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post #46 of 115

For me, the aesthetics of my system are EQUALLY important as the sound. All these different sized components, different colors, wires all over, make me crazy.

 

I want the system to LOOK as good as it sounds. Thanks goodness the Director is small, discreet, and nice looking next to Naim gear. 

post #47 of 115

Something else about Director...

 

I was listening to music as background (brushing my teeth, doing laundry, stuff like that) tonight and I could hear a more "realistic" piano tone in the songs I was listening to.  Not a holographic piano, because I wasn't sitting in the sweet-spot, but the rich-harmonics of a piano. There was no way that this could be heard with my other dacs (Explorer, Dragonfly). 

 

LA mitchell

post #48 of 115

What was the source material?  was it CD quality or lower?  If so then the Director does have a apodizing filter used in their upper end dacs which brings out a bit more out of those sources and upconverts to 24/96 where the filter noise is supposedly brought into the ultrasonic range.  Maybe that's what you were hearing?  The Explorer and Dragonfly don't have this.

post #49 of 115
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Originally Posted by Stil View Post
 

What was the source material?  was it CD quality or lower?  If so then the Director does have a apodizing filter used in their upper end dacs which brings out a bit more out of those sources and upconverts to 24/96 where the filter noise is supposedly brought into the ultrasonic range.  Maybe that's what you were hearing?  The Explorer and Dragonfly don't have this.

Hi Stil,

 

I'm very interested in finding out what that "famous" Meridian apodizing filter is supposed to sound like (doesn't it have to do with pre-ringing?)

 

I'm actually mostly listening to 320kpbs files and internet radio streams at this point. 

 

I'm starting to really appreciate the Director in my system now. I think it might be because I'm actually listening to the MUSIC, where as before I was trying to "hear" the dac.... and trying to answer the question "Did I really need to spend the money on this thing? Was it worth it? Am I glad I bought this? Does it look okay next to my amp? etc" lol lol lol

 

La Mitchell

post #50 of 115
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Hi Stil,

 

I'm very interested in finding out what that "famous" Meridian apodizing filter is supposed to sound like (doesn't it have to do with pre-ringing?)

 

I'm actually mostly listening to 320kpbs files and internet radio streams at this point. 

 

I'm starting to really appreciate the Director in my system now. I think it might be because I'm actually listening to the MUSIC, where as before I was trying to "hear" the dac.... and trying to answer the question "Did I really need to spend the money on this thing? Was it worth it? Am I glad I bought this? Does it look okay next to my amp? etc" lol lol lol

 

La Mitchell

Unfortunately, I don't think you can turn the filter on and off directly, unless I'm mistaken.  One way is to let your software upsample to 24bit/96khz without doing any actual filters.  that would prevent the apodizing filter from kicking in since it only kicks in on 16/44 and lower I think.

 

From my own personal observations, the filter does have a noticable effect on the music, especially lower bitrate stuff.  It seems to recover details that would be masked by noise, which I think has something to do with the removal of pre-ringing, or moving it beyond human hearing.  

 

I would just suggest you try it yourself, maybe try with your explorer vs. the director on the same source material.

post #51 of 115

iFi power supply....

 

 

uh oh... now that I've had the Director for a while, my curiosity is getting to me!

 

The thing is, I do NOT want to have a bunch of little gadgets all over the place. Damn, I might just return this Director and save for a better DAC...

 

or maybe I should just stop all this audiophile stuff and get something simple like a B&W A7 all-in-one....

 

:(

 

La Mitchell

post #52 of 115
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iFi power supply....

 

 

uh oh... now that I've had the Director for a while, my curiosity is getting to me!

 

The thing is, I do NOT want to have a bunch of little gadgets all over the place. Damn, I might just return this Director and save for a better DAC...

 

or maybe I should just stop all this audiophile stuff and get something simple like a B&W A7 all-in-one....

 

:(

 

La Mitchell

 

Disregard that last post... I'm listening to my system MACAIR > DIRECTOR > NAIM > FRITZ SPEAKERS

 

and it really is truly a beautifully rich, detailed, sweet sound...   

 

I guess having the mindset of "if I had to get rid of this setup, would I be sorry?" changed everything for me lol...

 

La mitchell

post #53 of 115
Thread Starter 

Being an audiophile is tinkering with new gadgets. You add, audition, return, etc. based on what your budget (and wife) allow!

 

What do you feel is missing from your current setup?

 

I personally wouldn't mess with things like cables, iFi power supplies, etc. I'd spend money on specific components. Starting with your source is a logical first step.

 

Some say that the true magic in DACs doesn't happen until over $2K...

 

Maybe you start with the Schiit Gungnir USB2 for $850.

Perhaps then the Teddy Pardo DAC-USB for $1500.

Then the Chord ChordetteHD for $1800.

Then the NAIM V1 for $2400. (Pairs best with your NAIM amp.)

Ayre QB-9 DSD or Auralic Vega or T+A DAC8 for $3250.

 

Etc.

post #54 of 115

Hey Scneller! Thanks for that above post.

 

Yeah, I guess I was looking for MAGIC in my dac... and there ISSSSS some magic in the Director Dac. The tone of it does sound good, I can really really really hear this in an obvious way when I hear the sounds of a PIANO.. so thick and resonant!

 

Hey, it's a good DAC.  

 

I think my problem at this point is that I have the view that high-end audio.... is really OVERPRICED in my opinion for what you get.

 

$700 for a DAC?  

 

Yeah, that would be a good deal if I listened to music 24 hours a day. But $700 could buy the new IPHONE6 or a REALLLLLLYYYY NIIIICCCCEEEE television.

 

So, not just to Meridian, but pretty much ALL audio products.... overpriced compared to what else you could buy with the money. Hope I didn't come across as negative because I don't mean to be :)  

 

La Mitchell

post #55 of 115

WHOAH!

 

 

It's almost like a totally different DAC now. 

 

I swapped the MacAir with a MacBookPro. Now this is good sound!  

 

I wouldn't want to try and label it a PERCENTAGE of better, because it just totally goes into what I think a piece of equipment like this (cost, brand-name, etc) should sound like.  Wow, I'm impressed.

 

It's like the singer (Diana Krall) I'm listening to is PRESENT in the room. 

 

Yes, I can hear more detail, yet it's MORE than just hearing more detail... it's like things are more REAL. 

 

And if this makes any sense: like there is more LIGHT in the music, I can "see" what's going on a whole lot better.

 

 

All from just changing to a more powerful laptop. 

 

La Mitchell

 

post #56 of 115
Thread Starter 

Strange that such a swap has such an impact.

 

I wonder how Apple's USB implementation differs between the two?

post #57 of 115
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Strange that such a swap has such an impact.

 

I wonder how Apple's USB implementation differs between the two?

I'm guessing the air and the pro have different USB power outputs.  On my Lenovo Carbon X1, which one USB port is "powered" for charging devices and the other isn't fully powered, the sound is significantly different between the two, especially if he's using USB (that will both send the audio signal + power the device).  In addition to the detail, things will probably also sound a little louder/fuller on the powered USB.  

post #58 of 115
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Originally Posted by Stil View Post
 

I'm guessing the air and the pro have different USB power outputs.  On my Lenovo Carbon X1, which one USB port is "powered" for charging devices and the other isn't fully powered, the sound is significantly different between the two, especially if he's using USB (that will both send the audio signal + power the device).  In addition to the detail, things will probably also sound a little louder/fuller on the powered USB.  

 

 

Wow, Stil, you NAILED the description that I was just getting ready to post...

 

it is FULLER for sure!  So much BETTER. I just let it play for a few hours tonight and tried not to pay to much attention to it, and it is completely just BETTER sounding.  

 

No use in trying to use adjectives, it just is a more COMPLETE and as Still says... FULLER sound... the bass is better, the highs are sweeter, everything is just GOOD. Makes me VERY CURIOUS as to what that $1200 Meridian power supply would sound like hooked up to it. The thing is, I would hate to have all those little different size boxes, gadgets with wires all over the place.

 

La Mitchell

post #59 of 115
Thread Starter 
My Meridian (arriving Saturday) will be connected to a HTPC. I have powered USB3 ports (can charge when the PC is off) and USB2 ports (don't charge when off). Which to use?
post #60 of 115

Hi guys, I am new here. 

 

La Mitchell are you still using 320kpbs/radio as a source? 

If yes, when you switch to foobar + flac (or even cd audio from you laptop) you will have a difference like switching from dragonfly to explorer. Try Adele, Someone Like you. 320kps vs Flac/CD. 

I can not listen to mp3 anymore. Lack of dynamic and detail is the biggest problem with low bit rate files. 

I have two systems at home, but one dac at the moment. PC -> SupraUsb -> Director -> Adam A7X and Sony Vaio -> SupraUsb -> Director -> Roksan caspian m2 -> Monitor Audio Rx6. 

Funny thing. With PC I have no background noise, with laptop I have (so I have to use Laptop on battery for music).

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