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post #526 of 636
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Originally Posted by Rex24-7 View Post
 

Has anyone posted a review about the W30? I've never had earphones before, but the W30 looks to be a great modern upgrade from my HD25-1 IIs. For earphones, I've considered UE900 (bad quality control), W4R (can't find new), IE80 (not enough isolation), ER4s (uncomfortable), and much much more. The W30s seem to slot into the correct price bracket and I'd probably pull the trigger if I knew more about them. 


Don't just judge headphones by the prices and looks ;)  All the ones you listed have a different sound signature.  If you search this thread, there was someone who posted their W30 impressions (if I'm not mistaken) so it can give you an idea how it compares to others.  Going from 3 BA drivers to 4 doesn't guarantee more details but most likely will result in different sound signature tuning, so W30 vs W40 will be more than just $100 price difference.  For example, UE900 will be more mid-forward with less emphasis on bass, W4R will be close but slightly different in bass response (as it was mentioned by comparison in this thread), ER4s have analytical/reference sound and fitment that requires a deep jamming in your ear canal, don't know much about IE90 though earpiece bass-tunning might give you a clue of the sound emphasis in those.

post #527 of 636

I had read that the older W3 was more bass-oriented and that it was due to the difference between 3 drivers and 4 drivers. That and I don't want to spend $500 on my very first IEM. Would you? I normally listen to metal or EDM, and those EDM days I'd be looking for bass-driven sound. Then I read that Westone changed the signature on the W30 and I wonder if it has lost the extra bass. For $400, I hope it sounds nice and clear but I don't know how much it has changed from what W3 reviews say. Thanks for the replies.

post #528 of 636

W30 should be a safe choice.  Yes, I believe very little changed from W3 which was probably Westone's bassiest offering up until this year.  Has decent clarity, treble and a BIG sound stage making it a very fun sounding IEM.

post #529 of 636
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

W30 should be a safe choice.  Yes, I believe very little changed from W3 which was probably Westone's bassiest offering up until this year.  Has decent clarity, treble and a BIG sound stage making it a very fun sounding IEM.

Wonder how they sound compared to the w40.
post #530 of 636

W40 is more balanced and conservative.  More neutral, more accurate, warmer and probably on the boring side for some.  W40 would certainly be better for vocal and acoustic music but W30 is more exciting...more electrifying.  But not very accurate.  Who cares, right?

post #531 of 636
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
 

W40 is more balanced and conservative.  More neutral, more accurate, warmer and probably on the boring side for some.  W40 would certainly be better for vocal and acoustic music but W30 is more exciting...more electrifying.  But not very accurate.  Who cares, right?


I would add, W40 has a very laid back smooth sound.  Never thought of it as boring, just maybe a little "lazy" ;)  Also, the bass has a slower attack in comparison to other IEMs I have.  Wonder if W30 will have a faster mid-bass punch and brighter upper mids/treble?

post #532 of 636
I received the W40's this past Monday for 4R warranty replacements and barley had a chance to listen to them. I've read that the W40's where basically identical in performance as the 4R's except for the obvious cosmetic changes. I've used a Fiio mont blanc to power all my headphones and IEM's.

In my experience the W40's sound superior in almost every way to the 4R's. I don't know if this has something to do with the interchangeable ear tips and getting a better seal with the W40's but with my old 4R's I had a great seal using Shure ear tips on the 4R's and didn't have the same listening experience as with W40's. Something else that was surprising;the W40's didn't require the use of the 16db boost with the Fiio amplifier like it did with the 4R's. Using the boost with the W40's led to distortion.

I really wanted to hate the W40's because most reviews and forum conversations I've read about the W40's focused around how disappointing it was to see that Westone opted to make cosmetic enhancements and no performance enhancements vs the 4R's.

The only bad thing I will say about the W40's is that the overall look and feel of the W40's in my opinion do feel and look cheaper than the older 4R's.
post #533 of 636
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Originally Posted by mrmortgage View Post

I received the W40's this past Monday for 4R warranty replacements and barley had a chance to listen to them. I've read that the W40's where basically identical in performance as the 4R's except for the obvious cosmetic changes.

You certainly didn't read that here on Head-Fi.  Virtually everyone that has had both W4 and W40 has talked about the significant bass boost.  It's referenced all over this forum.

post #534 of 636
I posted here on this quite a while ago, W4 and W40 do not sound the same. Back when I did, I got flack as the accepted wisdom was that it was only a cosmetic change (I also write for the audiophile voice, did the comparison. It's a print magazine, don't think it has run yet). Much prefer the W40 (and I like the W4), more open. Detail, bass, only thing dirt if a negative is that it has a much closer perspective...like sitting in row 2 rather than row10.
post #535 of 636
As a six months Westone 3 owner who got them exchanged twice because of ia crack and intermitent fuzzing on the right piece, a few days back Westone offered me to swap them for a brand new W30 and i pulled the trigger.

Hence when i get back from holidays i will be able to compare them to the W3.

As for build quality and reliability this is Westone last chance, One more hassle and all the way back to Shure (where iems never ever have failed on me). For loud listening i'd rather go with Westone thick sound but i can't stand fail prone gadgets.
Edited by elfary - 8/2/14 at 3:08am
post #536 of 636
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Originally Posted by elfary View Post

As a six months Westone 3 owner who got them exchanged twice because of ia crack and intermitent fuzzing on the right piece, a few days back Westone offered me to swap them for a brand new W30 and i pulled the trigger.

Hence when i get back from holidays i will be able to compare them to the W3.

As for build quality and reliability this is Westone last chance, One more hassle and all the way back to Shure (where iems never ever have failed on me). For loud listening i'd rather go with Westone thick sound but i can't stand fail prone gadgets.


Which is ironic really as the only shure that I tried failed twice for me and westone have been trouble free.  As ever ymmv!

post #537 of 636
I scrolled through this entire thread and couldn't find anything on the westone w10 other than it being better than its predacessor. Can anyone weigh in on it? I know people seem to really like the w40 but how much would I suffer from getting phones with 3 less drivers?

edit: btw, I'm trying to decide between the w10, the um pro 10, and the ath im02. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help
Edited by ClashActual - 8/2/14 at 11:02am
post #538 of 636

Huge difference.  W10 would be pretty lame.  It is mainly midrange focus with very little bass

post #539 of 636

If on a budget and don't mind trying another brand the SE215 is a fun and inexpensive little phone...same is true for W30.  I would say demo both if you can.  Some good retailers and online-retailers have great return policies if you are unsure and want to make sure at home with your music and your source.

post #540 of 636
Interesting thing is I love mids and don't care a whole lot for bass, but if the bass is really bad then I guess I'll pass... I'm not looking for something amazing that will make love to my ears; just at least good sounding monitors that will last me a couple years. Thought the W10 would be it :/

W30 is definitely out of my range, but the SE215 is half my budget. Aren't their mmcx connectors prone to fail though? Or maybe that was a different phone
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