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post #1276 of 5083
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Originally Posted by SMG52 View Post
 

I have been hesitating to get into this discussion, but maybe this will be helpful.

 

 

As some of you may already be aware, I introduced an amp to other head-fiers, and people have had VERY good success with it. It's the TBI Millenia, which is an integrated power amp. When combined with a resistor box, which the engineer who designed the amp is willing to put together for your particular headphones, the sound is impeccable. The person who owns the company and is also the designer is the most helpful person I have ever come across in my 35 years or so involvement with home audio. His name is Jan Plummer. I am going to include some links about the amp that you can check out if you like.  He offers a 30 day home trial period. The amp costs $500 and the resistor box he will put together for you is $100. If you wanted to create your own resistor box, he could suggest to you what resistor values to experiment with to match the needs of your headphones. The idea is to lower the gain level of the amp so that it is a pure, black background. If you want to disregard this amp as an option for whatever reason - that's fine. But with all this talk about spending thousands on headphone amps, it would seem like saving some money and having the opportunity to try this amp out at home would be an attractive option.

 

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue67/tbi_millenia.htm

 

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=108242.0

 

http://www.tbisound.com/dsp_products_millenia.asp

 

You can read Gary in MD's  review of the Millenia if you scroll down a bit. He uses Audeze LCD3s:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/649107/speaker-amps-for-headphones/495

 

There's much more on the web about the Millenia, including a new thread on audiocircle that deals with the latest iteration of the amp, as well as how some head-fiers are now using it.

 

By the way, don't hesitate to call or email Jan Plummer with any questions. He is really into this stuff. (He picks up the phone when you call TBI).

 

best

Stew

On your recommendation, I talked to Jan.  He said it would take about a week to build a resistor box and ship it with the amp.  I'm really tempted.  It'll take about 4 weeks to get the WA7 I ordered, so this might be a better solution.  I'd really like to hear some impressions, but I doubt anyone's tried this combo yet.

 

And, in any case, I'll still need a DAC.

post #1277 of 5083
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Originally Posted by cizx View Post
 

On your recommendation, I talked to Jan.  He said it would take about a week to build a resistor box and ship it with the amp.  I'm really tempted.  It'll take about 4 weeks to get the WA7 I ordered, so this might be a better solution.  I'd really like to hear some impressions, but I doubt anyone's tried this combo yet.

 

And, in any case, I'll still need a DAC.

Cool. You may be the first to report back about this combo. I hope to have an XC in a couple weeks to demo. 

 

If interested, you can scroll down to Flysweeps' impressions of the Millenia with his HD800s if you haven't seen it:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/649107/speaker-amps-for-headphones/1005

post #1278 of 5083

I'd be interested to hear how they perform with the LCD-X. The price is very reasonable, especially if those reviews are true.

post #1279 of 5083

Am I correct in understanding that the LCD-XC is a closed version of the LCD-X? Does it have a similar sound signature except perhaps for having a smaller sound stage or the usual caveats with closed 'phones?

post #1280 of 5083

Forbes has a review of the -XC by Geoffrey Morrison here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreymorrison/2013/11/03/audeze-lcd-xc-review/

 

There aren't many comparisons, but the Forbes review of the -X, http://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreymorrison/2013/11/10/audeze-lcd-x-review/, has one.

 

As of now, I'm leaning toward the -X... I really wanted one that I could take to the library, but I can't abide the thought of paying more for something that doesn't sound as good.  I can study at home. :)

 

Edit:

Here's the comparison excerpt from the Forbes review of the -X (linked above):

 

LCD-X vs LCD-XC

Price-wise, the most direct comparison is with Audeze’s LCD-XC. They’re really for different uses, though. I’m sure most people will be curious anyway, so here you go. The more I listened to the LCD-X, the more it seemed like it had a more balanced response than the LCD-XC: A little less treble, for a flatter overall response (a good thing).

There’s more to it than the frequency response, though. The LCD-XC sounds like a really good pair of headphones. The LCD-X sounds like really goodmusic. There’s more naturalness to the audio. This is one of those near-intangibles I hate writing about, because it seems at best esoteric and at worse audiophile nonsense. But there’s something about open-back headphones, and planar magnetic open-back headphones specifically, that’s more like listening to live music than recorded sound through speakers attached to your ears. I like the XC’s, as they’re some of the best closed-back headphones I’ve heard. But given the choice I’d pick the LCD-X over them in an instant. 


Edited by cizx - 11/16/13 at 9:15pm
post #1281 of 5083

Unless one needs a closed headphones and their isolation, I'd always opt for the open headphones.

post #1282 of 5083
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Unless one needs a closed headphones and their isolation, I'd always opt for the open headphones.

Regardless of the genre of music ?
post #1283 of 5083
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Unless one needs a closed headphones and their isolation, I'd always opt for the open headphones.

+1 , and yes regardless of the genre of music.

post #1284 of 5083

Any consensus yet about whether those who have heard both would take the X over the 3 for rock, acoustic, blues.....a little jazz, but no classical? Or maybe it's a draw?

 

Thanks.

post #1285 of 5083
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Where's that review Peter....:popcorn:

post #1286 of 5083
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Originally Posted by SMG52 View Post

Any consensus yet about whether those who have heard both would take the X over the 3 for rock, acoustic, blues.....a little jazz, but no classical? Or maybe it's a draw?

Thanks.

I think 3 but i would probably prefer x for rock.
post #1287 of 5083
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Originally Posted by PuffyElvis View Post
 

You have great taste in music.  I've listened to a few of your recommendations and it's completely turned me on to some new stuff I would have never discovered otherwise.  Keep them coming!

 

+1   :o2smile:

post #1288 of 5083

+2 

 

I discovered John Martyn: Solid Air just yesterday. Brilliant!! Listening to it now. Not sure it was from this thread though. 

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+2 

 

I discovered John Martyn: Solid Air just yesterday. Brilliant!! Listening to it now. Not sure it was from this thread though. 

Great to see john martyn getting talked about here. Here is a clip from the old grey whistle test

 

post #1290 of 5083
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I think 3 but i would probably prefer x for rock.

Did you get X's yet?
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