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Originally Posted by JeffA View Post

Question about cables. The X is my first Audeze. I have been listening with the stock cable. What other cables do people recommend? I am aware of Audeze cables made by Moon (Silver Dragon?), Alo (Green, 8, 16, and S&P), Cardas, Q, and Toxic. My hope is that I can get a very perceptible upgrade over the stock cable for less than $400 (5-6 feet). Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

I would recommend Headphone Lounge cables. Ted Allen is great to deal with and makes some of the best cables at great prices.
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I don't mean to say that cables make NO difference at all to the sound signature. I believe that they do, albeit a modest one. here is mine.

 

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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post
 

I would check the Toxic Cables too. I found differences in more than looks, flexibility and custom length....

 

Don't forget that famous half a year wait. :wink_face:

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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

 

Don't forget that famous half a year wait. :wink_face:

As of next month, we will be holding many of the cables in stock and ready to ship.

post #1205 of 8652
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post
 

As of next month, we will be holding many of the cables in stock and ready to ship.

 

No disrespect, but you'll have to prove that to me for me to be a believer. I followed the toxic thread for quite a while and gave up on getting one because of the wait. 

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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

 

Don't forget that famous half a year wait. :wink_face:

I am not going anywhere :) (I waited 2 months ) . I like the materials Toxic uses for the cables and improved my LCD-2 sound wise too

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Maybe you cable proponents can help me with something, cause especially with a headphone as high end as an Audeze, I would love to believe that cables can make a difference. 

 

Probably most of you have heard the "dirty window" analogy...you can have eight perfectly clean, spottless, transparent windows all in a row....but if you have that ONE dirty one somewhere in the mix, it ruins the whole view. If cables were hardwired from the amplifier straight to the drivers/crossover/whatever (Im not an electronics guy...scuse the ignorance), that would be one thing. But doesn't it sort of defeat the point of having expensive fancy cable of whatever material(s) when all you do is connect that to hubs/posts/jacks/whatever when you actually get around to the CONNECTING part? Wouldnt' the conductive materials of the connectors/jacks need to be the SAME material as the cable itself to even be able to theorize there would be any benefit? Otherwise, if you just use any ol' mini-XLR or banana plugs or spades that everyone else uses, aren't you just allowing those things to be the dirty window messing up the view? 

 

And to be clear, this is not me firing the first shot in a cable debate...I take NO position on the matter. It's just something I've considered for both my T1s and Audeze phones. 

 

Thanks

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I have heard quite a lot of analog audio cables... And yes, some of them sounded more synergistic in certain system while others were not as enjoyable (more suitable elsewhere). I use different cables to tune the sound of my system. That said, I havent really heard anything more than just a bit different tonality/flavor... Yes, you can subjectively hear more tight bass or blacker background etc. but it's nothing more than just tuning the FR from my experience. On the other hand, power cords and power filtering is a different story... That's where I heard REAL improvement, not only adjustment.

 

That said, DIY is the way to go... nonsense to spend hundreds or thousands for cables in my opinion.

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The LCD-X arrived today and I've been auditioning it against my LCD-2.2 with the Gungnir-Mjolnir/Lyr/Magni chain.  I think it'll take a bit of time to get a handle on the differences, but I'll give some preliminary thoughts.  First, the LCD-X is DEAD SEXY in black.  The quality of the fit and finish is up to the very high Audeze standards. The anodized black rings are machined aluminum and gorgeous.  A different look than wood, but every bit as good looking.

 

My very early impressions are that the LCD-X is resolving more detail than the LCD-2, really squeezing the details out of recordings.  The Audeze house sound, somewhat lush/damped, is still very much intact--but with more resolution, air, and treble coherence than the LCD-2.2.  In some respects, the LCD-X is more LCD-3-like, particularly with respect to detail and control.

 

The LCD-2.2 voicing is more like a live performance, with enveloping bass and dynamics at the expense of of some detail. The LCD-X voicing is more studio-like, reproducing fine detail without exaggeration or distortion. While both headphones do an excellent job of preserving the natural timbre and harmonics of instruments, the LCD-X takes it a step further in fidelity.

 

The LCD-X takes the Audeze sound in a step towards HE-6/HD800/SR-009 voicing, but you're not going to confuse the LCD-X with any of those headphones.

 

I could be perfectly happy with the LCD-2.2, LCD-3, or the LCD-X--they're all absolutely outstanding headphones, and more similar than different.

 

The Mjolnir continues to kick ass, and sounds dynamic, clear, and detailed with the LCD-X. Once in a while it veers a bit bright with some recordings, but nothing too bad. I don't have any other high-end amps for comparison, but I'm not in hurry to trade the Mjolnir in just yet. Like the LCD-2.2, the LCD-X sounds good with the Lyr/O-Globes, but leaves some resolution on the table.  The LC-X on the Magni sounds like it has a cold, compared to the Mjolnir.

 

Overall, I'm impressed with the LCD-X and look forward to running it with a wide range of my recordings.

post #1210 of 8652
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post
 

As of next month, we will be holding many of the cables in stock and ready to ship.

 

Personally,  I haven't been in the queue - but I've inquired on multiple occasions via email, only to get a response a few days latter with minimal words saying "We currently have a large amount of orders, the wait is 8-16 weeks." For a cable that is ridiculous, if what you say is true... I'm glad you are doing something about your yield times. No disrespect, but anyone willing to wait that long for a cable is crazy IMO. 

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Barry: Congrats!! Those look beautiful! I'm definitely sold on the black rings...I know most probably prefer the gray, but I love the all black look. Very sharp. 

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Barry, I look forward to more impressions with the M&G stack as I'm considering them right now.
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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post
 

 

 

 

 

The LCD-X arrived today and I've been auditioning it against my LCD-2.2 with the Gungnir-Mjolnir/Lyr/Magni chain.  I think it'll take a bit of time to get a handle on the differences, but I'll give some preliminary thoughts.  First, the LCD-X is DEAD SEXY in black.  The quality of the fit and finish is up to the very high Audeze standards. The anodized black rings are machined aluminum and gorgeous.  A different look than wood, but every bit as good looking.

 

My very early impressions are that the LCD-X is resolving more detail than the LCD-2, really squeezing the details out of recordings.  The Audeze house sound, somewhat lush/damped, is still very much intact--but with more resolution, air, and treble coherence than the LCD-2.2.  In some respects, the LCD-X is more LCD-3-like, particularly with respect to detail and control.

 

The LCD-2.2 voicing is more like a live performance, with enveloping bass and dynamics at the expense of of some detail. The LCD-X voicing is more studio-like, reproducing fine detail without exaggeration or distortion. While both headphones do an excellent job of preserving the natural timbre and harmonics of instruments, the LCD-X takes it a step further in fidelity.

 

The LCD-X takes the Audeze sound in a step towards HE-6/HD800/SR-009 voicing, but you're not going to confuse the LCD-X with any of those headphones.

 

I could be perfectly happy with the LCD-2.2, LCD-3, or the LCD-X--they're all absolutely outstanding headphones, and more similar than different.

 

The Mjolnir continues to kick ass, and sounds dynamic, clear, and detailed with the LCD-X. Once in a while it veers a bit bright with some recordings, but nothing too bad. I don't have any other high-end amps for comparison, but I'm not in hurry to trade the Mjolnir in just yet. Like the LCD-2.2, the LCD-X sounds good with the Lyr/O-Globes, but leaves some resolution on the table.  The LC-X on the Magni sounds like it has a cold, compared to the Mjolnir.

 

Overall, I'm impressed with the LCD-X and look forward to running it with a wide range of my recordings.

 

Thanks for shaing Barry. Those hp's do look very nice. If you need someone to customize that stock cable, I know a guy. :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

Barry: Congrats!! Those look beautiful! I'm definitely sold on the black rings...I know most probably prefer the gray, but I love the all black look. Very sharp. 

 

Thanks man.  Choosing black was easy, since there's a three week wait for gray.

 

 

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Originally Posted by leesure View Post

Barry, I look forward to more impressions with the M&G stack as I'm considering them right now.

 

I can't recommend the Mjolnir/Gungnir enough with Audeze phones.  Really brings out the best in the LCD-2s and so far, very nice with the LCD-X if you're ok with a slightly brighter presentation.

 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Thanks for shaing Barry. Those hp's do look very nice. If you need someone to customize that stock cable, I know a guy. :biggrin:

 

Thanks Matt. Still planning to venture into some custom cables when I get a chance. I know there's a bamboo LCD-2 with your name on it somewhere. :beerchug:

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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post
 

I am starting to rediscover some songs, because of the excellent treble on LCD-X, songs  that I never truly noticed before .

 

The Mozart Harpsichord Concerto sounds just amazing. I cannot get enough of that treble ( i never thought i would be this fascinated in this manner by the treble before )

 

Thanks for your impressions related to the X performance on classical music.  Very important to include this genre in my opinion.

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