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post #1966 of 7926
If it had wooden housing then probably it will have the timbre of the fx850 ūüėĀ
post #1967 of 7926
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

Even though the B3's are harder to drive than your average iem there's no problem with the X3. Just compared them with X3 and Magni and they both drive them equally good, just different characteristics. Actually they produce a bit more bass with the X3. I like them best with my LD I+ through, so smooth and sufficient bass. Bhazard seem to like them with his Aune T1 as well so those of you that have the possibility should try them with tubes smily_headphones1.gif

The Magni and T1 offer 1000mW of power on tap. Not too many portable setups will come close, but the X3 should drive it pretty well.

 

The most I ever put the volume dial on the T1 is 50%, so expect around 200-500mW to be optimal to drive the old B3. My Nexus 5 doesn't have enough power to drive them, but the iPhone can drive them somewhat acceptably.

post #1968 of 7926
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Originally Posted by analogsurviver View Post
 

I would like to cry out FOUL for the above post being the first ( I apologize if I missed another - if it exists in this thread ) to point out Havi B3 Pro (Old Version, with the red paper sticker dot on the transparent lid of the box ) to mention they are - power hungry. This is waaay understated - I never run across an IEM that needs so much juice to start to sing.

 

The minute I opened the box and put them in my ears I pressed the play button on the Korg MR 1000 recorder and the song was the last song from the "scouting acoustics" session for the renaissance programme of one of the very best male choirs on the planet. This is very quiet music, sung mostly very softly - hence the need for another acoustics we record more usual repertoire in.

 

Flying colours. Even the damn lamp pole OUTSIDE of church carying not only lamp but two not-so-small-transformers-making-big-hum- noise was clearly correctly slightly to the left and CLEARLY behind ( the correct location in real life ) was perfectly reproduced. When we will be recording for real, this hum will have to be *somehow* silenced - one way - or another. Simple method of "stoning the bulb" would just not work - transformers will still be there, as they obviously supply the current for all the lights surrounding the church.

 

Then came the icicle cold shower. Beethoven 5th symphony - recording from a few days back. On timpany, it was clear that my amp is clipping - and look at the volume control really alarmed me,as I NEVER had it that high before, with anything, but speccially not an IEM.

 

That is a bummer - meaning that truly portable use of Havi B3 Pro (Old Version) is no go. My amp can take power supply from 9V DC to 44V DC - and I will determine just how much is needed for Havi today - but anything more than a single 9V battery is ever more cumbersome and more transportable than truly portable.

 

The power hungryness of Havi is compounded by the need to boost the bass - it is not much required ( exact amount to be determined after at least say 10 hours of normal operation - but preferably after GOOD burn in ) - and that increases demands on the source/amp yet further.

 

So - those who are considering Havi B3 Pro (Old Version) - ask yourself if you do have equipment to support them properly. I can see some quite long faces otherwise ...

 

Agreed on Penon Audio aka bestbargainsonline @ ebay; very prompt communication, it took exactly 15 days, customs etc included, from the order to delivery via standard Hong Kong air mail post, not courier service. One can not ask for anything more; I warmly recommend them. They even went to the trouble of putting real stamps ( VERY nice looking stamps, certainly not common in my neck of woods...) instead of printed postage sticker on the nicely wrapped package - these guys take pride in their work, promoting Hong Kong in the process. It just does not get any better than this.

 

Thanks for mentioning this!  For someone who listens straight out of laptop and phone, this is very helpful.  Right now, the most power hungry IEM I have is the KEF M200.

post #1969 of 7926
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

 

Thanks for mentioning this!  For someone who listens straight out of laptop and phone, this is very helpful.  Right now, the most power hungry IEM I have is the KEF M200.

The KEF and Havi are similar power wise. Both truly need an amp.

post #1970 of 7926
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A poor man's fx650-850 perhaps? KZ has a presale for an ebony detachable IEM with a "Linear professional" version.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=37779381234

post #1971 of 7926
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

A poor man's fx650-850 perhaps? KZ has a presale for an ebony detachable IEM with a "Linear professional" version.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=37779381234

Almost went in for the presale of the linear professional edition. Checked out Mistertao and Smalltao. Was $5 more on Mistertao, ~$29.50 vs. ~$34.50 so I went with smalltao and couldn't pay. Error message for CC payment page and though it says on the first page Paypal is also accepted it probably wasn't for that seller so no other option. Didn't feel like going through it again on mistertao so my wallet is won't be getting any lighter.


Edited by jant71 - 3/14/14 at 2:23pm
post #1972 of 7926

My order from Penon Audio aka bestbargainsonline @ ebay; arrived today.

Havi B3 Pro V1 with Red Dot on the box.

Tested for working and all is good.  Sounds great right out of the box.

Giving them some play time, will listen seriously later.

Thanks all for outing these.

 

R

post #1973 of 7926
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

Almost went in for the presale of the linear professional edition. Checked out Mistertao and Smalltao. Was $5 more on Mistertao, ~$29.50 vs. ~$34.50 so I went with smalltao and couldn't pay. Error message for CC payment page and though it says on the first page Paypal is also accepted it probably wasn't for that seller so no other option. Didn't feel like going through it again on mistertao so my wallet is won't be getting any lighter.

Mistertao only shows the correct $15.74 when I bring it up. Should be around $20-22 after fees and shipping.

 

Alipay is what they all use mostly (secure CC portal). Very rare to see paypal for those agents anymore.

post #1974 of 7926
Me like ūüėć
post #1975 of 7926
Shot bigbargine a pm about the kz woody...snd bhazard ...what color of the holy serpent would you like ūüėě
post #1976 of 7926
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Shot bigbargine a pm about the kz woody...snd bhazard ...what color of the holy serpent would you like ūüėě

Gold.

Would love to see some KZ and SIDY stuff through Penon Audio.
post #1977 of 7926

bhazard,

 

if you have rooted the phone or has a custom recovery (e.g., TWRP) installed, I sincerely suggest you to try out this sound boost mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788

Not only does it increase the speaker volume, it also increases the headphone's volume.  

 

In essence, it permanently increases analog power amp gain by +5, instead of digital gain, so no distortion.

 

I love B3 pro with this mod without external dac/amp.

 

Sorry for the off-topic. 

post #1978 of 7926
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Mistertao only shows the correct $15.74 when I bring it up. Should be around $20-22 after fees and shipping.

 

Well, what I did was decide to get them to try them out and have another cable for my failing U10 cable. So, after first pay stage I am at $17.38. Let's hope the second stage shipping is actually better than what the calculator gave me and it is well below the previous price estimate :)

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Originally Posted by r2muchstuff View Post
 

My order from Penon Audio aka bestbargainsonline @ ebay; arrived today.

Havi B3 Pro V1 with Red Dot on the box.

Tested for working and all is good.  Sounds great right out of the box.

Giving them some play time, will listen seriously later.

Thanks all for outing these.

 

R


Glad that you receive it, mine will be arriving next week (bought from the same seller).

 

Please share your opinions about Havi B3.

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