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post #211 of 707
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Originally Posted by Dr No View Post
 

I think that the demo versions of the JH13s were not a very good fit and no seal, making the sound bad.

 

I had another listen today at the JH 16 pro. These were demo versions with small foam thingies attached, the fit was not very good so I had to put pressure on both pieces to get good sound.  Compared to my Ie800s.

Sound:

Bass: extension ok, not as deep as ie800. However bass in JH16 was better defined and more articulate, ie800 was a little muddy in comparison.

Mids: a bit more forward kids than ie800. Great resolution. However ie800 is also great. Tie.

Treble: In comparison, ie800s treble is slightly harsh and sibilant compared to JH16. The treble is more pronounced in ie800, sound is a bit airier/brighter at the extreme treble.

 

Summary: JH16pro is a bit more mid-focused than ie800, with good bass, although not as deep, and slightly less treble emphasis. Maybe more neutral. However ie800s kids are very, very good.

I played straight out of IP5s. Ie800 were more hard to drive and required higher output than JH16.

 

I like the JH16pro. Considering them or the JH Roxanne. Had my ear impressions made today!

 

In my experience, the JH customs sound significantly better than the demo versions--enough that it is very difficult to draw meaningful conclusions about the earpiece without hearing the finished product itself.

post #212 of 707
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Originally Posted by MusiCol View Post
 

Hi. I have been considering getting a replacement / upgrade from my ACS T1, which I consider to have an inherent flaw: the soft silicon allows internal wires and contacts to stretch / compress, causing them to break after a relatively short time ie. weeks or few months, instead of years.

 

However, I have ACS custom silicon sleeves on my old IE8. I know they are not "high end" but the principle of the seal and safety provided by soft silicon sleeves on a universal fit IEM is, in my mind, the optimum solution - short of a hard-shelled CIEM which incorporates soft silicon in the tips where they enter the ear canal.

 

So, what I'm wondering is whether anyone has tried the universal fit versions of JH13, JH16, (Roxanne? ;) or other high end CIEM's, with soft silicon custom sleeves - like those made by ACS? I'm thinking that would be the best option, and wouldn't require reshelling on the part of a buyer if I decided to sell them.

 

Any thoughts please?


Maybe that is a problem of ACS's building design. Apparently Spiral Ear and Custom Art makes better and more durable silicone earpieces.

post #213 of 707
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Originally Posted by The Monkey View Post
 

 

In my experience, the JH customs sound significantly better than the demo versions--enough that it is very difficult to draw meaningful conclusions about the earpiece without hearing the finished product itself.

Why don´t they just make the demo version with a normal universal silicone tip attached?

post #214 of 707
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Originally Posted by engelhaft View Post
 

Quick question for you guys, the other day I got my Frogbeats c4 stuck on my pocket and when I took them out the left side cable detached from the earphone, so I just connected it and everything went fine, but lately I noticed that the cable is now very loose and gets detached easily now even is getting some troubles if I move my head too quickly.

 

What do you recommend for that, should I try another cable or look for a resheling on another company since frogbeats is dead now?

Have you tried bending the cable connector pins apart slightly? It helps if there is a loose connection ( for Westone style pins... ) . Id recommend trying another cable if that doesn't work. Its got to be cheaper than going for a reshell right away!

post #215 of 707
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Originally Posted by Dr No View Post
 

Why don´t they just make the demo version with a normal universal silicone tip attached?

 

Do you mean why don't they have a universal product offering or why do they use the foamies instead of silicone tips on demos?  If the former, you'd have to ask JH Audio, if the latter, I think the foamies, while imperfect, give a slightly better approximation of the isolation of customs when inserted correctly.

post #216 of 707
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Originally Posted by The Monkey View Post
 

 

Do you mean why don't they have a universal product offering or why do they use the foamies instead of silicone tips on demos?  If the former, you'd have to ask JH Audio, if the latter, I think the foamies, while imperfect, give a slightly better approximation of the isolation of customs when inserted correctly.

I meant the latter, I had a really hard time trying to insert those things into my ears. Way harder than normal universal tips. By the way, isn´t the new JH Roxanne going to be available as universal?

post #217 of 707

Considering ordering the JH16 pro freqphase. I had ear impression molds made today, and I had two sets made. One with mouth closed and one set with open mouth. I read on JH audio homepage that they prefer the open mouth version. Is that the way to go? I´m thinking maybe they will be uncomfortable, because the ear canal widens with open mouth, and impressions made from open mouth inserted into ear canals with closed mouth would put pressure on the canal, no?

post #218 of 707
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Originally Posted by Dr No View Post
 

Considering ordering the JH16 pro freqphase. I had ear impression molds made today, and I had two sets made. One with mouth closed and one set with open mouth. I read on JH audio homepage that they prefer the open mouth version. Is that the way to go? I´m thinking maybe they will be uncomfortable, because the ear canal widens with open mouth, and impressions made from open mouth inserted into ear canals with closed mouth would put pressure on the canal, no?

 

I suggest giving them a call.

post #219 of 707
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Originally Posted by cogsand gears View Post

Have you tried bending the cable connector pins apart slightly? It helps if there is a loose connection ( for Westone style pins... ) . Id recommend trying another cable if that doesn't work. Its got to be cheaper than going for a reshell right away!

Thank you I will try that
post #220 of 707
Thread Starter 

Whoa. I'm noticing a trend here. All the customs are now having like 10 drivers. It drives(pun?) me nuts. UM, JH, and even Rooth now has 10+ driver ciems. Wow. And I have a three driver ciem. Not to say that UERM is bad though. I prefer it to any 5+ driver ciems I've heard, including JH16/13FP, UE18, Miracle, and ES5. That's 4 flagships there.

post #221 of 707
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Originally Posted by kimvictor View Post
 

Whoa. I'm noticing a trend here. All the customs are now having like 10 drivers. It drives(pun?) me nuts. UM, JH, and even Rooth now has 10+ driver ciems. Wow. And I have a three driver ciem. Not to say that UERM is bad though. I prefer it to any 5+ driver ciems I've heard, including JH16/13FP, UE18, Miracle, and ES5. That's 4 flagships there.

 

Probably as technology gets miniaturized and improves, the various manufacturers can design new customs with more drivers and more complex crossovers to accommodate them.  

post #222 of 707
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Originally Posted by kimvictor View Post

Whoa. I'm noticing a trend here. All the customs are now having like 10 drivers. It drives(pun?) me nuts. UM, JH, and even Rooth now has 10+ driver ciems. Wow. And I have a three driver ciem. Not to say that UERM is bad though. I prefer it to any 5+ driver ciems I've heard, including JH16/13FP, UE18, Miracle, and ES5. That's 4 flagships there.
This is one approach, but others (less visible) like Earsonics, Custom Art, Vision Ears or very popular like Fitear work with 3 to 5 drivers.
post #223 of 707

It's a lot of drivers but most of us should know implementation means more that driver count. That being said for some reason I've taken a liking to ciem without realizing it. All of my customs sound very good are all 3 way. I would rate my JH13 on top with my UERM and V6 Stage closely behind it. It really is at sound signature preference at this level however with kimvictor's UERM preference over all of those demos as a good example.

post #224 of 707
Thread Starter 

This is just my thoughts, but more cross overs and fancy technology, more things that can go wrong. Like the bass tuner of ASG2. I'm kind of sticking with minimalist approach in believing that 3 way is the best. But I agree with rawrster in that once you reach the TOTL level, it's more about the sound sig then number of drivers.

 

Oooh. I wish I had my AK100 with me when I demoed all the ciems. There was a UM PP6! I could not demo the PP6 as I didn't have any proper gear with me.

post #225 of 707
My SE5 has a 5 crossover/bore design and it sounds as if the IEMs are a single driver solution in terms of coherency
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