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post #196 of 1720
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Originally Posted by earwaxxer View Post

I think what he was getting at is that the USB on the iDSD is apparently 3.0. Yes they are all backward compatible with 2.0.

Exactly, I was asking if iDSD only supports USB 3.0 or would it also work with 2.0. So, are you sure of that?
post #197 of 1720

Yes,  I can confirm that it works well with 2.0 too....  

post #198 of 1720

I can double confirm that since I was listening to it on two devices that only have USB 2.0 ports, namely ThinkPad X201t and ThinkPad 2

post #199 of 1720
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Originally Posted by koolas View Post

Will I be able to use iDSD with USB 2.0 cable, i.e. can I connect iDSD to USB 2.0 port of my laptop?

Yes, correct!

post #200 of 1720
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Originally Posted by earwaxxer View Post
 

I think what he was getting at is that the USB on the iDSD is apparently 3.0. Yes they are all backward compatible with 2.0.

Hi,

 

This is for all USB 3.0 ports. This is the de facto standard so nothing to do with the iDSD as such,

post #201 of 1720
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Originally Posted by techfish View Post
 

I have a question regarding it's abilities to bitstream from PC to receiver. So I'd like to plug this into my computer via USB and bitsream dolby digital or dts content to my receiver for it to do the processing. Will this device do that via the digital output? Sorry if noob question.

Hi,

 

The answer is "depends" (ie. subject to the playback software used - it needs to be able to "override" Windows/OS X own settings for Bit-streaming - only JRMC does that. We would not really use his as the main reason for a purchase. As a bonus, sure.

Try it and let us know how you get on.

post #202 of 1720
Another question. I was thinking and thinking and thinking and I can't decide. I have Pan Am on Mullards and I at times I am maybe not disappointed, but not 100% happy with it's built-in DAC. I was considering buying CLAS -dB and as an upgrade, but then I see this iDSD on ebay at very nice price and I read it's specs and I read "it sounds musical" (for comparison DAC in PanAm sounds "digital") and then it's HiRez and DSD and DXD, so I got very interested. It is more than half price of CLAS -dB, and more than half price of Pan Am, so I don't know should I expect it being worse or better? Note that I am not very interested in the amp stage, but only DAC. If connected it to Pan Am would I hear upgrade? I would certainly gain DSD and 192 support, but will it sound good, i.e. better than Pan Am's DAC?
post #203 of 1720

Got the iDSD today - some initial impressions.... I'm listening to The Beatles 1 album. Source is redbook ripped to hard drive, using JRiver with output set to DSD 5.6 (DSD over DoP). Volume disabled. Using the iDSD volume control running directly to my Emotiva XPA-2. First impression was that the vocals are shockingly realistic! Very intimate. Like I have never heard these songs before (I have heard them countless times). The subtleties to Paul and John's voices like I have not heard before. How they trail off on a note etc. Lets talk about PRAT. The timing is so good that it almost sounds like the songs are slower than I am used to. With Ringos drums I can hear just how gently he's tapping the skins on 'Hey Jude'. - This sounds NOTHING like the native 16/44.1. - Very impressed - much more tinkering to do for sure. BTW - its not just the mids, the bass is also very good. - more later....

post #204 of 1720

Question for the iFi folks - is there a problem driving the RCA's and the headphone out at the same time? What I'm thinking about is taking that headphone out and using it for my sub. I may have to amplify it in stages but that would be ok, I'm dong that now. - thanks

post #205 of 1720
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Originally Posted by earwaxxer View Post

Got the iDSD today - some initial impressions.... I'm listening to The Beatles 1 album. Source is redbook ripped to hard drive, using JRiver with output set to DSD 5.6 (DSD over DoP). Volume disabled. Using the iDSD volume control running directly to my Emotiva XPA-2. First impression was that the vocals are shockingly realistic! Very intimate. Like I have never heard these songs before (I have heard them countless times). The subtleties to Paul and John's voices like I have not heard before. How they trail off on a note etc. Lets talk about PRAT. The timing is so good that it almost sounds like the songs are slower than I am used to. With Ringos drums I can hear just how gently he's tapping the skins on 'Hey Jude'. - This sounds NOTHING like the native 16/44.1. - Very impressed - much more tinkering to do for sure. BTW - its not just the mids, the bass is also very good. - more later....

So you basically say that iDSD outperformed your Gungnir?
post #206 of 1720
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Originally Posted by koolas View Post


So you basically say that iDSD outperformed your Gungnir?


Absolutely - no contest. I have stated before, that I have not been 'satisfied' with the Gungnir sound. It was hard for me to put my finger on it, except that the sound was too shouty and 'in your face', especially through the balanced output, to my Emotiva. It was a hard sound to relax to. The iDSD sounds completely different, at least when playing upsampled redbook to DSD. The Gungnir did sound better when it was fed high res (24/192) data, with a min phase filter applied. No doubt about that. The iDSD is just very enjoyable to listen to, even when I wasnt in a particular mood to listen to music. So far so good. I have had the Gungnir in and out of my system MANY times. Sometimes I put it back in, and I think "this is good, whats wrong with me"? Its not long though before the fatigue sets in. I thought I was a fan of the AK chip sound. It's in my Transporter and my Gungnir. I dont think so now....

post #207 of 1720

Another question for the iFi folks... So, does the iDSD 'charge' whenever its plugged into an active USB port? Do I have to take any special consideration about it being/getting charged? I could leave it plugged into a laptop for a charge once in a while if it needs that.

post #208 of 1720
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Originally Posted by earwaxxer View Post
 

Question for the iFi folks - is there a problem driving the RCA's and the headphone out at the same time? What I'm thinking about is taking that headphone out and using it for my sub. I may have to amplify it in stages but that would be ok, I'm dong that now. - thanks

 

Hi,

 

Connecting headphone disconnects the line out. Separate circuitry.

post #209 of 1720
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Originally Posted by earwaxxer View Post
 

Another question for the iFi folks... So, does the iDSD 'charge' whenever its plugged into an active USB port? Do I have to take any special consideration about it being/getting charged? I could leave it plugged into a laptop for a charge once in a while if it needs that.

 

Hi,

 

Please refer to the manual for diagram/explanation but:

 

If the iDSD is linked to the USB port before turning on it will be in USB Power/Desktop mode use USB Power to charge/top-up charge the battery all the time - the DAC and analogue stage still run directly on the Battery though, but the battery is maintained at optimum voltage by the charger.

 

If the iDSD is turned on before being linked to a USB port it is in Portable/Battery mode and USB power is disconnected internally. In this case and if the battery is discharged and if the USB Port can supply enough current to charge (meaning not iPhone, iPad, iPod or'droid phone) the iDSD will revert to USB Power/Desktop mode transparently or if no charge current can be drawn and the battery is flat it will shut down until it can recharge.

 

 

As the batteries used do not age due to cycling either way of doing things is fine. The battery is fully-protected against over discharge and overcharge, inherently.

 

thank you


Edited by iFi audio - 2/9/14 at 12:51pm
post #210 of 1720
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Originally Posted by koolas View Post

Another question. I was thinking and thinking and thinking and I can't decide. I have Pan Am on Mullards and I at times I am maybe not disappointed, but not 100% happy with it's built-in DAC. I was considering buying CLAS -dB and as an upgrade, but then I see this iDSD on ebay at very nice price and I read it's specs and I read "it sounds musical" (for comparison DAC in PanAm sounds "digital") and then it's HiRez and DSD and DXD, so I got very interested. It is more than half price of CLAS -dB, and more than half price of Pan Am, so I don't know should I expect it being worse or better? Note that I am not very interested in the amp stage, but only DAC. If connected it to Pan Am would I hear upgrade? I would certainly gain DSD and 192 support, but will it sound good, i.e. better than Pan Am's DAC?

 

Hi,

 

We do not comment on the iDSD in relation to other peer group products.

 

Notwithstanding, specifically with regard to the Wolfson Micro DAC chipset, we have auditioned it and in our opinion, musical speaking, leaves one hankering for more.

 

thank you

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