Nor do I, but that's half the fun. Stay a while and enjoy.
Dat Sony XBA-H3 Anti-Hype: http://www.head-fi.org/t/680119/sony-xba-h1-and-xba-h3-hybrid-dynamic-and-ba-iem/735#post_9915224
I agree on the packaging. And after some first quick listening comparisons, I can only say treasure your EX1000s my friends.
Out of the box, the H3 sound much closer to the XBA-4 than EX1000, but with a boomy / muddy bass that's actually worse than the XBA-4's. Mids are pretty good quality, but too warm because of the bass bloat. Highs are unoffensive, but also unremarkable. Sadly an overall pretty underwhelming first impression, considering the tech involved and price asked for.
I've never experienced substantial change from burn-in, but nevertheless will let them play overnight. These need substantial change to be keepers, sorry to say.
Interesting early impression James. Maybe wider bore tips will help like some have said about the H1 to make the mids and highs more apparent. Very big earphone though. Anyway my take has always been if they were an EX1000 beater they would have had the price tag close to it.
Let's hold out for the XBA-H30
More XBA-H3 sound impressions and a short comparison to the XBA-3 after 20 hours of "burn-in":
I don't think these have been changing much since yesterday, bass is still boomy and dominant no matter which test track I choose. Trying to get a better idea of their tonality, I bring the XBA-3 into the mix... and sure enough, these are even closer to the H3 than the XBA-4. There's nothing of the XBA-4's strangely skewed upper frequencies in the H3 and in fact I'd say the latter's mids and highs sound pretty darn close to the XBA-3's. Their bass, however, is good deal more bloated and obnoxious, so I try to equalize it down to XBA-3 levels.
EQed down by -4db @ 80Hz , the H3's bass quantity starts sounding about on par with the XBA-3's and I can finally try to compare their quality, which, to my ears, is somewhat of a mixed bag. On the one hand the H3's dynamic driver adds slightly more natural timbre and effortlessness to the bass range, but strangely enough, even at comparable amplitudes, the H3's bass sounds a tad worse defined and slightly more blurred than the XBA-3's. There's seems to be something odd going on down there, maybe some kind of interference between DD and BAs, idk, but the H3's low end doesn't sound entirely clean and well controlled to these ears.
Once again bringing the EX1000 into the comparison, it's so immediately apparent how different these are to me, much more linear and controlled in bass and overall just leaner, cleaner and more sophisticated.
That said, for those who love the XBA-3 sound, but would like significantly more bass, the XBA-H3 may be the ticket. As someone who thinks the XBA-3 have more than enough bass punch and would rather trade some mid-bass for a little more deep bass extension, I'd say the XBA-H3 are barking up the wrong tree, as they just add an evenly distributed heap of bass on top of what's already there in the XBA-3.
Sounds disappointing. I was picturing something more along the lines of the 1Plus2, ASG-2, or whatever else has a hybrid design. It's fairly delusional, but you get the idea. The review by other members gives a different impression, though:
Thanks! Thing is, the high end extension they're talking about is already there on the XBA-3, my guess being that the H3's upper mids and treble will probably graph quite similar. The low end is where the impression of "overwhelming" sound may be coming from and it's ultimately a matter of taste. Soundstage is indeed slightly wider on the H3 vs. XBA-3 due to their design, but let's not forget that the H3 go for double the price of the XBA-3 and look much less inconspicuous in your ears. Based on what I've been hearing so far, the H3 are in not in the K3003 / 1plus2 league in my book.
In case I end up returning the H3, I'll possibly take a stab at the H1 (pun intended ).
Very similar to the EX1000, though I'd think those are ultimately even better phones than the 7550 (despite their more problematic treble). Anyway, both IEMs bear an uncanny resemblence, the 7550 being just a bit more mid-centric and laid-back in treble. Listening to the 7550 and H3 side by side, the former sound simply cleaner with more coherent tonality, whereas the latter impress with excellent mids/highs separation on the one hand, but disappoint with bloated and somewhat diffuse bass on the other.
Timbre-wise, the only edge the H3 seem to have over the 7550 are cymbals, 'cause their BAs exhibit more metallic shimmer, but pretty much all other instruments sound more natural on the 7550 to my ears. Putting on Mahler's 2nd (final movement), the 7550 win hands down over the H3 in my book. These are such great value for the money, particularly for classical listeners.
But besides classical, I've also listened to both with pop, rock, jazz and electronica and there were some tracks on which the H3 came close, but not a single one on which I ended up preferring the H3 over the 7550.
= So could the huge discrepancy between the very positive Jpanese impressions vs. the James' be the result of this extremely stiff and rigid diaphragm and the lack of intense burn-in on his sets???
I MEAN WITH ALL THE BRAINS/TECH/BRAND-NAME RE$$$$$$$$$$EARCH BEHIND THESE H3s CAN THEY REALLY SOUND that BAD???
Oh yes it IS another burn-in debate. HE HE HE
Quote: Someone must be weeping in his pants. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
xba h-3 best universal iem in the world.
Bit of history :
^ TRY TO NOT READ AND JUST LET THE GIFs/ MEMEs BE YOUR GUIDE, IT HELPS.
LMAO I think the juggigantics finally got to him. Or should i say he got to them. hoho
Gorb welcomes you.
He was checking to see that you are enjoying your new Cinco IEMs
Speaking of IEMs to keep it sort of halfways on topic... ( what if this was the "Off Topic Thread" then even when we posted randomly it would be ON topic, but at the same time OFF.)
That's a new design on the diaphragms and since there's that plus its the bass one, who knows how it needs to react or get pounded. Look at the nanotubes, do you know what the Liquid Polymer is like I sure don't Obviously it's tensile enough to stay in shape so Liquid being a marketing thing. Have to hear them and beat the living walcers out of them to make sure before passing the buck cause it's easier to do that.
i try nick i try, but you already know my modding/ molding skittles are nowhere near your godly levels so please excuse my noob attempt. : (
Is this better???
Glad you feel at home here, make yourself comfy and just enjoy the ride!!! It's gonna be rough.
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^ Wait are you referring to those juggigantics or to that Sony H3 Liquid Crystal Polymer Film diaphragm. If the former MAD DISAPPOINT cuz i thought we have an expert here. If the latter.... you ain't that good of an expert tbh.
Sorry, I went really off topic for a second - I'm far from being an expert, friend
I was only just told by a colleague that the UERM, comes in either Acrylic or Soft-shell options.
The soft-shell silicon versions require you to send them back to UE twice a year.. I'm far too lazy for that.