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Punchy headphones with high fidelity, mostly electronic music, also some music production.

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Hello!

 

I currently own a Burson The Conductor and Denon AH-D2000 & Audeze LCD-2 headphones. 

90% of the time I listen to electronics music, especially electronic dance music.

With this genre I  favor the Denon AH-D2000, id say its like 65/35 in favor of the Denon.

However, the LCD-2's extremly good soundstage and resolution is just so good that I'd love to have something similar for this genre, but with more punchy/impact in the bass.

I was listening at some Denon AH-D7100 at a local store today, and they did sound better then the AH-D2000, but again, the LCD-2s just sound so amazing. 

 

So is there any headphone which are similar to LCD-2, but with more punchy bass and fun factor for that genre?

 

Thanks

Best Regards

Kung Absolut 


Edited by KungAbsolut - 9/28/13 at 9:59am
post #2 of 20

There are no planar-magnetic headphones that are seriously bassy.

If you like your Denon D2000, you'll love the Fostex TH-600 or TH-900.

 

Fostex made the drivers that went into your D2000, and put the next generation of that driver tech into their flagship models. 

post #3 of 20
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I dont necessarly want something thats really bassy. Most importent thing is that it got that punch/impact sound which is really fun, especially for EDM. Will the Fostex give that? 

Ive been reading that Hifiman He-500 got a really tight and impactful bass, but I dont know if its better then Denon/Fostex's punch

post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by KungAbsolut View Post
 

I dont necessarly want something thats really bassy. Most importent thing is that it got that punch/impact sound which is really fun, especially for EDM. Will the Fostex give that? 

Ive been reading that Hifiman He-500 got a really tight and impactful bass, but I dont know if its better then Denon/Fostex's punch

 

Actually if your looking for something on the side of neutral with DEEP punchy bass the HE 4 and HE 5XX models should work nicely for you! The HE 4 is like an HE 6 [needs a ton of power] but only costs like $350 if u can find it [it's like a super duper Dt 880 apprently] 

 

I'd imagine they would b very nice! I also really enjoy my HE 400 for EDM. Although it's not entirely as neutral as the HE 4 or HE 5xx variants 

post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

Actually if your looking for something on the side of neutral with DEEP punchy bass the HE 4 and HE 5XX models should work nicely for you! The HE 4 is like an HE 6 [needs a ton of power] but only costs like $350 if u can find it [it's like a super duper Dt 880 apprently] 

 

I'd imagine they would b very nice! I also really enjoy my HE 400 for EDM. Although it's not entirely as neutral as the HE 4 or HE 5xx variants 

 

I think it will be a struggle to get hold of the HE 4.

But a stereo amplifier for HE-500 or HE-6, wouldent that be farly cheap?

Cheaper then a dedicated headphone amplifer for them (atleast for HE-6)?

post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by KungAbsolut View Post
 

 

I think it will be a struggle to get hold of the HE 4.

But a stereo amplifier for HE-500 or HE-6, wouldent that be farly cheap?

Cheaper then a dedicated headphone amplifer for them (atleast for HE-6)?

 

the EMotiva Mini X is the $200 amp of choice to drive Hifiman Orthos, I'm told of many HE 6 and HE 500 owners that enjoy the Mini x, but you'd need to a speaker tap cable for ur hfiman cans 

post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 

Hmm... 

Is there any easier obtainable stereo amplifiers for HE-6?

How much more punch will the HE 6 give over HE-500? 

post #8 of 20

Heya,

 

Other Orthos are not going to provide a punchier or deeper bass than the LCD2. I've tested extensively between it and Hifiman's offerings. They're very similar, but the LCD2 manages to dig a little deeper and slam a touch harder.

 

I suggest you just look for another way to power your LCD2. You're currently feeding it less than 1 watt at it's impedance. Get something that provides 2+ watts into 50ohms and check the difference, you'll hear more impact and meat. Speaker amps are the easy and inexpensive way to do this. Otherwise, seek out something by Audio GD like the 11.32 or 15.32, or even go to their balanced offerings like the 10-SE2 for even more power and the touch of quality from being balanced.

 

Bottom line is, you don't need more headphones for this.

 

Very best,

post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post
 

Heya,

 

Other Orthos are not going to provide a punchier or deeper bass than the LCD2. I've tested extensively between it and Hifiman's offerings. They're very similar, but the LCD2 manages to dig a little deeper and slam a touch harder.

 

I suggest you just look for another way to power your LCD2. You're currently feeding it less than 1 watt at it's impedance. Get something that provides 2+ watts into 50ohms and check the difference, you'll hear more impact and meat. Speaker amps are the easy and inexpensive way to do this. Otherwise, seek out something by Audio GD like the 11.32 or 15.32, or even go to their balanced offerings like the 10-SE2 for even more power and the touch of quality from being balanced.

 

Bottom line is, you don't need more headphones for this.

 

Very best,

 

I dont really mind if its Orthos or not as long as they sound clean but have that punchy bass.

 

Interesting, can really an amplifier provide something which I currently find pretty much non existent with the current setup? 

Its pretty much zero "donk donk donk" from kick drums with my current setup. 

post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by KungAbsolut View Post
 

 

I dont really mind if its Orthos or not as long as they sound clean but have that punchy bass.

 

Interesting, can really an amplifier provide something which I currently find pretty much non existent with the current setup? 

Its pretty much zero "donk donk donk" from kick drums with my current setup. 

 

Yeap.

 

That's because you're under powering your planar magnetic. The quality of The Conductor is very good. But it's power output is limited. It's 4 watts at 8ohms. Now project forward to the 50ohm LCD2. You're not even feeding it a watt.

 

From my own experience with these headphones, when they are given greater than 1 watt, and especially the 2+ watt range, they start sounding rather different, a lot more impact, more dynamics, but that's just my experience. When I went to a 50 watt speaker amp, I never looked back to headphone amps regarding planar magnetics, the experience is quite different, and I much prefer the sound on a speaker amp with some serious current throughput. So I had my headphones recabled to allow for use with speaker taps on such an amp.

 

Very best,

post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post
 

 

Yeap.

 

That's because you're under powering your planar magnetic. The quality of The Conductor is very good. But it's power output is limited. It's 4 watts at 8ohms. Now project forward to the 50ohm LCD2. You're not even feeding it a watt.

 

From my own experience with these headphones, when they are given greater than 1 watt, and especially the 2+ watt range, they start sounding rather different, a lot more impact, more dynamics, but that's just my experience. When I went to a 50 watt speaker amp, I never looked back to headphone amps regarding planar magnetics, the experience is quite different, and I much prefer the sound on a speaker amp with some serious current throughput. So I had my headphones recabled to allow for use with speaker taps on such an amp.

 

Very best,

 

Oh cool, thats pretty interesting.

 

Which other amplifiers would you recommend other then Audio GD?

Am a bit sceptical to chinese products, especially when I have to import it. 

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 

Schiit Mjolnir delivers 5W @ 50ohms, is that suffiecent enough to maybe fix the this? 

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by KungAbsolut View Post
 

 

Oh cool, thats pretty interesting.

 

Which other amplifiers would you recommend other then Audio GD?

Am a bit sceptical to chinese products, especially when I have to import it. 

 

Don't be KingWa is not some Chinnese sweat Shop. The guy literally lives to make amps, most of which are idea's he get's from his customers! Not to mention mine was built and shipped to me in under a week! I'm serious too, it took about 4 days for the amp to arrive to me from china :O 

 

So take my word KingWa is legit. Feel free as well to ask him any questions as well! 

post #14 of 20

+1 on the Fostex. I find the synergy between my Soloist  and the TH900 to be excellent. It is not super bassy though, so ymmv.

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 

Schiit Mjolnir + Buffalo DAC or Audio GD NFB-10.33, NFB-10ES3 or any other audio GD? 

I like how Audio GD have both single ended and XLR so its more versatile? 

I did a quick read were some say the Mjolnir might have better SQ? 

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