Chinese / Asian Brand Info Thread (Headphones, IEMs, Amps, DACs)
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Jun 29, 2016 at 4:30 AM Post #30,481 of 35,472
its one of the best single drivers ive heard
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It is the best single DD Ive heard so far.. havnt heard IE800 but have IE80 which has its strenghts and weaknesses. .
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How would You guys compare it to Trinity Techne?
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 4:33 AM Post #30,482 of 35,472
Do we know what the sound signature of the Master 4 is supposed to be?


No we don't since no one has heard them yet.

People love to speculate so by all means do (the Trinity thread may be a better place for that than this one though) but no one except the designer knows.
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 4:39 AM Post #30,483 of 35,472
  I just got an HCK order, and they sent me a MusicMaker KK-Ting instead of the **** VT-66 I ordered. Probably lucky me as the KK-Ting is $24 vs. $14 for the VT-66, but I haven't ordered any MusicMaker because they don't include a mic, or detachable cables where I could add one. Oh well, a 30 second sound test with no burn in is excellent sound. I don't think I'll complain, but will let HCK know.
 
Separately, I also got the discounted Vivo XE800, and a same quick sound test is that it is equally awesome for $27. Although there were fakes around, only the real ones had a rotate-able nozzle. These are real, plus you don't expect a fake single dynamic to sound this good.

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  Today I got my budget price TY Hi-Z HP-32 earbuds. The first buds that have good bass without eq.
 
Piano sounds realistic but no "air" in the treble which is a bit weak, needs some eq. But this is fresh out of the box mind ...
 
Burning them in now, but already I can tell they are waaayyy better than the in-ears I got with my hi-end Nokia phone. The Nokia N8
has just enough power to drive the 32 Ohm buds to a volume I wouldn't want to increase any further.
 
Bottom line: great value for the ridiculous price of 4 US$ plus 3 $ shipping. Plus they came with 4 sets of foam covers instead of
the advertised 2 sets. So I got some cheap replacement covers for my old hi-end Sony bio-cellulose buds.
 
After the burn-in I'll compare the Hi-Zs with my Sony MDR E-888 but the Sonys definitely need some bass boost which the TYs don't. If I set my phone eq to +3 or 4 @53 Hz I get a nice strong dry deep bass, too. So even medium bassheads could enjoy the TYs I guess ...
 
If you look for dirt cheap, don't look any further LOL.

 
+1 Definitely agree!
 
   

REVIEW: Vivo Xplay 3S + XE800 Mobile audio perfection

 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/726119/review-vivo-xplay-3s-xe800-mobile-audio-perfection
 
 
 
The ones on Ali that these guys are buying are real. The fakes don't have the rotating nozzles.

 
The review is pin-point perfection!
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I remember someone showed there were fakes even with metal rotating nozzle.

 
+1 This is also true......one can not be too careful. 
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  'MuZo2' your right! .....that's why I hesitated a few years ago to buy them, until now.
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 4:53 AM Post #30,484 of 35,472
Sounds to me won't last me forever, if you had BA+DD hybrid IEM beside to you
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Yeah... no...
MEE P1 are 1DD earphones and they just destroy those BA+DD hybrids: Xiaomi Hybrid, **** DT3, Tingker K200, iValux Batte (10mm), PMV-A01.
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 4:59 AM Post #30,485 of 35,472
Yeah... no...
MEE P1 are 1DD earphones and they just destroy those BA+DD hybrids: Xiaomi Hybrid, **** DT3, Tingker K200, iValux Batte (10mm), PMV-A01.


DD should be sound better, such as CA Lyra warm and bassy.
Just for me like missing something of clarity rich detailed.
Everything is due personal reference.

Anyway like Dita & RHA T20 all are fine to me.
Just my personally required much higher than others
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 5:00 AM Post #30,486 of 35,472
No we don't since no one has heard them yet.

People love to speculate so by all means do (the Trinity thread may be a better place for that than this one though) but no one except the designer knows.

 
I thought he might have mentioned it, I don't have time to read the thread right now and the pre-order window is closing.
 
Bob, can you get a neutral sound out of the TechMe with the filters?  I'm still looking for a ballpark HD600 signature without needing to EQ.
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 5:05 AM Post #30,487 of 35,472
I thought he might have mentioned it, I don't have time to read the thread right now and the pre-order window is closing.

Bob, can you get a neutral sound out of the TechMe with the filters?  I'm still looking for a ballpark HD600 signature without needing to EQ.


I believe that he once described them as "Deltas on steroids" but tbh that don't mean much (at least not to me).
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 5:13 AM Post #30,489 of 35,472
The shozy zero is a definite keeper. I use it alongside my se215. I wish the zero was just as well built though.

I have been dying to try out the pinnacles though. The pinnacles should be endgame for most budget oriented people
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 5:19 AM Post #30,490 of 35,472
Just for me like missing something of clarity rich detailed.
Everything is due personal reference.

Cheap BA earphones have a lot less clarity and detailed sound than good DD earphones.
So it's not about DD vs BA
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Jun 29, 2016 at 5:28 AM Post #30,492 of 35,472
Greetings to all the gurus, masters, and everyone else in this thread,

After getting my end-game earbud, I am planning to once again have a dabble in the world of IEM's
 
My preference for sound signature are the following:

Wide Soundstaging
Good Detail
Airy Presentation
 
I mainly listen to orchestral pieces (i.e. Joe Hisaishi), vocal jazz (i.e. Shigeo Suzuki), piano pieces 
 
Is there any IEM be it chinese or what not in the under $100USD which will fit my needs?

Just a note I already own the following IEM's:
Hifiman RE-0
Hifiman RE-400
Sony XBA 10
 
I look forward to all your replies.

Thank-you
 
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 5:35 AM Post #30,493 of 35,472
Okay, so finally I’ve burned-in the HLSX-BK35 and HLSX-BK50 for over 100 hours and I am more than confident that much of its’ sound signature won’t probably change from this point.
First, I would like to thank MaGaosi for sending these well-made in-ear earphones in return for a thorough review.
Before I start, I would like to say that I have no affiliation and have any business relationship other than the current in-ear earphones he sent me for keeps for an honest review and help our head-fi community to have a clear picture whether they will benefit from the purchase of this product or not from several levels and insights including the sound quality and the quality therein.
The review will consist of HLSX-BK35 and the HLSX-BK50 with other comparisons that include the HLSX-808 and the HLSX-8, as well.
On my review, we’re going to focus on two hybrids. Both are housed mostly in wood, but carry totally different sound signatures for the offering. In the end, one might please you, while the other might somewhat disappoint you. But, it’s all about preference, right? We’re talking about the HLSX-BK35 (with default tips) and the HLSX-BK50 (with small AUVIO silicone tips with the red inner bore).

The Frequency Response is based according to the SPECS on the boxed package:
 
LEFT:  HLSX-BK35: Sensitivity: 100dB +/- 1 dB, Impedance: 32Ω, Frequency Range: 20-20000Hz, Microphone: YES
 
RIGHT:  HLSX-BK50: Sensitivity: 101dB/mW, Impedance: 32Ω, Frequency Range: 20-20000Hz, Microphone: YES
 
IMPORTANT NOTICE:
Before we start, the way the HLSX-BK50’s are made with larger than usual housings and longer than average nozzles, the average user would be best going “one-size-smaller” on the silicone/comply tips for a better fit! That’s why for the perfect fit, I decided to go with the “small AUVIO silicone tips with the red inner bore”. .....Don't say I didn't warn you! 
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Which is the better buy for you? You decide.
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HLSX-BK35 VS HLSX-BK50  
BASS:
The bass on the BK35 can be considered balanced at most, but nothing fancy or detailed, though it constantly sounds detached and distant (to my ears) the bass overall does perform well with all genres. With the BK50, the bass is sweet and detailed with plenty of sub-bass when called for. Some may consider the Bass dominate, but the vocals over shine that possibility with a sense of openness and clarity both musically and harmonically.
MIDRANGE:
Though I was expecting the BK35’s to do great in this area, they actually did fare well, but at a cost! It lacks the details needed to sound more realistic at most sounding splashy now and then. In the other hand, the BK50 sounds realistic and refreshing and can really entertain our ears to a full vocal type concert with breathe taking accuracy.
TREBLE:
With the details, or even micro-details this is where the BK35 struggles the most! After burning them in for over 100 hours they still can’t perform to their price bracket. They tend to still sound splashy every now and then and more artificial than realistic, at most. While with the BK50, they truly shined after the burn-in process and besides brilliant details I can even pick-up micro-details while still having a smooth and open atmosphere with a hi-end crisp sound signature to them that’s really hard to stop listening to.
SOUNDSTAGE:
The BK50 has a very wide soundstage with precision, accuracy and plenty of details. They are well balanced with a slight emphasis in sub-bass and vocals giving you great resolution throughout the whole spectrum. They can put on smile on any one that’s interested in their signature and style and even the most enthusiast audio junkie, for that matter. Unfortunately, with the BK35 the distraction of a distant-like bass signature, combined with a splashy-like midrange, and artificial sounding highs tends to widen the soundstage -“believe it, or not”, but overall sounds sloppy and distasteful, the least to say.

FINAL ANALYSIS:
 
What worries me most of the BK35 is that they seem to have “a disconnect” between the coherency of the bass and midrange that really makes it hard for me to enjoy…..adding to that, the artificial sounding details on top sounds more as if your hearing a portable transistor radio from past-time when I was much younger. But, with the BK50 (as long as QC is not a factor) you’re getting a lot of bang for the buck! I mean, these bad boys are warm, lively, clear, and easy to pin-point the details from one end to the other. In the end, the vocals are open and spacious with plenty of musicality to go around.
 

 
UPDATE ON HLSX-808 and HLSX-8: 
 
By far, I’ve enjoyed the HLSX-808 for quite some time and whether playing them directly out of a DAP or a headphone amp they have been the epitome of great sound for such a low costing price for a hybrid. The HLSX-8 faired “just OK” for a hybrid and are capable of producing good bass, but the overall sound signature is dominated by the same dynamic driver producing such BIG bass making it just a fair product to buy for the asking price, while in the end the 808 reigned supreme over them for their clarity and crisp signature.
 
CONCLUSION:
 
In this latest review, this is how it currently stands for me with the BK50 being my current favorite slightly over the 808's.....
 
FROM FAVORITE TO LEAST:
HLSX-BK50 (with aftermarket small AUVIO silicone tips with red inner bore)
HLSX-808 (default tips) (right behind the BK50, but with more bass presence)
HLSX-8 (default tips) (Bass dominate sound signature)
HLSX-BK35 (default tips)
Hope this review was beneficial for those interested on the current HLSX series by MaGaosi.
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Jun 29, 2016 at 5:38 AM Post #30,494 of 35,472
Originally Posted by AudioNewbi3 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
 
Wide Soundstaging
Good Detail
Airy Presentation
 
I mainly listen to orchestral pieces (i.e. Joe Hisaishi), vocal jazz (i.e. Shigeo Suzuki), piano pieces 
 
Is there any IEM be it chinese or what not in the under $100USD which will fit my needs?

PMV A01, but they need good isolation (foams or long silicons).
 
Jun 29, 2016 at 5:39 AM Post #30,495 of 35,472
 
Trinity "house sound" but to quote Bob@Trinity, Delta VII on Steroids. 
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I've just read Brooko's review of the original Delta (http://www.head-fi.org/products/trinity-delta-dual-hybrid-iem), and am disappointed to again see heavy treble rolloff in the graphs.  Why do so many IEMs do this?  Is it a limitation of the drivers, or does nobody like flat treble?
 
EDIT: I found the answer:
 
"It is worth noting that while a flat response “on paper” for a room speaker should appear flat, IEM’s must favour some frequencies over others to achieve “perceived flat response”. This is because mastering assumes that the sound will be played over room speakers. Room speakers have a noticeable characteristic of somewhat lacking treble, even if they are producing a “balanced sound”. This is because treble frequencies are the first to be absorbed by the air, and by the time the sound reaches our ears, much of the high frequency energy would have been absorbed. Mastering takes this into account and “boosts” high frequencies to overcome this.
IEM’s however do not have this issue and very little treble is absorbed by the small distance in the ear canal. This is why most reference IEM’s tend to lower treble frequencies and boost bass to appear to sound flat."


So the graphs are not that easy to interpret.
 
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