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post #61 of 139
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Originally Posted by laon View Post
 

 

I've read the post in this thread even before I posted here but have no desire to read all that thread and I know that you and other had those bug but you can't claim that OP is wrong because his issue isn't exactly like you. I don't see the logic.

 

The logic I'm running off is the majority of members experiencing this bug the same as I am.

I can understand it would be very easy to describe the bug as "it shoots to full volume or it blew my brains out" but I have no need to believe the OP's description because he is in the minority, when the majority of peoples opinions relate to this bug the same as me. When I study or research something I look for repetition, and the repetition I see on this bug leans in my descriptions favour which also mirror my personal experience with the issue.  It may very well be a separate bug, I am not counting that out completely, however lean much more towards an error in the way OP has described it, again due to the majority of posts I've read surrounding the issue.


Edited by H20Fidelity - 10/1/13 at 11:17pm
post #62 of 139
If we have to start a new thread for each of dx50 bugs, we better create a sub-forum for the same...

First batch owner and still no regret with the purchase.
post #63 of 139
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

If we have to start a new thread for each of dx50 bugs, we better create a sub-forum for the same...

First batch owner and still no regret with the purchase.

 

What I want to know is if anyone's experienced the bug since updating to v1.2. I see some work was done to the volume section.

I have asked in the bug thread if anyone had it occur since, no-one yet has mentioned it.

(very early days though considering how random it occurs)


Edited by H20Fidelity - 10/1/13 at 11:03pm
post #64 of 139
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


Nice post.

If that kind of code would have to be removed, I'm thinking corporate espionage or a vindictive coder. very_evil_smiley.gif

Another poster here earlier said it was indeed gradual, but quick. That jives with the failsafe you mentioned.

 

Thanks.  This line of text really bothers me from the original post.

 "Hardware defects - the player has parts loosely put together. It creaks when I hold down the bottom part of the player, like if the pieces were coming loose."

 

Does anyone else have these problems?  My player doesn't have any of this, mine feels very solid, no creaking, nothing feels loose.  This line indicates a drop or damage somewhere along the line, shipping damage or just a poorly put together unit.  If the user hadn't said this, I'd feel a bit afraid.  Since he is the only person to claim an instant jump from low to high volume, despite the Droid 4.0 platforms stock and hard coded fail safe for such a thing to occur, as well as Ibasso incremental volume control design, this is not a reason to avoid the player entirely. ( this equates to double protection against an instantaneous jump to maximum volume by the way )  This is clearly an isolated incident in my opinion.  Now, that doesn't mean everyone needs to run out and buy one because the player is in fact all hunky dory.  It isn't. There are still a inappropriate and even silly amount of bugs that shouldn't exist.  The DX-50 is by far the buggiest thing I have come across in many years and shipping the units out on the stock 1.0 firmware that basically rendered the unit unusable is absolutely unacceptable.  I am ready to sacrifice my DX-50 to the Audio Volcano Gods at the moment...I can't get my pc to recognize the player without factory resetting.  After I remove the unit from the usb cable, it won't recognize again unless i perform yet another factory reset.  I mean...come on now, this is absolute nonsense at this point but I am thankful iBasso is at least trying to fix things asap.  

 

Despite that, the player still sounds fantastic.  Lots of bugs that make me want to burn it, but the sound quality and hardware is of an excellent quality and I think it is worth waiting for the next few updates that are needed to fix all the major issues.   This is a really unique situation for reviewers, iBasso pushed this out way too early and before any beta testing was done.  Even after multiple updates the player is still extremely buggy I needed to pull the battery only once after the player refused to shut down and would loop the boot up screen.  Thankfully, so far only one battery pull was needed.  Stress.


Edited by 24Bit - 10/2/13 at 1:32am
post #65 of 139

Would it even pass testing by an EU governing body?

post #66 of 139

I have no experience with the player but would be surprised if it operated in an Android shell. 

post #67 of 139

Unless I'm mistaken the DX50 is using android. 

post #68 of 139
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Let me say this again. NO SMALL BOUTIQUE COMPANY CAN HAVE THE R&D RESOURCES OF AN APPLE OR SONY. It's just not economically possible. If stuff like this gets you wired up, do not buy products from small companies, at least as an early adopter.

 

Originally Posted by laon View Post
 

It's good with that kind of excuse they can sell half assed products like these, at least to really patience people like the lots here and some poor unsuspecting one, but I got the feeling that if they really want to success they got to change that.

 

 

 

OK, sigh... Let's try again. NO SMALL BOUTIQUE COMPANY CAN HAVE THE R&D RESOURCES OF AN APPLE OR SONY. This is not an excuse, it is good old-fashioned economic reality. Sorry, but that's how it is.

 

Now, if you are worth say, a few hundred million dollars and want to bankroll a company and build a DAP without regard to ROI, go right ahead. I will pull for you and when your device comes out flawlessly (assuming it does) I will praise you to the skys. But when it costs a few thousand dollars to try and break even on the project, it may be a bit of a hard sell. The DX-50 is $240. An iPod classic 160 GB Black (7th Generation) is $250 and is limited in function compaired to the Ibasso (no removable battery, no hi-rez, no expandable memory, limited support for non-Apple music files and arguably lower sound quality). Of course, the DX-50 has it's shortcomings too, so ya pays your money and takes yer cherse, as we say in NYC...

 

Kevin


Edited by k3oxkjo - 10/2/13 at 2:33pm
post #69 of 139
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Originally Posted by 24Bit View Post
 

 

Thanks.  This line of text really bothers me from the original post.

 "Hardware defects - the player has parts loosely put together. It creaks when I hold down the bottom part of the player, like if the pieces were coming loose."

 

Does anyone else have these problems?  My player doesn't have any of this, mine feels very solid, no creaking, nothing feels loose.  This line indicates a drop or damage somewhere along the line, shipping damage or just a poorly put together unit.  If the user hadn't said this, I'd feel a bit afraid.  Since he is the only person to claim an instant jump from low to high volume, despite the Droid 4.0 platforms stock and hard coded fail safe for such a thing to occur, as well as Ibasso incremental volume control design, this is not a reason to avoid the player entirely. ( this equates to double protection against an instantaneous jump to maximum volume by the way )  This is clearly an isolated incident in my opinion.  Now, that doesn't mean everyone needs to run out and buy one because the player is in fact all hunky dory.  It isn't. There are still a inappropriate and even silly amount of bugs that shouldn't exist.  The DX-50 is by far the buggiest thing I have come across in many years and shipping the units out on the stock 1.0 firmware that basically rendered the unit unusable is absolutely unacceptable.  I am ready to sacrifice my DX-50 to the Audio Volcano Gods at the moment...I can't get my pc to recognize the player without factory resetting.  After I remove the unit from the usb cable, it won't recognize again unless i perform yet another factory reset.  I mean...come on now, this is absolute nonsense at this point but I am thankful iBasso is at least trying to fix things asap.

 

Despite that, the player still sounds fantastic.  Lots of bugs that make me want to burn it, but the sound quality and hardware is of an excellent quality and I think it is worth waiting for the next few updates that are needed to fix all the major issues.   This is a really unique situation for reviewers, iBasso pushed this out way too early and before any beta testing was done.  Even after multiple updates the player is still extremely buggy I needed to pull the battery only once after the player refused to shut down and would loop the boot up screen.  Thankfully, so far only one battery pull was needed.  Stress.

 

 

Here's what I would like to know:

 

a) How many people actually have verifiably had the "fade to maximum volume" issue? And conversely, how many have not?

b) How many people have trouble with the computer recognizing the DX-50? I had this until I realized you have to turn the unit on before you plug it into the USB port. Cockpit error on my part.

c) How many people have had basically minimally buggy performance out of the DX-50? This has been my experience (if you eliminate my learning curve as to how the unit works. A manual, even an e-manual, would be nice. Nudge, nudge Ibasso...).

 

Kevin

post #70 of 139
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Originally Posted by k3oxkjo View Post
 

 

 

Here's what I would like to know:

 

a) How many people actually have verifiably had the "fade to maximum volume" issue? And conversely, how many have not?

b) How many people have trouble with the computer recognizing the DX-50? I had this until I realized you have to turn the unit on before you plug it into the USB port. Cockpit error on my part.

c) How many people have had basically minimally buggy performance out of the DX-50? This has been my experience (if you eliminate my learning curve as to how the unit works. A manual, even an e-manual, would be nice. Nudge, nudge Ibasso...).

 

Kevin

a) No

b) No

c) Yes

post #71 of 139
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Originally Posted by k3oxkjo View Post
 

 

 

Here's what I would like to know:

 

a) How many people actually have verifiably had the "fade to maximum volume" issue? And conversely, how many have not?

b) How many people have trouble with the computer recognizing the DX-50? I had this until I realized you have to turn the unit on before you plug it into the USB port. Cockpit error on my part.

c) How many people have had basically minimally buggy performance out of the DX-50? This has been my experience (if you eliminate my learning curve as to how the unit works. A manual, even an e-manual, would be nice. Nudge, nudge Ibasso...).

 

Kevin

 

In the 6 hours i've been using my DX50...:

a) nope. been trying to replicate it intentionally (change tracks (24bit, 96khz), while changing volume). haven't encountered it

b) nope, been detecting fine

c) yup, don't need a manual, this thing is straightforward. you'd need a manual for the button layout of the X3 before you need one to use this player =P

post #72 of 139
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Originally Posted by k3oxkjo View Post
 

 

 

Here's what I would like to know:

 

a) How many people actually have verifiably had the "fade to maximum volume" issue? And conversely, how many have not?

b) How many people have trouble with the computer recognizing the DX-50? I had this until I realized you have to turn the unit on before you plug it into the USB port. Cockpit error on my part.

c) How many people have had basically minimally buggy performance out of the DX-50? This has been my experience (if you eliminate my learning curve as to how the unit works. A manual, even an e-manual, would be nice. Nudge, nudge Ibasso...).

 

Kevin

 

a: Had the opposite on 1.12 Firmware batch 2 player - faded from 190to zero. I then thought it being me touching volume down at the same time I fidlled with the lock player button. Never experienced it again.

 

b: None, as long as it is powered, or you power it on - using Win7 64 bit.

 

c: helluva buggy thing. The scan not working. A manual for describing how to optimize files and cards for optimally enjoying the iBasso would be great. Also, fix the touchscreen! Edit note: The scan may in all fairness in my case be partly because the MicroSD card is faulty!


Edited by Foolwolf - 10/3/13 at 11:14pm
post #73 of 139
I had the volume thing happen to me several times but it hasn't occurred since 1.2.
post #74 of 139

I thank these issues will be resolved.

$239 i can live with the bugs still better than an Ipod.

If you don't want to deal with the issues of the DX50 buy the DX100.

post #75 of 139

a) How many people actually have verifiably had the "fade to maximum volume" issue? And conversely, how many have not?

b) How many people have trouble with the computer recognizing the DX-50? I had this until I realized you have to turn the unit on before you plug it into the USB port. Cockpit error on my part.

c) How many people have had basically minimally buggy performance out of the DX-50? This has been my experience (if you eliminate my learning curve as to how the unit works. A manual, even an e-manual, would be nice. Nudge, nudge Ibasso...).

 

a) dunno - but it did affect me...it didnt jump instantly to 255....it was like the volume button was stuck and the volume just kept going up fairly quickly....bit of a shock and   took me a few seconds to realize it wasn't responding and pull the IEMs out.

 

b) Nope - does take a minute or so for Windows to do its stuff and install the rockchip drivers

 

c) Buggy performance mainly related to scanning the SDCard - but I now think that is down to the formatting of my card.

Screen is way too sensitive to the touch and when scrolling music, I end up inadvertently playing a track.

Other than those, no show stopping bugs.


Edited by kryten123 - 10/3/13 at 7:39am
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