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post #496 of 506

The end of one plug has 2 rings and the other end has 3 rings of mine cable, and still doesn't mean all control buttons will work with CAL2. Maybe it has to have 3 rings on both plugs?

post #497 of 506

You mean the black rings?  That's just the insulator.  The metal bands that they separate are the actual contacts leading to the cable's wiring.  The headphone 2.5mm end only needs to be TRS (tip - ring - sleeve, so three bands and two black rings).  If the plug happends to have four contacts and three black rings, it does not indicate any reduced or added functionality.  The 3.5mm end that goes into any MP3 player or smart phone is the side that needs to be four contacts (tip - ring - ring - sleeve) for controls to be functional.  Android-compatible cables with in-line mics are wired differently from iDevice-compatible cables with controls and mics.

post #498 of 506

CAL!2's don't use Fostex drivers ? how about the Platinums ? has anyone compared the sound of CAL!2 to the Aurvana platinum ? I am thinking of selling the CAL!2 and buying the platinum, what do you guys think ?

post #499 of 506

CAL2's drivers look identical to CAL1's Fostex drivers.  The two sound 99.5% the same, too, so that proves it for me.  Creative just wanted to give CAL1 a makeover., it looks to me.  I'veb een curious about the platinum myself, I'll give it a go later some time.  There's also a large horde of Sonys, Senns, Grados, audio-technicas, and more I want to try over time.  Damn this hobby.

post #500 of 506

I've heard less than stellar reviews of the Platinum. Not sure if it was related to the driver, which is a 50 mm vs. 40 mm. It sounds like they would be heavier and I am not sure they work plugged in without a battery (true passive). Plus they cost several times as much. I got the Creative Aurvana Live 2 and the NVX XRE100S replacement ear pads (which can be found on Amazon, for $20, same price as the very similar, but not quite as good, Brainwavz HM5 ear pads). I had given them 2 weeks burn in, 24 hours a day at loud but bearable listening levels alternating both true Pink Noise, not white, and standard pop music. I mean not wearing them.


Make sure the pads are on properly, with wrap around fully inserted in grooves around headphone speakers, so it's fully on. These resemble Brainwavz HM5 pads, also about $20 per pair. But they are a little bit thinner and more comfortable, and better preserve bass. They are essential, for this to work. I sold my ATH-M50, Phillips Fidelio L2, returned Shure SRH-1540, due to this. They have near as much bass slam as the ATH-M50, almost as good detail in the highs, as the Phillips or Shure, a touch less refined, but also several times lower cost. But the magic is the midrange, full, warm, not monitor neutral as many like, but very comfortable sound.


I've only have these and Sennheiser HD650 now. Of course I'll try others in the future. HD650 have remarkable detail and stereo placement, lacking just a bit of air, and low sub bass and not being good for isolation. I get that with the Creative, great isolation comfort, similar warm high mids and more low subs. Other than getting a better 3.5 to 2.5 cable (preferably like 2 meters) those headphones are a done deal. I'd hope to find solid core copper cable since the Audiocadabra.com version I use with HD650 made such a subtle improvement with overall refinement. Still warm Sennheiser sound, but even more of that surprising HD650 detail.


Edited by Mark Up - 8/24/15 at 10:07am
post #501 of 506
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I've heard less than stellar reviews of the Platinum. Not sure if it was related to the driver, which is a 50 mm vs. 40 mm. It sounds like they would be heavier and I am not sure they work plugged in without a battery (true passive). Plus they cost several times as much. I got the Creative Aurvana Live 2 and the NVX XRE100S replacement ear pads (which can be found on Amazon, for $20, same price as the very similar, but not quite as good, Brainwavz HM5 ear pads). I had given them 2 weeks burn in, 24 hours a day at loud but bearable listening levels alternating both true Pink Noise, not white, and standard pop music. I mean not wearing them.


Make sure the pads are on properly, with wrap around fully inserted in grooves around headphone speakers, so it's fully on. These resemble Brainwavz HM5 pads, also about $20 per pair. But they are a little bit thinner and more comfortable, and better preserve bass. They are essential, for this to work. I sold my ATH-M50, Phillips Fidelio L2, returned Shure SRH-1540, due to this. They have near as much bass slam as the ATH-M50, almost as good detail in the highs, as the Phillips or Shure, a touch less refined, but also several times lower cost. But the magic is the midrange, full, warm, not monitor neutral as many like, but very comfortable sound.

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Sweet!  I prefer the thinner Brainwavz v1 earpads on certain headphones, great to know NVX is the one still selling 'em these days.

 

 

 

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... I've only have these and Sennheiser HD650 now. Of course I'll try others in the future. HD650 have remarkable detail and stereo placement, lacking just a bit of air, and low sub bass and not being good for isolation. I get that with the Creative, great isolation comfort, similar warm high mids and more low subs. Other than getting a better 3.5 to 2.5 cable (preferably like 2 meters) those headphones are a done deal. I'd hope to find solid core copper cable since the Audiocadabra.com version I use with HD650 made such a subtle improvement with overall refinement. Still warm Sennheiser sound, but even more of that surprising HD650 detail.

 

I found the subbass to have no clarity, though it is quite present when running a sine sweep through the headphone.  My buddy found out later that the stock plug is just terrible, replacing it with an Amphenol 1/4" tightened up the whole sound and restored clarity to the treble and bass, most noticeably the subbass.

post #502 of 506

The Amphenol plug replacement on which set, the Sennheiser or the Creative? Plugs may help a bit, but I think cable does more.

post #503 of 506
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The Amphenol plug replacement on which set, the Sennheiser or the Creative? Plugs may help a bit, but I think cable does more.

 

Well, you're talking about HD650 there, thus so am I.

A complete recable is even better.  Half the difference a cable makes is in the plug quality, in my experience.  The stock Sennheiser cable is fine by me, after a retermination, given that I'm lazier than ever about cables lately.

post #504 of 506

Yeah, Audiocadabra.com uses amazing connectors. But the solid core copper beats everything. A bit stiff, but for home use it's fine.

post #505 of 506

Can anyone give me the measurements of the ear cups of this headphone? Both the diameter and and depth. I want to know if my ears will be touching anything. Does it get warm after a while?

post #506 of 506

I have a larger head, with above average ear size (ears don't stick out though). The regular cups just fit but I switched to NVS XRE100S pleather pads. $20 on Amazon, and slightly thinner, more comfortable, better sealing versions of the Brainwavz HM5 pads. They are more roomy and comfortable. Bass decreased slightly, but it's better. I can push them against my ears to bring back huge bass. They did not quite fully reach my ears before (large head) but these pads being longer did help them to reach.


Edited by Mark Up - Today at 7:39 am
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