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post #16 of 38
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Originally Posted by Antonive View Post
 

Anyway, a card that has 7.1 surround and fits best for my 558 is? Please an exact number, I'm a complete noob when it comes to sound cards.

Apologies for my English and you're time.

Sound cards may come with 5.1 (6-channel) speaker outputs, but speaker outputs may not limit be a limiting factor for headphones.

 

The Xonar DG & DGX ($30-$40) are a great value for what you get.

the Creative Sound Blaster Z, ($95), is the best for around $100.

post #17 of 38

Don't mean to highjack this thread but I'm also in a similar situation so I thought I would ask in this thread instead of starting a new one. I'm going to be upgrading my PC in a month or so so I'm just getting my parts list together and I started thinking about a sound card. Never used one before so I don't know if its worth it to get one or not. Is the on board sound on some of the higher end motherboards like the asus z87 sabertooth good enough? I should mention I'm using this computer for both gaming and listening to music and I dont want to spend more than 50 dollars on a sound card. Oh and I don't have any speakers for the pc I would be using my Heir 4Ai's. 

post #18 of 38
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Originally Posted by zoso0632 View Post

Don't mean to highjack this thread but I'm also in a similar situation so I thought I would ask in this thread instead of starting a new one. I'm going to be upgrading my PC in a month or so so I'm just getting my parts list together and I started thinking about a sound card. Never used one before so I don't know if its worth it to get one or not. Is the on board sound on some of the higher end motherboards like the asus z87 sabertooth good enough? I should mention I'm using this computer for both gaming and listening to music and I dont want to spend more than 50 dollars on a sound card. Oh and I don't have any speakers for the pc I would be using my Heir 4Ai's. 

So you are thinking of buying a $250 motherboard--which most people would not get any noticeable performance benefit over a board 2/3 or 1/2 that price--and you want to cheap out on a $50 sound card? LOL
post #19 of 38
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


So you are thinking of buying a $250 motherboard--which most people would not get any noticeable performance benefit over a board 2/3 or 1/2 that price--and you want to cheap out on a $50 sound card? LOL

 

Yes when worded like that it makes me sound like a fool lol but its important to not cheap out on a motherboard because the better board gives you much more reliability, better warranty, and overclocking / fan control features than if you get a cheaper board. I know this from experience because my first computer build I did get the cheap motherboard. Now that I'm upgrading it I won't make the same mistake. The sound card is more of an after thought as my budget is already stretched as it is so I can't afford to spent much more than that on a sound card. I'm simply asking if I get this $50 or under sound card will it benefit me much and if so how?

post #20 of 38
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Originally Posted by zoso0632 View Post
 

Don't mean to highjack this thread but I'm also in a similar situation so I thought I would ask in this thread instead of starting a new one. I'm going to be upgrading my PC in a month or so so I'm just getting my parts list together and I started thinking about a sound card. Never used one before so I don't know if its worth it to get one or not. Is the on board sound on some of the higher end motherboards like the asus z87 sabertooth good enough? I should mention I'm using this computer for both gaming and listening to music and I don't want to spend more than 50 dollars on a sound card. Oh and I don't have any speakers for the PC I would be using my Heir 4Ai's. 

I would say to budget for the Creative Sound Blaster Z (SB1500), $95, and spend the rest on a motherboard.

post #21 of 38
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

I would say to budget for the Creative Sound Blaster Z (SB1500), $95, and spend the rest on a motherboard.

 

Ok thanks for the advice! I should say that right now I do the majority of my listening on my iPhone and macbook pro and from what I have heard apple puts in really good DAC's in there products. Do you think with this sound card I would get the same or better audio quality than with my macbook now? 

post #22 of 38
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Originally Posted by zoso0632 View Post
 

 

Ok thanks for the advice! I should say that right now I do the majority of my listening on my iPhone and Macbook pro and from what I have heard apple puts in really good DAC's in there products. Do you think with this sound card I would get the same or better audio quality than with my Macbook now? 

The Sound Blaster Z comes with the CS4398, which I'm going to guess (big guess) is a better DAC chip then you will find in an Apple product.

I would assume Mac puts better DAC chips in their computer's compared to a Win PC motherboard.

but I would guess Apple could put a DAC chip in their computers that costs less the the CS4398 and still have good enough audio quality for the average Mac user (a lot of guessing).

 

You might consider getting an external DAC/Amp that can be used with PCs and Macs,

if you play music a fair amount from your Mac?

post #23 of 38
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

The Sound Blaster Z comes with the CS4398, which I'm going to guess (big guess) is a better DAC chip then you will find in an Apple product.

I would assume Mac puts better DAC chips in their computer's compared to a Win PC motherboard.

but I would guess Apple could put a DAC chip in their computers that costs less the the CS4398 and still have good enough audio quality for the average Mac user (a lot of guessing).

 

You might consider getting an external DAC/Amp that can be used with PCs and Macs,

if you play music a fair amount from your Mac?

 

Ok great! I just wanted to make sure. Yeah that could be an option too. I'm pretty new to this stuff so I don't know about all of the products. Would the external DAC/Amp do pretty much the same thing that a sound card would just externally? I'm thinking about trading my heir 4ai's for a over the ear headphone that would probably need an amp so this might be a smarter choice since then I could use it on my mac or pc if need be. Are there any DAC/Amps that you recommend? 

post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by zoso0632 View Post

Yes when worded like that it makes me sound like a fool lol but its important to not cheap out on a motherboard because the better board gives you much more reliability, better warranty, and overclocking / fan control features than if you get a cheaper board. I know this from experience because my first computer build I did get the cheap motherboard. Now that I'm upgrading it I won't make the same mistake. The sound card is more of an after thought as my budget is already stretched as it is so I can't afford to spent much more than that on a sound card. I'm simply asking if I get this $50 or under sound card will it benefit me much and if so how?

I've been building computers since the Pentium MMX days. One doesn't have to buy a top end expensive board to have a stable, reliable board, and you can get the same warranty on a $60 Asus motherboard. Learn to do your research better, and you won't have to spend that much.

On the other hand, there are some good sound improvement gains in spending more than $50 on a sound card.
post #25 of 38
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Originally Posted by zoso0632 View Post
 

 

Ok great! I just wanted to make sure. Yeah that could be an option too. I'm pretty new to this stuff so I don't know about all of the products. Would the external DAC/Amp do pretty much the same thing that a sound card would just externally? I'm thinking about trading my heir 4ai's for a over the ear headphone that would probably need an amp so this might be a smarter choice since then I could use it on my mac or pc if need be. Are there any DAC/Amps that you recommend? 

With a huge budget, there would be a lot of external DAC/Amps to recommend.

Get something with a S/PDIF optical input, makes it easy to work with on-board sound card or an add-on internal sound card.

 

Like $175 to $250 should get you something that I think anyone would be happy with.

post #26 of 38
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


I've been building computers since the Pentium MMX days. One doesn't have to buy a top end expensive board to have a stable, reliable board, and you can get the same warranty on a $60 Asus motherboard. Learn to do your research better, and you won't have to spend that much.

On the other hand, there are some good sound improvement gains in spending more than $50 on a sound card.

 

I guess I've just had a bad experience with a cheaper board and wanted to get a better board for my next build. Its not fair to generalize cheaper boards by saying that because I'm sure you can get a decent cheaper board that performs well for a long time but in the end you get what you pay for. The more expensive boards have features that the cheaper boards don't have. The sabertooth does offer a 5 year warranty as opposed to the 2-3 year warranty the other Asus boards have and they do use higher quality capacitors and components on the board as well. Thanks for the advice on the sound card. Maybe I can liquidate some things and splurge a bit for audio on this build. 

post #27 of 38
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

With a huge budget, there would be a lot of external DAC/Amps to recommend.

Get something with a S/PDIF optical input, makes it easy to work with on-board sound card or an add-on internal sound card.

 

Like $175 to $250 should get you something that I think anyone would be happy with.

 

Ok, Thanks for your help! :) For that price I might just wait until christmas and see what I have to work with. In the meantime I'll start looking into them some more. 

post #28 of 38
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Originally Posted by zoso0632 View Post
 

 

I guess I've just had a bad experience with a cheaper board and wanted to get a better board for my next build. Its not fair to generalize cheaper boards by saying that because I'm sure you can get a decent cheaper board that performs well for a long time but in the end you get what you pay for. The more expensive boards have features that the cheaper boards don't have. The sabertooth does offer a 5 year warranty as opposed to the 2-3 year warranty the other Asus boards have and they do use higher quality capacitors and components on the board as well. Thanks for the advice on the sound card. Maybe I can liquidate some things and splurge a bit for audio on this build. 

Me personally, I like buying the cheaper motherboards, I figure if a motherboard has a "problem", you have to box it up, pay to ship it back and not be able to use your computer, there is also the chance the manufacture finds nothing wrong with your board and sends it back.

A buddy had his board shipped back and forth several times, I was obvious the board was not working, but they shipped it back to him anyway, and it was by a very well respected motherboard manufacture.

 

The day a motherboard goes bad, I just buy a replacement (something on sale) by the afternoon.

but that's just.

post #29 of 38
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Originally Posted by zoso0632 View Post

I guess I've just had a bad experience with a cheaper board and wanted to get a better board for my next build. Its not fair to generalize cheaper boards by saying that because I'm sure you can get a decent cheaper board that performs well for a long time but in the end you get what you pay for. The more expensive boards have features that the cheaper boards don't have. The sabertooth does offer a 5 year warranty as opposed to the 2-3 year warranty the other Asus boards have and they do use higher quality capacitors and components on the board as well. Thanks for the advice on the sound card. Maybe I can liquidate some things and splurge a bit for audio on this build. 

Yes. You get what you pay for with a Lexus, but that doesn't mean you need one. wink.gif

I didn't realize it had a five year warranty. But it's a mistake to say that the most expensive boards are necessarily more stable and reliable. Not true for normal use. I've never experienced board failures other than one DOA, so 3 year and 5 year is all the same to me. You'll find out eventually that past an initial burn-in period, a lot of electronics--motherboards, sound cards, much audio equipment--tend to last for a good many years without a problem unless a flawed design, poor ventilation/cooling of the electronics, or really cheap components. Most PC manufacturers do not use high end boards (and often cheap ones), and the their mid-tier models are typically very reliable in terms of motherboards. Unless you happened to buy from Dell during 2003-2005 wink.gif
post #30 of 38
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

Me personally, I like buying the cheaper motherboards, I figure if a motherboard has a "problem", you have to box it up, pay to ship it back and not be able to use your computer, there is also the chance the manufacture finds nothing wrong with your board and sends it back.

A buddy had his board shipped back and forth several times, I was obvious the board was not working, but they shipped it back to him anyway, and it was by a very well respected motherboard manufacture.

 

The day a motherboard goes bad, I just buy a replacement (something on sale) by the afternoon.

but that's just.

 

Yeah I probably won't be getting the sabertooth. How much do you usually spend on the motherboard? I think replacing any electronics like that is a real pain. I once had to ship back a xbox 360 because it had broken and they tested it and everything and decided they needed to send me a new one back. So they said they sent me a new one back and when I got the package they had sent me the broken one I had sent them. Anyways after verifying the serial numbers they realized it was the same one so I had to send it back to them yet another time so they could send me a new one. 

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