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post #1246 of 4916

What amp are you using?

 

Also, do you have experience with other Audeze headphones?

post #1247 of 4916
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Originally Posted by buffer View Post

I have a question for owners of the LCD-X. Do any of you detect a little too much lower midrange? I like the sound of my LCD-X , but my ear seems to be picking up a slight coloration that detracts ever so slightly from ultimate clarity and adds more warmth than I'd like. My ear seems to detect a bit too much lower midrange, which is probably also responsible for the very forward vocals which I do like.

The best way I can describe the effects are to say that it emphasizes vocals a bit more over other instrumentation and it makes the drum hit sound a little overly full-bodied or ripe. I would describe it as follows:

Take your hands and clap then with both hands facing the same direction so that your fingers are in contact with each other when your two hands meet. Now try clapping your hands with one hand pointing up and the other pointing away from you (where the effect is more of the palms hitting each other. That's how I hear the drum hits. The overall sound of the LCD-X is clean, I admit, but the sound loses some of the clarity, neutrality, and impact because of the excessive lower mids. I detect this as a subtle but consistent warmth I find less than appealing.

To better judge for yourselves, listen to music you are familiar with. Place your hand directly over the metal grills, covering the slits with your palms. While holding on to the side of the cans with your fingers, slowly separate the palms from the grills. Do this slowly until you find the balance you find most natural and keep your hands in that position for a few seconds. Then quickly and fully remove your hands altogether and if your picking up on what I'm perceiving, you'll hear addition lower mids added beyond what you perceived to be natural(probably somewhat music dependent, I realize).


I ask this question because #1) maybe it's my particular phoens that have a slight emphasis in the lower mids or #2) maybe I'm just nuts :-) Either way, I'd be interested in hearing from others who have listened to the LCD-X.

 

 

I find that LCD-X offers excellent clarity and less coloration than both LCD-3 and LCD-2. I don't feel they have too much of anything. I find their sound extremely well balanced over the whole spectrum. 

 

You should check your other components in the system in my opinion.

post #1248 of 4916
I have tried it in multiple systems and hear this whether I am using with an Emotiva CD player with my Bryston Headphone amp, a tube amp, or even on my portable CD player. I own the LCD-2 rev 1, LCD-2 rev2, LCD-3, and of course the LCD-X.
post #1249 of 4916

@buffer

 

It's kind of tough to figure out what you're getting at, but I'll look for what you're describing this evening. So far, I haven't noticed anything like that with the Gungnir/Mjolnir/LCD-X chain. As Taowolf mentioned, your amp (and DAC) and experience with other Audeze phones would help.

post #1250 of 4916

i personally do not like Audeze's on the Gungnir//Mjolnir combo that includes the X the 3 and the 2. the 2 is better with it though

post #1251 of 4916
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Originally Posted by buffer View Post

I have a question for owners of the LCD-X. Do any of you detect a little too much lower midrange? I like the sound of my LCD-X , but my ear seems to be picking up a slight coloration that detracts ever so slightly from ultimate clarity and adds more warmth than I'd like. My ear seems to detect a bit too much lower midrange, which is probably also responsible for the very forward vocals which I do like.

 

If it is what I think you are referring to, I think all Audeze cans have a bit of that, with the FR being flat up to 1kHz.  Do you have some kind of software with a good EQ you can experiment with to find the frequency that it is at?

post #1252 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

i personally do not like Audeze's on the Gungnir//Mjolnir combo that includes the X the 3 and the 2. the 2 is better with it though

 

That's interesting, what don't you like about it?

post #1253 of 4916
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Originally Posted by m17xr2b View Post
 

Is it worth the extra 700$ for the LCD-X over the LCD-2? I know that the LCD-3 are about 20% better than the LCD-2 but what about the LCD-X?

Most definitely.

 

And I'd say that the LCD-3s are better than the LCD-2s by more than 20% too when properly driven. While the LCD-2s are pretty easy to get them at their best, the LCD-3s are certainly trickier. 

post #1254 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post
 

 

That's interesting, what don't you like about it?

 

several things. its an ok combo but nothing amazing, thats about all im gonna say, otherwise everyone will retaliate and i don't feel like this is a battle i would wanna fight in, especially in the LCD-X thread which already has alot of non-constructive posts in it, don't want it to become another he-500 thread :confused_face:  but overall, after hearing what good tube amps can do with the audeze's as well as the GSX MK2, it kinda left me cold. 

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Most definitely.

 

And I'd say that the LCD-3s are better than the LCD-2s by more than 20% too when properly driven. While the LCD-2s are pretty easy to get them at their best, the LCD-3s are certainly trickier. 

 

+1 

 

i find the LCD-3 a significant step up from the 2's when properly amped. 


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 11/15/13 at 6:11pm
post #1255 of 4916

I'm thinking about selling everything I own and going for Master 9 + LCD-X.

 

For source? I might have to slum it wiht the Concero or get a b-stock Andeio D2/X-Sabre. It's funny how my end-game keeps redifining itself.

post #1256 of 4916
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

I'm thinking about selling everything I own and going for Master 9 + LCD-X.

 

For source? I might have to slum it wiht the Concero or get a b-stock Andeio D2/X-Sabre. It's funny how my end-game keeps redifining itself.

That would be one heck of an endgame rig. :smile:

post #1257 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

several things. its an ok combo but nothing amazing, thats about all im gonna say, otherwise everyone will retaliate and i don't feel like this is a battle i would wanna fight in, especially in the LCD-X thread which already has alot of non-constructive posts in it, don't want it to become another he-500 thread :confused_face:  but overall, after hearing what good tube amps can do with the audeze's as well as the GSX MK2, it kinda left me cold. 

 

 

I like the GS-X Mk II a lot.  Hopefully Justin will be able to make the DC meet so I can hear it with the LCD-X versus my Mjolnir. What are some high-end tube amps that pair well with the Audezes? It's so freakin' hard to audition gear around here. I'm always interested in the most limiting factor in my setup to point in the direction of my next upgrade.

post #1258 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post
 

 

I like the GS-X Mk II a lot.  Hopefully Justin will be able to make the DC meet so I can hear it with the LCD-X versus my Mjolnir. What are some high-end tube amps that pair well with the Audezes? It's so freakin' hard to audition gear around here. I'm always interested in the most limiting factor in my setup to point in the direction of my next upgrade.

I can confirm that the GS-X MK2 and the LCD-X (like the LCD-3) is a fantastic combination! 

 

Heck, its the best amp I've heard the HD800s with FWIW.

post #1259 of 4916
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I can confirm that the GS-X MK2 and the LCD-X (like the LCD-3) is a fantastic combination! 

 

Heck, its the best amp I've heard the HD800s with FWIW.

 

I'm sure someone can convince me that I'm being silly, but I feel like the amp I'm using for my headphones shouldn't cost more than the headphones themselves.  It seems like the money would be better spent on more expensive headphones.  

 

In other words, someone sell me a GS-X MK2 for half price.

post #1260 of 4916

cixx, you are dead wrong.

The amp is as important as the headphone (actually more important).

The amp is what makes the headphones sing.
The more power you have the less distortion you will experience.

The amp should be the best that you can afford.

Then, you buy the best headphones you can afford.

 

But all of this is mute if you source is not the best it can be.

The saying is:
poop in poop out.


 


Edited by CrazyRay - 11/15/13 at 11:33pm
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