans for detail retrieval. The HD800s give outstanding detail in the treble / imaging, while the LCD-X offers outstanding bass/mids detail and instrumental location.
And with regards to poorly recorded music, I've got some Beats 2013 here for that.
Couldn't agree more, the GS-X mk2 made the HD800s and all of the audeze's sound the best I've ever heard them. Would be my choice if I could ever bring myself to spend that much or wait that long for one.