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I just received W40s. My very first impression (10min of listening) is that the mid and treble detail is fantastic but the bass range around kick drums and bass guitars sounds artificial and muddy/loose. Is anyone else hearing this? I'm comparing to SE535 and UE 18 Pro. Just want to make sure I didn't get a bad pair.

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Originally Posted by mrip541 View Post
 

I just received W40s. My very first impression (10min of listening) is that the mid and treble detail is fantastic but the bass range around kick drums and bass guitars sounds artificial and muddy/loose. Is anyone else hearing this? I'm comparing to SE535 and UE 18 Pro. Just want to make sure I didn't get a bad pair.


You need some burn in, at least 20hrs for your final assessment; bass will get there :)  Don't expect a fast aggressive punch, these are more laid back and relaxed, but it will be more detailed after burn in.  Btw, I'm using it with silver plated RC-SE1 cable from FiiO, and that adds more details to a sound.

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You need some burn in, at least 20hrs for your final assessment; bass will get there smily_headphones1.gif  Don't expect a fast aggressive punch, these are more laid back and relaxed, but it will be more detailed after burn in.  Btw, I'm using it with silver plated RC-SE1 cable from FiiO, and that adds more details to a sound.

Hey thanks. I admit to generally being in the burn in your ears rather than the driver camp but I'll give it a go!
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I let them play sitting on my desk for the last 2 hours and you know what, they do already seem to sound a bit different. I'm going to let them play overnight, reprogram my ears with the SE535, and have another go. I'd really prefer to not believe in break in... I've bought a few other new IEMs and never noticed the sound change. Who knows. 

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Originally Posted by mrip541 View Post
 

I let them play sitting on my desk for the last 2 hours and you know what, they do already seem to sound a bit different. I'm going to let them play overnight, reprogram my ears with the SE535, and have another go. I'd really prefer to not believe in break in... I've bought a few other new IEMs and never noticed the sound change. Who knows. 


Yeah, we had a few heated up discussion about burn in on head-fi lol!!!  People don't believe burn in will affect BA drivers, only Dynamic.  Others don't believe in burn in of wires/cords, and so on...  I'm a believer :)

post #592 of 618

I'm looking to get either the Westone W10 or the Westone UM Pro10.

 

Could anyone help me understand the differences, and if the W10 is worth the $50 more compared to the UM Pro10?

 

Thank you so much!

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Originally Posted by deafelwood View Post
 

I'm looking to get either the Westone W10 or the Westone UM Pro10.

 

Could anyone help me understand the differences, and if the W10 is worth the $50 more compared to the UM Pro10?

 

Thank you so much!

 

The Um series is designed for the professional user (flatter response), whilst the w series is designed for more consumer oriented tastes (usually highs and lows stand out more). The difference tends to be more pronounced on the higher end of the westone family with more drivers.

 

Aside from design philosophy, the W series comes with interchangeable faceplates and 2 cables (one with remote/ one without) , the Um series comes with only 1 non-mic cable.

 

Of course trying them would be the best option, and you can pick which sound signature you prefer more. But if you must have a cable with mic then you should purchase the W series, as the standalone cable accessory is more expensive than the difference between W and UM.

post #594 of 618

Thanks for the feedback. It seems that you mention the W10 as being a more consumer grade product, especially because of the volume control and faceplates. Does the price hike justify these features?

 

The only things that seem to change between the two in terms of specs, is the impedance, where the W10 has a 27 OHMS rating compared to 25 of the UM10 Pro...

 

Considering I listen to a range of music: blues, jazz, rock, hip hop, acoustic, would I be more satisfied with the 'warmer' W10?

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After spinning several albums i'm 100% sure that Westone W30 does not sound exactly like the old Westone 3:

 

1. Volume: at any given power the W30 sounds a little softer than the W3 did. (Even if impedance and sensivity specs are the same there must be something different as the overall ability to put out sound pressure at a given input power is slightly decreased)

 

2. Midbass amplitude has been cut down a little

 

3. Mids are more prominent

 

4. Treble sounds more refined and less rambunctious

 

 

So as for this model goes the upgrade clearly reminds me of the Shure SE530 -> Shure SE535 move: better ergonomics, replaceable cable and slight tweak of the sound presentation.

 

I did not have any qualm about the Westone 3 sound (with Shure olives and Westone True-Fit tips) but those who were put off by the 'blunt' character of the W3 might like the added clarity and refinement of its successor. Not to mention the awesome ergonomics that provide superb comfort and sound isolation.

 

Hence a very happy camper here. Only wishing that these stand the test of time unlike the pair of Westone 3 that i had.

 

On a side note i must say that the lack of pro reviews of the new Westone line makes me wonder whatever happened with Westone marketing budget. I can recall all the hoopla that media gave to Shure upgrade from the 0's to the 5's series.

 

Btw the epic cable is still an epic win. So much that i gave up on the mfi cable just after 24 hours of use as i missed the braided cable.

 

To conclude i'd say that Westone take on the mmcx connector looks more reliable and less prone to cut offs than Shure approach. Looks tighter and more secure.


Edited by elfary - 8/26/14 at 11:38pm
post #596 of 618
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Originally Posted by deafelwood View Post
 

Thanks for the feedback. It seems that you mention the W10 as being a more consumer grade product, especially because of the volume control and faceplates. Does the price hike justify these features?

 

The only things that seem to change between the two in terms of specs, is the impedance, where the W10 has a 27 OHMS rating compared to 25 of the UM10 Pro...

 

Considering I listen to a range of music: blues, jazz, rock, hip hop, acoustic, would I be more satisfied with the 'warmer' W10?

 

Only you can really answer whether you care about the faceplate and cables. For me, i never use a remote cable, and I dont mind the look of the um series, so if all else equal i would just buy UM.

 

However, most important of course is the sound. I have not heard the um pro 10's at all actually, I've heard W 10, 20, 30, 40, 60, UM pro 50.

 

My guess would be that the UM and W 10's are the most similar out of the pairings simply because 1 driver isn't much to work with when tuning the sound. If you can give them a demo, i really suggest you do that, you can only tell a difference if you a/b them. 

 

If you aren't set on Westone, I think a better question is to ask is how does the W/UM compare to offerings from other manufacturers at that price point or less.

Slightly cheaper offerings are abundant such as ATH-im70, Xiaomi Pistons 2nd gen, se215. You may like these instead and save yourself a bit of money.

post #597 of 618

Give the im70 a try, those are pretty good for what they ask for.

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You forgot the Hifiman RE-400 / 600 smily_headphones1.gif
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Only you can really answer whether you care about the faceplate and cables. For me, i never use a remote cable, and I dont mind the look of the um series, so if all else equal i would just buy UM.

 

However, most important of course is the sound. I have not heard the um pro 10's at all actually, I've heard W 10, 20, 30, 40, 60, UM pro 50.

 

My guess would be that the UM and W 10's are the most similar out of the pairings simply because 1 driver isn't much to work with when tuning the sound. If you can give them a demo, i really suggest you do that, you can only tell a difference if you a/b them. 

 

If you aren't set on Westone, I think a better question is to ask is how does the W/UM compare to offerings from other manufacturers at that price point or less.

Slightly cheaper offerings are abundant such as ATH-im70, Xiaomi Pistons 2nd gen, se215. You may like these instead and save yourself a bit of money.

The only noticable differences are as mentioned earlier. They even weigh the same, although the UM series is supposedly designed & assembled in the US.

 

Reading reviews of other headphones, it seems that the westone seem to stick out the least when in your ear, something that would help when travelling or trying to sleep.

 

I did look at the others you recommended, the ATH-IM70 stuck out the most to me, but it is hard to source, since it is sold from Japan.

 

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Give the im70 a try, those are pretty good for what they ask for.

Thanks, I am considering them, but am having trouble finding them easily.

 

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You forgot the Hifiman RE-400 / 600 smily_headphones1.gif

 

I read up on these, but I think since I just recently discovered monitor style headphones, I don't want to get headphones with fixed cabling. ( I gave up on sony headphnes after they all ended up damaged from cable issues.

 

 

 

At the moment, I think I can't justify the price hike of the W10 with remote over the UM Pro10. The remote would only be used when travelling those few times a year. It's not a life changing feature, I would rather spend that on a sound improvement...

 

So that being said I am quite fixed on the UM Pro10s, unless I can find something else/or be influenced by someone on here otherwise.

post #600 of 618

hey guys, how are the w30 compared to the dn1000.  i like dn1000 but after some concerns about the cable.  another member told me to check out the w30 cause it has similar sound as the dn1000.

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