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Just added my Tenores and SMSL M2 to the classifieds for anyone interested.

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I've not posted in some time due to work commitments, but have spent the last two weeks basically switching between the Tenore and B3 off my DX50. Unfortunately, I didn't/ don't have enough time to do a significant A/B comparison between the two.

I don't know if the Tenore has fully settled in (the B3 obviously has), but I still really really like it. To me, it is quite clear that the Tenore is a shade inferior in overall technicality (bass, soundstage, imaging, accuracy), but matches up in terms of separation, transparency, clarity and detail. And of course, that gorgeous treble...

The Tenore to my ears are also obviously much more musical than the B3. This makes it more preferable to the majority of listeners, to whom music is primarily meant for experiential enjoyment. I find myself appreciating the Tenore a lot more than I would, say about a month ago, because the monotony the dull nature of my work is beginning to bother me, and the Tenore's 'toe-tapping, finger-snapping' (a.k.a musical) presentation just gives me that little lift I need when on the commute to work.

The B3 on the other hand is a very 'flat' sounding IEM. The flattest I have owned, up there with the Etymotic ER4S (which I owned for a brief period of time). I do believe both the B3 and ER4S are virtually similar in terms of most of their characteristics. Both require a heck lot of power before they reach their potential. Both are super flat sounding, super accurate, and super detailed. Both seemingly lack of bass until they are fed/fitted properly, or cranked up using EQ. They will only ever cater to a smaller group of people -- those who appreciate the very little nuances in music over general enjoyment. I suppose the two terms that spring immediately to mind are: analytical, reference-sounding.

I suppose the most practical way of explaining how I feel about the Tenore and B3 should be in terms of music genres. When I put on a track like 'Home' by Phillip Phillips, with the furious guitar strumming away, I just wanna go with the flow of the music and play along. Here, the Tenore gives me exactly what I want. This is the same for other tracks such as 'Fernando' by Abba, and all of Abba's upbeat pop tunes for that matter, and also the entirety of Coldplay's 'Viva La Vida', which is essentially an instrumental album littered with Chris Martin's vocals.

When I turn back the clock to the old Coldplay and their offerings such as 'A Rush of Blood to the Head', and even more so with 'Parachutes', the music is more stripped down, more melancholic, almost as if meant for contemplation and rumination, the Tenore becomes slightly out of place, and now the B3 comes to the forefront with how it allows me to just soak in and become engulfed in the music. I don't need hard-hitting bass or any peaks at any other frequencies. I just need to 'experience' the music. The same goes for classical music. Air on the G String by Bach, and Mozart's 40th Symphony are two of my all-time favorite compositions, and there's no IEM or headphones I'll reach over the B3. In classical music, you want everything the B3 excels in. Soundstage, imaging, accuracy. Every instrument must be perfectly reproduced. Nothing artificial, except what is meant to be heard, precisely in the way it is 'created'.

I suppose this has fizzled down into a rather self-absorbing run-through of my musical inclinations, and I shall not ramble on. But basically the point that I am making, is that for me at least, I believe in the merits of having two IEMs of very different sonic traits, given the rather diverse range of music that I listen to, and the different reasons I listen to music at different points in time. Sometimes we have a tendency to become suckered into direct comparisons, and by extension, which IEM is better than the other. Of course there are instances where direct comparison is a good reference point for IEM purchase decisions. But in some cases, maybe the answer is simply: IEMs are not meant to be pitted against each other. They exist in different 'realms', each for its own purpose and for its own time.

 

 

Interesting impressions! I haven't heard the B3's, but I personally find the reference nature of the tenores to not be as musical, toe-tapping and engaging as something like the KC06's. So to read that you find the tenores to be more musical than the B3's is interesting indeed, because I'm not sure that I want anything more reference/flatter than the tenores.

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

Interesting impressions! I haven't heard the B3's, but I personally find the reference nature of the tenores to not be as musical, toe-tapping and engaging as something like the KC06's. So to read that you find the tenores to be more musical than the B3's is interesting indeed, because I'm not sure that I want anything more reference/flatter than the tenores.

Perhaps I should have stated as well, I very much prefer analytical sounding IEMs to more musical ones. In fact, of all the IEMs I've ever owned (~15) and all the IEMs I've ever had the chance to listen for an extended period of time (~20-25), the only ones which would likely classify as being musical sounding are the Shure SE215 (sold) and KC06 (sold).

Hence when I refer to the musicality of the Tenore, this is in comparison with other IEMs such as the TF10 (half-half I suppose), Rockit R50, Audio Technica CK100Pro, Audio Technica IM02, Etymotic ER4PT/S, Havi B3. The Tenore might be considered reference sounding with respect to the whole range of IEMs out there right now, but in my arsenal of IEMs, all the other IEMs are almost certainly flatter / more analytical sounding than the Tenore.

I know from my experiences with the VSD1S and KC06 that I was hitting the limit of my V-shaped, fun treshold. Those were certainly a lot more musical than the Tenore. I guess it's just me. I don't like high quantities of bass and I don't like my mids getting drowned out. The Tenore offer me a really nice balance of being a fun-sounding but yet relatively reference-ish IEM. Hope that clarifies things!
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Ok so T-PEOS came out with a dual dynamic driver/single BA hybrid IEM, H-150, and there's almost no info on it, even with current prices going for $100.00. WHY IS THAT? Did they turn out to suck? Even for someone who isn't a fan of T-PEOS, this seems an intriguing concept.
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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post

Perhaps I should have stated as well, I very much prefer analytical sounding IEMs to more musical ones. In fact, of all the IEMs I've ever owned (~15) and all the IEMs I've ever had the chance to listen for an extended period of time (~20-25), the only ones which would likely classify as being musical sounding are the Shure SE215 (sold) and KC06 (sold).

Hence when I refer to the musicality of the Tenore, this is in comparison with other IEMs such as the TF10 (half-half I suppose), Rockit R50, Audio Technica CK100Pro, Audio Technica IM02, Etymotic ER4PT/S, Havi B3. The Tenore might be considered reference sounding with respect to the whole range of IEMs out there right now, but in my arsenal of IEMs, all the other IEMs are almost certainly flatter / more analytical sounding than the Tenore.

I know from my experiences with the VSD1S and KC06 that I was hitting the limit of my V-shaped, fun treshold. Those were certainly a lot more musical than the Tenore. I guess it's just me. I don't like high quantities of bass and I don't like my mids getting drowned out. The Tenore offer me a really nice balance of being a fun-sounding but yet relatively reference-ish IEM. Hope that clarifies things!

It clarifies things, and boy do I like your way of thinking/hearing. I don't like a lot of color in my music either. If the music dictates color, it will be found in the recordings.
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Could have turned out to have been an unfavorable sound sig or lack of hype. The audio world has been going by pretty fast for me personally after being away from head fi for a week and upon my return I am already intrigued by many new headphones. Never heard or read about the h-150 and only just recently heard of the h-300 myself, so if I were to craft a theory possibly the hype got sucked out in favor for another t-peos iem.

 

 

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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post

Ok so T-PEOS came out with a dual dynamic driver/single BA hybrid IEM, H-150, and there's almost no info on it, even with current prices going for $100.00. WHY IS THAT? Did they turn out to suck? Even for someone who isn't a fan of T-PEOS, this seems an intriguing concept.
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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post

Ok so T-PEOS came out with a dual dynamic driver/single BA hybrid IEM, H-150, and there's almost no info on it, even with current prices going for $100.00. WHY IS THAT? Did they turn out to suck? Even for someone who isn't a fan of T-PEOS, this seems an intriguing concept.

Never heard of, maybe someone messed up the name somwhere and this is it:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/724546/new-t-peos-altone200-3-way-hybrid-introduction-high-end-sound-cheap-as-chips/135#post_10698258

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Peter, what's your favorite IEM at the moment, and are you thinking about getting the Doppio?
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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post

Ok so T-PEOS came out with a dual dynamic driver/single BA hybrid IEM, H-150, and there's almost no info on it, even with current prices going for $100.00. WHY IS THAT? Did they turn out to suck? Even for someone who isn't a fan of T-PEOS, this seems an intriguing concept.

No idea - it doesn't seem like it ever really took off. I mean, can you find it available for purchase anywhere? If not, it's safe to assume it hasn't been released to the public and that's the reason for lack of reviews.

 

On another note, please could you stop posting the same thing in three threads at a time? You've done it twice in the span of 30 minutes. If you have a look at Head-Fi's ToS, you'll see the following under posting etiquette: 

 

Do not cross-post. (Cross-posting is posting the same post to more than one thread, or the same thread to more than one forum.)

post #4480 of 5083
It happens all the time, genius. I've been visiting this site for years. People who are supposed to be the cream of the cream will post something on the Chinese thread, discovery thread, and a thread that directly deals with the selected item, to give those who might not browse through EVERY page a chance to we included. Take the sb elsewhere, sir. Thank you very much.

Oh and they are available on eBay for various prices. I've got Doppio on the way, so I can't really get anything new until I at least give them a good spin.
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Did anyone try this?
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Speaking of the discovery thread, that place seems to be dying a slow death? That page used to take days to go through if you missed a few hours, and lately you get maybe three or four posts every couple days. New discoveries can't have slowed up that much can they? I love the Chinese/Asian thread. Always mega insightful, informative, full of cool people, and always brisk with the postings and ponderings.
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interesting iem this h150. quite a different approach to hybrid iems. usually the do dynamics for lows, but here it seems the dynamics are for lows and mids and the armature is the tweeter...

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Did anyone try this?

Those Datsuns up top are Monster Turbine Gold knockoffs. If they sound anything like the originals, they are the steal of the century at $20. I owned the Coppers and the Trumpets, and Monster hit audio home runs with both.
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interesting iem this h150. quite a different approach to hybrid iems. usually the do dynamics for lows, but here it seems the dynamics are for lows and mids and the armature is the tweeter...

I agree sir. Quite a pull for me, but I've got to resist for now...
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