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post #106 of 1711
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Originally Posted by semeniub View Post
 

An easy thing to do is plug your iDSD into someone else's iPhone or iPhone(s) - if the connection problem still exists, then maybe the iDSD or cable needs to be checked.

Using the same USB cable, the iDSD works fine with my iMac.  It is either the lightning camera adapter or the Phone, I guess..  This again.

post #107 of 1711

IMO, the iFi Micro gears made a bigger difference than any DAC I would have purchased under $1500.  I think the combination of cables, DAC, tube amplifier, iFi gears, is giving me the best sound at the lowest cost.  The Audioquest IC's were purchased at a very low price, and they also serve my Home Theater setup.  I would say the iFi setup I am running made the biggest difference for me though!

post #108 of 1711
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

IMO, the iFi Micro gears made a bigger difference than any DAC I would have purchased under $1500.  I think the combination of cables, DAC, tube amplifier, iFi gears, is giving me the best sound at the lowest cost.  The Audioquest IC's were purchased at a very low price, and they also serve my Home Theater setup.  I would say the iFi setup I am running made the biggest difference for me though!

That makes sense then.  Thanks for the feedback.  I look forward to trying the I-link and maybe Gemini in mine as well. 

post #109 of 1711
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

IMO, the iFi Micro gears made a bigger difference than any DAC I would have purchased under $1500.  I think the combination of cables, DAC, tube amplifier, iFi gears, is giving me the best sound at the lowest cost.  The Audioquest IC's were purchased at a very low price, and they also serve my Home Theater setup.  I would say the iFi setup I am running made the biggest difference for me though!


The above is in line with my expectations for the IFi iDSD. Like many have stated previously. The paradigm is shifting for digital audio sound quality/playback etc. Its not all about big beefy power supplies and the absolute shunning of op amps etc. Very interesting for sure. Kind of like the DAC du jour approach. Of course there is still room for the MSB's, EMM's, DCS's etc. etc. Mere mortals like myself will never buy one of those, not even used. - actually for full disclosure, I do own an MSB - Link DAC lll, but you know what I mean....

post #110 of 1711
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Originally Posted by JWahl View Post
 
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

IMO, the iFi Micro gears made a bigger difference than any DAC I would have purchased under $1500.  I think the combination of cables, DAC, tube amplifier, iFi gears, is giving me the best sound at the lowest cost.  The Audioquest IC's were purchased at a very low price, and they also serve my Home Theater setup.  I would say the iFi setup I am running made the biggest difference for me though!

That makes sense then.  Thanks for the feedback.  I look forward to trying the I-link and maybe Gemini in mine as well. 

 

Best setup for the Gemeni cable, is the iFi I USB with separate power and signal out.  Plus, the I Purifier made a difference in refinement going into the I Link!  Fantastic sound at a great low price!  Money well spent!

post #111 of 1711
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

 

Best setup for the Gemeni cable, is the iFi I USB with separate power and signal out.  Plus, the I Purifier made a difference in refinement going into the I Link!  Fantastic sound at a great low price!  Money well spent!

I would if I didn't already use a USB battery for the power line.  Makes the iUSB redundant.  The iPurifier might be something to look at for the data line though.  Right now I'm using a cheapo y-split cable for the time being.

post #112 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Pentagonal View Post
 

For those concerned with shipping times, I just ordered an iDSD from TweekGeek.com and they placed me on the next shipping batch. I only need to wait 1 week as those are coming in around late January. I can't wait to get it!

i ordered from them yesterday...not sure if i will be in the next batch or not since i'm not sure how many they'll receive, but hopefully i'll have mine in the next couple of weeks, too.

post #113 of 1711
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Originally Posted by kugino View Post
 

i ordered from them yesterday...not sure if i will be in the next batch or not since i'm not sure how many they'll receive, but hopefully i'll have mine in the next couple of weeks, too.


i got the last one, in the last batch, got here thursday

post #114 of 1711
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 


i got the last one, in the last batch, got here thursday

nice! seems like they're getting them in fairly frequently. music direct has a 4-6 week wait time...

post #115 of 1711
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Originally Posted by kugino View Post
 

nice! seems like they're getting them in fairly frequently. music direct has a 4-6 week wait time...


and honestly i just got it to check out dsd, i may part with this one sometime soon, if anyone has interest pm me

 

edit:

 

i have a commitment , thanks guys


Edited by jaywillin - 1/27/14 at 3:09am
post #116 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Tokyolifer View Post
 

 

Having some issues connecting my iPhone 5 to iDSD.  The iDSD is connected to the iPhone 5 through camera adapter / USB cable, but it doesn't seem like the iPhone recognizes iDSD, as music is played only through the iPhone speaker..  I am turning on the iDSD power before connecting it to the iPhone to makes sure that it is battery powered...Not so sure what is going on.  Any tip you can give me would be helpful.

Hi

 

Like the rest of the guys have said here. Please confirm you are indeed using an original Apple CCK/USB adapter. Only the genuine one works!

post #117 of 1711

iDSD is no1 seller in Japan!

 

Yoroshiku iFi Japan!

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=649138701788542&set=a.461191017249979.95398.460963790606035&type=1&theater&notif_t=photo_comment

 

Holy cowabunga!  This really made our day!

 

If you would like to watch the e-earphone video...
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/43157048
(see 00:09:36 for the sales chart)

Note to all: around the globe, there is still a waiting list as demand continues to outstrip supply of the nano products in particular the iDSD. We simply have been unable to satisfy the exponential demand. Some countries have already pre-sold their future shipments! 

 
From all of us here at iFi, we would like to make a huge heart felt THANK YOU for your custom & patience. We truly appreciate it.
 
 
 
post #118 of 1711

Hi Head-Fi'ers-

 

New member, first time poster... just bought an iDSD from MusicDirect earlier in the week and yes indeed a 4-6 week wait (ouch). Good thing I'm patient.

 

Meanwhile a question:

 

I saw iFI's post about how to use JRiver Media center with the iFi Nano iDSD.

 

They enable DSD over PCM (DoP) to make it work.

 

There is no mention of DoP on iFi's iDSD page (that I see - I could be missing it).

 

For those folks who already have a unit, it plays "straight" DSF and DFF files right?

 

Am I to assume JRiver (in the post about how to set it up) does the conversion?

 

I have JRiver Media center but may also be in a situation where I won't have my iDSD connected to JRiver... hence the question.

 

Bob

post #119 of 1711
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Originally Posted by tazmo View Post
 

Hi Head-Fi'ers-

 

New member, first time poster... just bought an iDSD from MusicDirect earlier in the week and yes indeed a 4-6 week wait (ouch). Good thing I'm patient.

 

Meanwhile a question:

 

I saw iFI's post about how to use JRiver Media center with the iFi Nano iDSD.

 

They enable DSD over PCM (DoP) to make it work.

 

There is no mention of DoP on iFi's iDSD page (that I see - I could be missing it).

 

For those folks who already have a unit, it plays "straight" DSF and DFF files right?

 

Am I to assume JRiver (in the post about how to set it up) does the conversion?

 

I have JRiver Media center but may also be in a situation where I won't have my iDSD connected to JRiver... hence the question.

 

Bob


jriver18 can/does convert/change the files only,

jriver 19, can do that too, plus, it allows for playback in dsd, without actually changing the file format, so you can listen to your whole library without ever actually changing the file

the idsd does no actual file conversion , it decodes files, that's my understanding, though i may be wrong

post #120 of 1711
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Originally Posted by tazmo View Post
 

Hi Head-Fi'ers-

 

New member, first time poster... just bought an iDSD from MusicDirect earlier in the week and yes indeed a 4-6 week wait (ouch). Good thing I'm patient.

 

Meanwhile a question:

 

I saw iFI's post about how to use JRiver Media center with the iFi Nano iDSD.

 

They enable DSD over PCM (DoP) to make it work.

 

There is no mention of DoP on iFi's iDSD page (that I see - I could be missing it).

 

For those folks who already have a unit, it plays "straight" DSF and DFF files right?

 

Am I to assume JRiver (in the post about how to set it up) does the conversion?

 

I have JRiver Media center but may also be in a situation where I won't have my iDSD connected to JRiver... hence the question.

 

 

 

Hi,

 

Firstly, we appreciate your patience - customer word of mouth from people like yourself we truly appreciate. It has led to strong demand for the nano iDSD - thanks to you all.

 

So we apologise for the initial wait you have just experienced. Thankfully it is not months and months!

 

 

Secondly, DoP is the industry standard for DSD to be transferred natively" That is, DoP does not carry out any format conversion, this transmission protocol ensures the USB Audio Data Package maintains the integrity of the DSD file as it remains unchanged.

 

Of course upon entering the actual DAC, one should also insist that the DAC itself INTERNALLY does not manipulate the data (as some DAC chipsets convert to PCM etc). In this regard, the nano iDSD ensures the DSD file remains DSD internally. Hence, 'True Native.'

 

 

 

Tech Background on SDIF-3 (not SPDIF!)

DoP was devised for PCs as the original protocol is to transmit DSD is called SDIF-3: (not SPDIF bty)

http://www.grimmaudio.com/site/assets/files/1088/sdif3v10.pdf

 

This transmission standard is NOT supported by any current PC based hardware nor is it supported by iOS devices. So this is a non-starter for the real-world of computer audio users.

 

In 2012, to work around this limitation in order to transmit DSD over standard USB Audio Links, DoP was developed by a number of Companies supporting DSD.

 

DoP uses Standard USB audio as a transport for the original DSD Data. The DSD data is NEVER processed nor altered, it is simply placed into USB Audio packages and recovered on the other end. 

 

The Output Data from DoP decoding is in effect SDIF-3 Data - simply making it electrically compatible with SDIF-3 produces a true SDIF-3 Output that is a perfect replica of the original DSD/SDIF-3 data at the recording (unless processing was applied in the studio).

 

 

Yup, iDSD uses SDIF-3 (not SPDIF)

You will be pleased to know that internally, when a DSD signal is rec'd, the iDSD uses SDIF3 to carry the signal throughout.

 

So as you can see, the nano iDSD has serious technology going on beneath its aluminium chassis to ensure the sound quality is the very best that it can be.

 

Interestingly, there seems to be more misunderstanding in the West (while Japanese customers seem to be much more knowledgeable on the finer points of DSD-probably thanks to Sony et al).

 

We shall therefore produce a whitepaper covering these aspects in a few weeks. It will be published in the FaceBook tech notes section.

 

 

 

thank you

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