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I'm interested in the upper-end extension and whether the LCD-2, LCD-3 or LCD-X is better. By upper-end extension I don't mean that I want a bright sound, but rather a sense that the very high harmonics are lively and well integrated into the sound.

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Originally Posted by raddle View Post
 

I'm interested in the upper-end extension and whether the LCD-2, LCD-3 or LCD-X is better. By upper-end extension I don't mean that I want a bright sound, but rather a sense that the very high harmonics are lively and well integrated into the sound.

 

LCD-2 and 3 do not have that much very high harmonics in the first place. Treble in general, as I said, is much more improved and that alone makes X probably the best Audeze I've heard.

 

 

...Except I have not heard XC, very few people have/heard it it seems.

post #1113 of 8661

I do wish I spent more time with the XC. The only thing I came away with was that it sounded like it had a surprisingly flat FR and that it wasn't as euphonic as the other audeze headphones.

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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

So does the X have faster transient response than the LCD-3 or not? This is a simple question yet answers seem to be all over the map. I normally equate resolution = transient speed = more sonic information per second hitting my ears. So I guess the Fazor tech is all about phase correction? Like JH Audio's freqphase?

Ok. It was hard to explain the differences here. As MacedonianHero said, the LCD-3 still has some very special mids. If the sound is made by : attack, extension , decay, LCD-X has better attack and decay, while LCD-3 has better extension and longer decay(I think because of the still thinner membrane).  So, because of this, the sound is faster and better contoured with LCD-X while LCD3 has a little more magic in the sound, sometimes more euphonic.


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 11/12/13 at 4:54am
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I'm still scratching my head about the LCD-X. I'm using them with the Phoenix (Skylab's excellent review is a good read to put things into perspective). What seems to have changed that I can see from measurements and listening compared to my LCD-3s is in the upper mids and treble area, with a bit less of the Audeze house sound there. My third pair of LCD-3s were still somewhat muffled-sounding at times, whereas the LCD-Xs are not. They do seem to be able to achieve something of the trick 'stats usually do of having a relatively "bright" treble (and note here that I'm being very general with that comment and the 8 kHz peak isn't going to be so bright for all music) but without it being irritating in any way. 

 

I've broken out the binaural music, especially Jon McCleary on the Accidental Powercut Series from Bowers and Wilkins and really getting into it again with the volume turned down so the sounds become delicate. Though there's probably a tiny bit of detail loss noticeable on the percussion, I don't feel like I've compromised at all probably because of the more precise imaging and the realistic (to me anyway) sound of the instruments.

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i'm not surprised about the initial reports on lcd-x since the lower "impedance" (resistance), and higher efficiency could mean they may fit other amps, setups, better than the ones someone may go for when thinking about lcd2&3

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I would be cautious for those considering "upgrading" to an LCD-X from an LCD-3. We know that in some aspects the LCD-X may be preferable and in others the LCD-3. The LCD-X is not a replacement, or successor to the LCD-3. But for sure there WILL be at some time in the next year or so.

 

For those constrained by a budget, it would be deeply unsatisfying, to change to an LCD-X, only to then hear the LCD-4 announcement and want to change again!

 

I am going to hold out for the LCD-4. Afterall, it is hardly the fact that the LCD-Xs are in a different league to the LCD-3s.

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Originally Posted by jonstatt View Post it is hardly the fact that the LCD-Xs are in a different league to the LCD-3s.

they actually probably are, in sense that they probably target those consumer whose gear cannot accommodate a hard to drive planar or want a can to be a valid as portable as well as a desktop, but probably to early to say

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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

I'm still scratching my head about the LCD-X. I'm using them with the Phoenix (Skylab's excellent review is a good read to put things into perspective). What seems to have changed that I can see from measurements and listening compared to my LCD-3s is in the upper mids and treble area, with a bit less of the Audeze house sound there. My third pair of LCD-3s were still somewhat muffled-sounding at times, whereas the LCD-Xs are not. They do seem to be able to achieve something of the trick 'stats usually do of having a relatively "bright" treble (and note here that I'm being very general with that comment and the 8 kHz peak isn't going to be so bright for all music) but without it being irritating in any way. 

 

I've broken out the binaural music, especially Jon McCleary on the Accidental Powercut Series from Bowers and Wilkins and really getting into it again with the volume turned down so the sounds become delicate. Though there's probably a tiny bit of detail loss noticeable on the percussion, I don't feel like I've compromised at all probably because of the more precise imaging and the realistic (to me anyway) sound of the instruments.

 

Currawong, 

 

Have you heard the HE-6? If so, would you mind comparing the LCD-X? I liked the Velvety smooth character of the LCD-3, but it was a bit lush and bass heavy (treble shy) for my taste. I think I would prefer the neutral, brighter sound of the LCD-X which is why I'm interested in the HE-6 / LCD-X comparison. 

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Has anyone found what amps they consider to be ideal for the LCD-X?

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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post
 

Has anyone found what amps they consider to be ideal for the LCD-X?

 

I heard them on GS-X mk2, audioGD master 8, schiit mjolnir & schiit lyr.

 

I'd also rank them in that order of preference.

post #1122 of 8661

And in terms of performance how would you rate them on a 1 to 10 scale, I'm wondering how different Master -8 and GS-X mk2 are.

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Originally Posted by mowglycdb View Post
 

And in terms of performance how would you rate them on a 1 to 10 scale, I'm wondering how different Master -8 and GS-X mk2 are.

 

It was really hard to hear a difference, also consider the GS-X is 2x the cost and near impossible to obtain.

 

The master 8 is gigantic, looks like it was built into a home audio chassis.  Quite an impressive amp, and was great for A/B comparisons since you can plug like 3 sets in at once.

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Originally Posted by fortitude View Post

I heard them on GS-X mk2, audioGD master 8, schiit mjolnir & schiit lyr.

I'd also rank them in that order of preference.


+1

As. For master 8 vs gsx mk2. I heard all 4 audeze on those amps as well during the chicago meet. Both make the X sound fantastic, on master 8, they sounded more neutral and kinda hd 800 like but with audeze flavor, on the gsx mk2, they sounded more like lcd-2 and more like an audeze.

The master 8 is slightly on the bright side of neutral, with a huge soundstage. Its airy sounding. The gsx mk2 is slightly laid back but neutral as well. The gsx mk2 sounds more natural but both amps are just as good with similar performance. The master 8 is. More bang for the buck, but i prefer my gsx m,2
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Originally Posted by wnmnkh View Post
 

 

LCD-2 and 3 do not have that much very high harmonics in the first place. Treble in general, as I said, is much more improved and that alone makes X probably the best Audeze I've heard.

 

 

...Except I have not heard XC, very few people have/heard it it seems.

that's very promising news about X. I've heard the LCD-2 and -3 and wasn't impressed with the treble.

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