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post #121 of 1121

Here is a short summary/writeup from Joker (who doesn't need any introduction), scroll down:

 

http://theheadphonelist.com/ces-2014-headphone-coverage-part-1-klipsch-phiaton-westone-and-more/

 

He did confirm that both UM Pro 30 and W40 had the same drivers and crossover as their predecessors (UM3X and W4R), although he only listened to UM Pro 30, while W40 was confirmed by someone else, I assume Westone guys.

post #122 of 1121
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Originally Posted by twister6 View Post

Here is a short summary/writeup from Joker (who doesn't need any introduction), scroll down:

 

http://theheadphonelist.com/ces-2014-headphone-coverage-part-1-klipsch-phiaton-westone-and-more/

 

He did confirm that both UM Pro 30 and W40 had the same drivers and crossover as their predecessors (UM3X and W4R), although he only listened to UM Pro 30, while W40 was confirmed by someone else, I assume Westone guys.


I have both and I can confirm that w4r and w40 don't have the same sound.

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post #123 of 1121
Looking forward to your impressions :-)
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I have both and I can confirm that w4r and w40 don't have the same sound.

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post #124 of 1121

I was just recently testing Slappa headphone cases (posted a review here: http://www.head-fi.org/f/21/cables-power-tweaks-speakers-accessories-dbt-free-forum), and I thought you guys might like to see how W40 looks with one of their HardBody cases.

 

I actually changed my W40 to black and red plates so I know which one is R(ed)ight ;)  Together with black/red slappy case it looks awesome, and for $9 it's a bargain.  Also, cable goes safely into a mesh pocket while earbuds are outside so they don't tangle with a cable.  Inner liner is a nice and soft velveteen material, pure luxury :)

 

 

 

post #125 of 1121

Really curious to hear if anyone else has heard any of the Wx0 series. I may take the plunge on a pair of W30s once my tax refund comes in...

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post
 

Really curious to hear if anyone else has heard any of the Wx0 series. I may take the plunge on a pair of W30s once my tax refund comes in...

 

... and W30 is available :)  I keep checking Westone website and it still not listed in there.  Didn't see any mentioning at NAMM either.

 

Btw, the more hours I put on these (I'm using W40 and P7 exclusively now), the more improvements I hear in sound.  Actually, the BIGGEST improvement was to switch to fiio RC-SE1 cables, per my review here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/657641/make-the-change-with-one-tiny-wire-fiio-headphone-cable-rc-x-will-be-in-the-market/90#post_10217616

 

Its the single best improvement I would highly recommend where the sound quality goes up significantly (a wise $30 investment).  Yes, you will have to live with microphonics, but the sound gets louder, the bass gets deeper and more detailed, and you get more treble sparkle, while still retaining the overall warm signature.

post #127 of 1121
There's a bunch of places offering preorders.

I hope the delay means they're tweaking the sound sig, preferably to reduce the bass boominess...if so, they could replace my TF10...muahaha...
post #128 of 1121

Hi all,

In your opinion is the W40 too good/clear (please excuse my newbie terms) to play compressed music from itunes at 256kbps?

I'm tossing up between the W20 and W40 to use with my itunes library.

Also considering the Westone um2

 :L3000: 


Edited by james1260 - 2/9/14 at 11:07am
post #129 of 1121
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Originally Posted by james1260 View Post
 

Hi all,

In your opinion is the W40 too good/clear (please excuse my newbie terms) to play compressed music from itunes at 256kbps?

I'm tossing up between the W20 and W40 to use with my itunes library.

Also considering the Westone um2

 :L3000: 

 

You probably mean "too revealing" to show imperfections? Though, I can't speak for W20 or W10, in my opinion I found W40 to be more "forgiving" because of its overall warmer sound signature.  Other multi-driver IEMs with mid-centric signature really push more mids and treble in your face.  From what I read (like this SOS article: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr12/articles/lost-in-translation.htm) lossy audio compression removes high frequency content, thus such artifact will be more revealing with mid-centric IEM (like UE900).

 

W40 will shine with lossless audio formats, but if you are only planing to use your headphones with 256kbps compressed audio or listening to on-line radio streaming (those are anywhere from 64kbps to 128kbps) - W20 is probably the more cost efficient solution for you.

post #130 of 1121
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Originally Posted by james1260 View Post
 

Hi all,

In your opinion is the W40 too good/clear (please excuse my newbie terms) to play compressed music from itunes at 256kbps?

I'm tossing up between the W20 and W40 to use with my itunes library.

Also considering the Westone um2

 :L3000: 

 

I've the W4 (same setup as the W40) and it does fine with 256 AAC (default iTunes).  256 AAC is actually pretty good quality, I wouldn't dip below it though.

 

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Originally Posted by twister6 View Post
 

 

You probably mean "too revealing" to show imperfections? Though, I can't speak for W20 or W10, in my opinion I found W40 to be more "forgiving" because of its overall warmer sound signature.  Other multi-driver IEMs with mid-centric signature really push more mids and treble in your face.  From what I read (like this SOS article: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr12/articles/lost-in-translation.htm) lossy audio compression removes high frequency content, thus such artifact will be more revealing with mid-centric IEM (like UE900).

 

W40 will shine with lossless audio formats, but if you are only planing to use your headphones with 256kbps compressed audio or listening to on-line radio streaming (those are anywhere from 64kbps to 128kbps) - W20 is probably the more cost efficient solution for you.

 

Actually, a lot of people can't tell the difference between 320 MP3 and lossless...  As you go up, less information is taken out.  Generally, in the highs, they try to take out supersonic frequencies. 

 

Personally, I won't dip below 256 otherwise I'll hear the difference (using a pair of earpods :p)

post #131 of 1121
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Actually, a lot of people can't tell the difference between 320 MP3 and lossless...  As you go up, less information is taken out.  Generally, in the highs, they try to take out supersonic frequencies. 

 

Personally, I won't dip below 256 otherwise I'll hear the difference (using a pair of earpods :p)

 

I absolutely agree, that's all I have in my collection, 320kbps mp3s.  But when you start going down to 192kbps and below, the high frequency roll off will be more noticeable.  It's especially revealing with Slacker and Pandora since they really cut down on bandwidth.  The same with satellite radio.  I have a decent hifi stereo in my car, and listening to Howard talk is fine, but when you switch to BPM channel to listen to music - it's awful...

post #132 of 1121

Thanks for the replies 

 

Actually I don't use itunes anymore, instead spotify premium at 320kbps

I bought the bose ie2's a month ago and don't want to buy any more 'junk'

Guessing the w4's will sound better with spotify premium, and w2's will be better for listening to the radio?

I'm leaning towards the westone w4 instead of the w2.  Rather pay 30% more and get something way better.  What do you think?

 

Cheers:L3000: 


Edited by james1260 - 2/9/14 at 6:52pm
post #133 of 1121
Well i dont know abt the w40, but i have tried the um30s all the way from 64kbps mp3 to ALAC on my ipod classic
Its surprisingly forgiving of lousy formats, but give it the good stuff and it will thank you most wonderfully
post #134 of 1121

me too, my retailer is selling w3's for only 10% more than the W2's

got me thinking that the w3's must be pretty crap, especially since westone pulled them from their website recently:blink:

post #135 of 1121

This is making my decision so much more difficult. Now that a removable cable was offered I was set on getting the w20's.  However, the release of these new products has dropped the price of the westone 3's to only $20 more than the w20's.  I would love to have removable cables, but is the westone 3's sound quality that much better to not worry about the cables?

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