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post #1741 of 4682

I've been listening to the X, and compared to the LCD-3, there is a lot less sub-bass presence but equal amounts of mid-bass. The bass also isn't as authoritative because of the much wider imaging that the X offers and the increase in treble which distracts from other parts of the frequency spectrum.

It is very interesting to see what Audeze did with this new line of headphones as they were certainly targeting the people that complained about the LCD-2/3 sound-stage and treble short-comings (I am part of that group of people:o).

So far the X has astounded me with the micro detail extraction and the much wider imaging. It also shifts emphasis from the mid-range to the treble when comparing to the LCD-2 and 3s, which in combination with the wider horizontal sound stage, it loses that old intimacy factor the older siblings offered.

post #1742 of 4682
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Originally Posted by dukeskd View Post
 

I've been listening to the X, and compared to the LCD-3, there is a lot less sub-bass presence but equal amounts of mid-bass. The bass also isn't as authoritative because of the much wider imaging that the X offers and the increase in treble which distracts from other parts of the frequency spectrum.

It is very interesting to see what Audeze did with this new line of headphones as they were certainly targeting the people that complained about the LCD-2/3 sound-stage and treble short-comings (I am part of that group of people:o).

So far the X has astounded me with the micro detail extraction and the much wider imaging. It also shifts emphasis from the mid-range to the treble when comparing to the LCD-2 and 3s, which in combination with the wider horizontal sound stage, it loses that old intimacy factor the older siblings offered.

 

Once things settle it (assuming you own the LCD-X) it would be interesting whether you'll still find you're more aware of the treble compared to the rest. It is probably one of the hardest thing to pull off: a completely balanced presentation of the spectrum.

 

Equally difficult to achieve, for some reason, seems to be to get enjoyable and harmless, but very detailed and sparkly treble. For example imo the HD800s and HE-6s cannot do that very well unless they are modded/heavily tuned for in the downstream. The previous Audeze have the opposite problem, being more or less rolled-off. 


Edited by negura - 12/1/13 at 9:45am
post #1743 of 4682

so you don't think the bass hits harder on the X?

 

i thought the bass was more on the X and punchier but the sub-bass was less (which i would prefer cause the LCD-3 subbass is really bloaty and too weak)

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Once things settle it (assuming you own the LCD-X) it would be interesting whether you'll still find you're more aware of the treble compared to the rest. It is probably one of the hardest thing to pull off: a completely balanced presentation of the spectrum.

 

Equally difficult to achieve, for some reason, seems to be to get enjoyable and harmless, but very detailed and sparkly treble. For example imo the HD800s and HE-6s cannot do that very well unless they are modded/heavily tuned for in the downstream. The previous Audeze have the opposite problem, being more or less rolled-off. 

Yes I do own them, they arrived a few days ago. The treble is definitely more present than the LCD-2/3. Actually a lot more present IMO. It does not have the hyper-extended treble the HE-6 evokes, but a rather very nice presentation of treble that I wouldn't classify as too harsh. It would seem that the overall sound signature of the X is less dampened than the LCD-3.

 

I am hearing tons of micro details in hi-res recordings that I have listened to countless times, which I figure is from the increase in treble. There is more air between instruments and vocals have a greater stage in the vertical view when compared to the LCD-3. That was my primary problem with the LCD-3 and it seems the LCD-X fixes that however, it does not have that bass that I love from the 3.

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so you don't think the bass hits harder on the X?

 

i thought the bass was more on the X and punchier but the sub-bass was less (which i would prefer cause the LCD-3 subbass is really bloaty and too weak)


My LCD-3 pair has bass that hits a lot harder with greater finesse than the X. The mid-bass section is what I need to examine closer between the two. However, I wouldn't say the sub-bass of the LCD-3 is bloaty, my pair has very great control of the sub bass, to me it is the best I've heard from a headphone. Perhaps variance of drivers is the issue between our pairs, DG?

post #1745 of 4682

i think so...

 

i know my pair isn't veiled, but it does sound quite warm and the bass in general seems colored and too light for my tastes, like it doesn't have the slam of the lcd-2 or the punch, theres a bit more sub-bass instead, but its not enough for me to really enjoy it, it feels like it lacks body sometimes, its weird, it feels bloomy and smoothed out rather than accurate and deep.

 

i mean overall the bass sounds great, just seems light and "neutral" rather than punchy and strong like an audeze should be. and i thought the LCD-X kinda brought that back. cause the LCD-2 had more attack and more punch and i liked that.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 12/1/13 at 10:11am
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I love the LYR with the 2.2 ... just bear in mind that you need to get the right tube ... with the right tube (at least in my system) it beats the Mjolnir (to my preference), but this would be an unpopular opinion - and even then it is close ... the Mjolnir is safer ... but I'm happy where I am for the time being.

What is the right tube for Lyr for LCD-2.2 for you?

post #1747 of 4682
Dunstep Girl
That is what confused me i havnet listen to any Audeze headphone just yet, but im interest in LCD3 or LCD X.
I want the most natural or life Like that is true to the instrument, maybe thats non of Them!!
post #1748 of 4682
Of all the audeze, that's the -X.
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Barry,

Just curious: if no music is playing and you turn up the gain on the Valli, how quiet is the amp with the LCD-Xs?

Thanks!

Comparing to the Mjolnir, which is dead black, the Vali has a higher noise floor, but nothing I find objectionable. The Vali signature really reminds me of fine vintage analog equipment-- very sweet sound with a touch of background noise. Testing with some classical music with pauses, the Vali sounds very good and nothing about the noise floor is intrusive, unless you knock the amp and then it rings for a couple minutes.
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Dunstep Girl
That is what confused me i havnet listen to any Audeze headphone just yet, but im interest in LCD3 or LCD X.
I want the most natural or life Like that is true to the instrument, maybe thats non of Them!!

 

the lcd-3 has a warmer fuller decay and timbre, it works better sometimes, sometimes it doesn't. 

 

can't go wrong with either one. just that the LCD-3 is more warm and smooth sounding. think of hd 650 = lcd-3 and hd 600 = lcd-x.

post #1751 of 4682

well i think my audeze lcd-3's right driver is dead or theres some issue with the connector (which there doesn't appear to be).

 

anyone know how good audeze is with warranties with used headphones/no receipt? 

post #1752 of 4682
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What is the right tube for Lyr for LCD-2.2 for you?

 

For me, and at reasonable price (ie. there are probably "better" tubes, but I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars), it is the Amperex Orange Globes - the early versions with the "O Getter".

 

Of course, this is not just a matter of taste, it is also a matter of matching the rest of your system - my DAC is a warm (NOS) sounding component, as is the Lyr and the LCD 2's - the Orange Globes "reign this in" a little more than, say, the Bugle Boys without losing the warmth completely.

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

well i think my audeze lcd-3's right driver is dead or theres some issue with the connector (which there doesn't appear to be).

anyone know how good audeze is with warranties with used headphones/no receipt? 

They fixed my secondhand LCD-3 in about a week,
I did have to send the purchase receipt with the headphones and RMA form.

The original purchaser didn't have the receipt either, so he contacted the retailer and they emailed it to him.
post #1754 of 4682

great...

post #1755 of 4682

Hi everyone, it's been a while since I stalk this thread. I'm thinking about buying LCD-X but due to my recent experience with the LCD-X, I've been thinking otherwise. Yesterday I tried it with AloAudio's The Studio Six, and I didn't like it all even when they told me how pricey it is. Before, I tried LCD-2 with WooAudio's WA7 and I loved it, the sound was heavenly in my ears. I wonder how it'd be for LCD-X with WA7. I'm listening mostly to Electronic music (Trance & House) & Classic music. Currently I have DT770, HD600 & Takstar TS-671---and somehow I'm craving for more. For amps, I'm completely a noob and I've only have Fiio E07k. I'd like to get suggestions from head-fi's senior :wink:

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