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Just wanted to get some input on this weird problem I just came up with. I just got a new audio cd. When I put it in the dvd/cd transport in my pc it doesn't see the cd. It isn't any specific software, nothing can see it. I can put a different cd in and it plays just fine. Now for the odd part, I can take that same cd that my PC can't even see and play it in my cd player without any trouble at all, it plays perfectly. Do I need to get a new DVD/CD drive for my computer? Do they have some new strange copy protection so music cd's will only play in music cd players and not computers? I have never ran into a problem like this before.

post #2 of 5

Some ideas here that I found in another thread..

"Which audio CD's are you trying to play? Are they original or CD-R's?. If they're CD-R's try with an original disc instead. CD-R's work slightly different to original discs and can accentuate the issue when the drives CD laser is on its way out.

Still no joy? Ok now it's a good idea to look at what you were playing before your CD drive stopped working. There are a number of discs out there that are "protected" to stop you copying them. Normally there is a small logo somewhere on the disc that states "Copy protected - This disc might not play in a computer and some car CD systems". If the discs you are trying to play is one of these then this could be your problem - the logo by the way is very small and sometimes doesn't even have the "the disc..." bit or the copy protected bit on it, sometimes it's just a picture of a CD with a hand over the top of it pinching at the disc and a line crossing it out, I've also seen the following logo on some discs -http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/cc.jpg. If the disc is one of these (there are a lot of them around), this could also be what is preventing your drive from playing it, especially if the laser is on it's way out it will be more prone to the copy protection method.

Then finally there is also the good old Sony rootkit that stops your CD player in your computer playing most music CD's. It alters Windows to stop you playing or ripping music from most CD's (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal) it was put on to some Sony BMG CD's in 2005 all of which were recalled due to the problems and vulnerabilities this opened up to customers. However despite Sony's mass recall of these discs there is a high chance there is still a few lying around which have been owned by people who never heard of the problem, or didn't use the CD's in the PC at the time and weren't affected. The only problem with this is that when people start giving these CD's to charity shops or selling them at car boot sales you open up the problem then of someone else buying the disc and installing the Sony rootkit onto their PC. 

To check if you have the Sony rootkit on your computer and to remove it you can go to the following Sony website for a their removal tool

http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html

With all the messing around the companies are doing trying to protect the CD format now I don't trust the CD format myself anymore and buy all my CD's on MP3 from Amazon, at least I know that they are all fully DRM free, and I can burn them quite safely onto my own CD's and keep backups of them on my PC and not have to worry about the companies devious methods to protect their property and upset their customers."

 

 

Let us know if you get to the bottom of it.

post #3 of 5
I've occasionally seen where a CD wouldn't play on my laptop or computer vs my standalone CD/DVD player or on another device. Very rare but it does happen.

Instead of worrying about getting a different CD drive, why not get a friend to rip that CD to flac for you? (or otherwise find a flac version of the album) Then you'd have a perfect digital copy to play on your computer smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

I've occasionally seen where a CD wouldn't play on my laptop or computer vs my standalone CD/DVD player or on another device. Very rare but it does happen.

Instead of worrying about getting a different CD drive, why not get a friend to rip that CD to flac for you? (or otherwise find a flac version of the album) Then you'd have a perfect digital copy to play on your computer smily_headphones1.gif

Yeah if it is available I could certainly do that. I was mostly just curious why this is happening because, as I said, I have never had this happen before and it is just 1 cd, I have ripped my entire library to my HD without a single problem, until now. Even now I can take any other cd I have and play it just fine on my computer, except that one.

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Originally Posted by Ari33 View Post
 

Some ideas here that I found in another thread..

"Which audio CD's are you trying to play? Are they original or CD-R's?. If they're CD-R's try with an original disc instead. CD-R's work slightly different to original discs and can accentuate the issue when the drives CD laser is on its way out.

Still no joy? Ok now it's a good idea to look at what you were playing before your CD drive stopped working. There are a number of discs out there that are "protected" to stop you copying them. Normally there is a small logo somewhere on the disc that states "Copy protected - This disc might not play in a computer and some car CD systems". If the discs you are trying to play is one of these then this could be your problem - the logo by the way is very small and sometimes doesn't even have the "the disc..." bit or the copy protected bit on it, sometimes it's just a picture of a CD with a hand over the top of it pinching at the disc and a line crossing it out, I've also seen the following logo on some discs -http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/cc.jpg. If the disc is one of these (there are a lot of them around), this could also be what is preventing your drive from playing it, especially if the laser is on it's way out it will be more prone to the copy protection method.

Then finally there is also the good old Sony rootkit that stops your CD player in your computer playing most music CD's. It alters Windows to stop you playing or ripping music from most CD's (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal) it was put on to some Sony BMG CD's in 2005 all of which were recalled due to the problems and vulnerabilities this opened up to customers. However despite Sony's mass recall of these discs there is a high chance there is still a few lying around which have been owned by people who never heard of the problem, or didn't use the CD's in the PC at the time and weren't affected. The only problem with this is that when people start giving these CD's to charity shops or selling them at car boot sales you open up the problem then of someone else buying the disc and installing the Sony rootkit onto their PC. 

To check if you have the Sony rootkit on your computer and to remove it you can go to the following Sony website for a their removal tool

http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html

With all the messing around the companies are doing trying to protect the CD format now I don't trust the CD format myself anymore and buy all my CD's on MP3 from Amazon, at least I know that they are all fully DRM free, and I can burn them quite safely onto my own CD's and keep backups of them on my PC and not have to worry about the companies devious methods to protect their property and upset their customers."

 

 

Let us know if you get to the bottom of it.

 

 

It isn't a copy, it is a brand new Judy Collins cd on the Elektra Label. I am wondering if it has something to do with the artwork on the cd, it is a magenta color and covers most of the top surface of the cd, but that is just a wild guess on my part.

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