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Well, X marked the spot on my wallet, as I took the plunge :D

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

The he-6 imo still has the best bass. Some find it lacking in omph or bloom but its strong enough and the bass is very tight very tactile and very deep and controlled. It does it better than any headphone ive heard. The lcd x and lcd-2 come close. Personally the lcd-3 has a more colored more smoother bass response. Its not as accurate though but more organic sounding

That Forte is a sweet amp. Used to have one for my speaker system. Not the last word in bass slam, but very tube like qualities, lovely midrange. Can't imagine any transducer ever sounding harsh with that amp. 

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If anyone cares, I posted some unboxing pics here: https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A5532ODWX4T1U

 

I got them a little while ago, and I haven't had a chance to listen.  I'll post a mini-review some time this week. :)

Ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh.................you had to go and do that...........:D

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I just checked your equipment inventory - impressive!  I am also an Ed-8 owner and would be interested in your comparison of the Ed-12 vs. the Ed-8.  Thanks.

Tonight is the night...check the Edition 12 thread at around 11pm to 12am EST.

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Which would make a better pairing for the LCD-X, I'm torn between a Burson Conductor and the Schiit Mjolnir/Gungnir combo. Prices are pretty similar and what I'm looking to spend ($1500-$2000). Anyone have any advice or other recommendations for the X in my price range? Thanks!
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LCD-X in da house! :beerchug:

 

Wow! After listening only a few hours I’ve done some initial notes and findings. Lynx Hilo -> Bakoon HPA-21 -> Toxic Silver Widow -> LCD-X. Some of my first comments:

 

"Pink noise sounds like pink noise again!"

 

"My LCD-3s will not get used much!" (I have tried to EQ them lately to get some kind of decent high-mids and treble out of them)

 

"PRaT > 100%!"

 

If you like drums, to hear all rhythmic figures, tom-tom fills etc. these cans are for you! Maybe the LCD-3 bass draws the attention away from for example tom-tom fills that I haven’t noticed before.

 

One weird thing is that I suddenly came to think of how compression is applied to songs I know well.

 

Did any of you LCD-X owners out there note any burn-in effect? If I remember correctly my LCD-3s needed 40 hours or so, after that I cannot say I noticed any difference.

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If you like drums, to hear all rhythmic figures, tom-tom fills etc.

 

NICE! It sounds like I would love these cans!

 

And Moonhead -- thanks for your thoughts on HE6. 

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Originally Posted by CanDude View Post
 

LCD-X in da house! :beerchug:

 

Wow! After listening only a few hours I’ve done some initial notes and findings. Lynx Hilo -> Bakoon HPA-21 -> Toxic Silver Widow -> LCD-X. Some of my first comments:

 

"Pink noise sounds like pink noise again!"

 

"My LCD-3s will not get used much!" (I have tried to EQ them lately to get some kind of decent high-mids and treble out of them)

 

"PRaT > 100%!"

 

If you like drums, to hear all rhythmic figures, tom-tom fills etc. these cans are for you! Maybe the LCD-3 bass draws the attention away from for example tom-tom fills that I haven’t noticed before.

 

One weird thing is that I suddenly came to think of how compression is applied to songs I know well.

 

Did any of you LCD-X owners out there note any burn-in effect? If I remember correctly my LCD-3s needed 40 hours or so, after that I cannot say I noticed any difference.

Congrats on the purchase man! From what I understand LCD-X comes with a 30h burn in from the factory. However, I felt some improvements after another 25 hours.

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Originally Posted by CanDude View Post
 

LCD-X in da house! :beerchug:

 

Wow! After listening only a few hours I’ve done some initial notes and findings. Lynx Hilo -> Bakoon HPA-21 -> Toxic Silver Widow -> LCD-X. Some of my first comments:

 

"Pink noise sounds like pink noise again!"

 

"My LCD-3s will not get used much!" (I have tried to EQ them lately to get some kind of decent high-mids and treble out of them)

 

"PRaT > 100%!"

 

If you like drums, to hear all rhythmic figures, tom-tom fills etc. these cans are for you! Maybe the LCD-3 bass draws the attention away from for example tom-tom fills that I haven’t noticed before.

 

One weird thing is that I suddenly came to think of how compression is applied to songs I know well.

 

Did any of you LCD-X owners out there note any burn-in effect? If I remember correctly my LCD-3s needed 40 hours or so, after that I cannot say I noticed any difference.

If the Bakoon amp is your LCD-3 amp, then I can see why. :o I really recommend 2W into the LCD-3s to really get them going (and the Lyr won't cut it here either). But on the right amp and with the right source, the differences between the LCD-3s and LCD-X are quite a bit smaller to my ears. The LCD-X plays great out of many different amps.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/25/13 at 5:47pm
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It took my brain a couple days to burn-in, not sure about the LCD-Xs. I agree, percussion is fast and explosive on the LCD-X. Another great recording with the LCD-X is Rage Against The Machine's first album--the production is first rate and the instruments aren't processed to death. Very fun listen on the LCD-X.

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If the Bakoon amp is your LCD-3 amp, then I can see why. :o I really recommend 2W into the LCD-3s to really get them going (and the Lyr won't cut it here either). But on the right amp and with the right source, the differences between the LCD-3s and LCD-X are quite a bit smaller to my ears. The LCD-X plays great out of many different amps.

 

The Bakoon is a recommended amp for the LCD-3, though.

 

Studio SIX or impression has no value! :biggrin:

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The Bakoon is a recommended amp for the LCD-3, though.

 

Studio SIX or impression has no value! :biggrin:

Again, this is based on my experience and my LCD-3 user manual states that they recommend at least 2W. ;)

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Again, this is based on my experience and my LCD-3 user manual states that they recommend at least 2W. ;)

 

Does it hold true for a current driven amp?

How much does the Bakoon push into the LCD-3 anyway?

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Does it hold true for a current driven amp?

How much does the Bakoon push into the LCD-3 anyway?

Power = Voltage * Current 

 

No way around physics....sorry. Based on the website, looks like just 1 W.

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Power = Voltage * Current 

 

No way around physics....sorry. Based on the website, looks like just 1 W.

 

Power = Current * Impedance², too. I don't see how that's relevant to the subject here.

 

Without any knowledge on the gain, you won't go too far with the maths.

 

Also, power is not the real player here. Current delivery is. Unless you listen at crazy loud volume, you'll never go anywhere close to 1W in power need.

The thing is: powerful amps usually have the current capacity that goes with it (obviously, otherwise distortions would be very high), that's the reason why high power amplifier are always recommended. But having a high power output is not a must to get the surge current capacity the headphone needs. Look at the typical Brit amplifiers: there not that powerful in term of pure wattage (advertised); but man do they deliver in terms of current (which makes their very good PRaT performance)!

 

Power dissipation might be a reason why the Bakoon can only deliver 1W continuously. Anyway, there's really no reason for an amp to provide 1W of continuous power into a headphone (unless you want to use it as desktop speakers...).

An amp can well be designed with a 250mW maximum output but with a very beefy power supply that can provide lots of current and won't weaken during surge current. A amp can also be designed to provide 6W of continuous power but with a lesser ability to sustain during current surge (which results in high distortion level).

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