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I just came to this thread, and I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

 

Nor do I, but that's half the fun.  Stay a while and enjoy.

post #332 of 2166
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I just came to this thread, and I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

Ask the Bunyip, he knows.

post #333 of 2166
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Dat Sony XBA-H3 Anti-Hype: http://www.head-fi.org/t/680119/sony-xba-h1-and-xba-h3-hybrid-dynamic-and-ba-iem/735#post_9915224

 

Quote: Can a GODLY Sony really be THAT lackluster sounding???
 
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Man dat Ex-1000 box. So classy. H3 total downgrade confirmed wink.gif

 

I agree on the packaging. And after some first quick listening comparisons, I can only say treasure your EX1000s my friends.

 

Out of the box, the H3 sound much closer to the XBA-4 than EX1000, but with a boomy / muddy bass that's actually worse than the XBA-4's. Mids are pretty good quality, but too warm because of the bass bloat. Highs are unoffensive, but also unremarkable. Sadly an overall pretty underwhelming first impression, considering the tech involved and price asked for.

 

I've never experienced substantial change from burn-in, but nevertheless will let them play overnight. These need substantial change to be keepers, sorry to say.

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Quote: Good point, since when has Sony ever been known as bang for the buck material??? Or has this fascination with the new hybrid tech given too many people false hope... hmmm.
 
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Interesting early impression James. Maybe wider bore tips will help like some have said about the H1 to make the mids and highs more apparent. Very big earphone though. Anyway my take has always been if they were an EX1000 beater they would have had the price tag close to it.

 

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Quote: ekey boi be trollin'. A bit Twi-Hard but gets the message across pretty effectively. :cool:
 
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Dammit, Sony!

 

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Let's hold out for the XBA-H30

 

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Quote: oh boi that doesn't sound good at all. :triportsad:
 

More XBA-H3 sound impressions and a short comparison to the XBA-3 after 20 hours of "burn-in":

 

I don't think these have been changing much since yesterday, bass is still boomy and dominant no matter which test track I choose. Trying to get a better idea of their tonality, I bring the XBA-3 into the mix... and sure enough, these are even closer to the H3 than the XBA-4. There's nothing of the XBA-4's strangely skewed upper frequencies in the H3 and in fact I'd say the latter's mids and highs sound pretty darn close to the XBA-3's. Their bass, however, is good deal more bloated and obnoxious, so I try to equalize it down to XBA-3 levels.

 

EQed down by -4db @ 80Hz , the H3's bass quantity starts sounding about on par with the XBA-3's and I can finally try to compare their quality, which, to my ears, is somewhat of a mixed bag. On the one hand the H3's dynamic driver adds slightly more natural timbre and effortlessness to the bass range, but strangely enough, even at comparable amplitudes, the H3's bass sounds a tad worse defined and slightly more blurred than the XBA-3's. There's seems to be something odd going on down there, maybe some kind of interference between DD and BAs, idk, but the H3's low end doesn't sound entirely clean and well controlled to these ears.

 

Once again bringing the EX1000 into the comparison, it's so immediately apparent how different these are to me, much more linear and controlled in bass and overall just leaner, cleaner and more sophisticated.

 

That said, for those who love the XBA-3 sound, but would like significantly more bass, the XBA-H3 may be the ticket. As someone who thinks the XBA-3 have more than enough bass punch and would rather trade some mid-bass for a little more deep bass extension, I'd say the XBA-H3 are barking up the wrong tree, as they just add an evenly distributed heap of bass on top of what's already there in the XBA-3.

 

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Quote: What could have caused this huge discrepancy......??? Are the Jpnese drinking too much of that Sony Kool-Aid???
 
Wow.. Seems like those early Japanese impressions were WAY off the mark. Kinda worried about the new 887 Walkman now :l

 

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Quote: LoL peps are ready to Schiit on Sony real BAD.
 
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Oh come on. You guys are gonna let James, with his limited experience, feeble IEM collection and general evil doing, influence your IEM buying habits?

This is the new Sony creme de la creme. You saw the diagrams. You read the interviews. These are the ticket. Now man up and slam that cash on the virtual table.

You're welcome.

 

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Quote: I think A LOT of people were thinking along those lines as well Beaver dood.
 
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post
 

More XBA-H3 sound impressions and a short comparison to the XBA-3 after 20 hours of "burn-in":....

 

Sounds disappointing. I was picturing something more along the lines of the 1Plus2, ASG-2, or whatever else has a hybrid design. It's fairly delusional, but you get the idea. The review by other members gives a different impression, though:

 

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Quote: LMAO this troll. No ish Sherlock give Sony 1+ grand and you just might. :rolleyes:
 
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Best hybrid by far is still the K3003 lol

 

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Quote: haha the Birdies have had enough of that Sony BS and is ready to take a schiit...... dirty!!!
 
Wow. Nothing to see here. Time to move along.
 
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Ah to think that at one point the Ex-1000 guy was pinned to the H series. C'est la vie

 

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Quote: LoL. Poor things.
 
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Thanks! Thing is, the high end extension they're talking about is already there on the XBA-3, my guess being that the H3's upper mids and treble will probably graph quite similar. The low end is where the impression of "overwhelming" sound may be coming from and it's ultimately a matter of taste. Soundstage is indeed slightly wider on the H3 vs. XBA-3 due to their design, but let's not forget that the H3 go for double the price of the XBA-3 and look much less inconspicuous in your ears. Based on what I've been hearing so far, the H3 are in not in the K3003 / 1plus2 league in my book.

 

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In case I end up returning the H3, I'll possibly take a stab at the H1 (pun intended ;)).

 

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Very similar to the EX1000, though I'd think those are ultimately even better phones than the 7550 (despite their more problematic treble). Anyway, both IEMs bear an uncanny resemblence, the 7550 being just a bit more mid-centric and laid-back in treble. Listening to the 7550 and H3 side by side, the former sound simply cleaner with more coherent tonality, whereas the latter impress with excellent mids/highs separation on the one hand, but disappoint with bloated and somewhat diffuse bass on the other.

 

Timbre-wise, the only edge the H3 seem to have over the 7550 are cymbals, 'cause their BAs exhibit more metallic shimmer, but pretty much all other instruments sound more natural on the 7550 to my ears. Putting on Mahler's 2nd (final movement), the 7550 win hands down over the H3 in my book. These are such great value for the money, particularly for classical listeners.

 

But besides classical, I've also listened to both with pop, rock, jazz and electronica and there were some tracks on which the H3 came close, but not a single one on which I ended up preferring the H3 over the 7550.

 

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Quote: OK he has a great point there, since these are hybrids using "Liquid Crystal Polymer Film diaphragm" with a dedicated dynamic bass driver.
 
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

I agree on the packaging. And after some first quick listening comparisons, I can only say treasure your EX1000s my friends.

Out of the box, the H3 sound much closer to the XBA-4 than EX1000, but with a boomy / muddy bass that's actually worse than the XBA-4's. Mids are pretty good quality, but too warm because of the bass bloat. Highs are unoffensive, but also unremarkable. Sadly an overall pretty underwhelming first impression, considering the tech involved and price asked for.

I've never experienced substantial change from burn-in, but nevertheless will let them play overnight. These need substantial change to be keepers, sorry to say.

Hmmm... I had a bit of suspicion the second they mentioned that the new phones were tuned with the assistance of some music duo (?). I guess it's important to note that these phones do utilize full range drivers so I suppose anything can happen, but yeah, pretty underwhelming first impressions. I hope they do exhibit some change, the tech involved is far too intriguing

 

= So could the huge discrepancy between the very positive Jpanese impressions vs. the James' be the result of this extremely stiff and rigid diaphragm and the lack of intense burn-in on his sets???

 

I MEAN WITH ALL THE BRAINS/TECH/BRAND-NAME RE$$$$$$$$$$EARCH BEHIND THESE H3s CAN THEY REALLY SOUND that BAD???

 

DISCUSS!!! :popcorn:

 

 

Oh yes it IS another burn-in debate. HE HE HE

 

 

Quote: Someone must be weeping in his pants. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :evil:

 
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xba h-3 best universal iem in the world.


Edited by sfwalcer - 10/25/13 at 5:52pm
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Bit of history :

 

  • In 1852 a Dog-faced Bunyip was observed in Lake Tiberias, Tasmania. It was described as being 4 to 4˝ feet long, with a head like a bulldog and black shaggy fur. While rowing across Great Lake, Tasmania, Charles Headlam and a friend almost bumped into a Dog-faced Bunyip. They described it as being about the size of a fully-grown sheepdog, and having two small wing-like flippers. The Bunyip stayed at the top of the water until it swam out of view.
  • In 1872 three men watched a Dog-faced Bunyip swimming in Midgeon Lagoon, New South Wales for about a half-hour. One of the men gave the following first-hand description to the Wagga Wagga Advertiser: Half as long again as an ordinary retriever dog; the hair all over its body was jet-black and shining, its coat was very long, the hair spreading out on the surface of the water for about 5 inches, and floating loosely as the creature rose and fell by its own motion. I could not detect any tail, and the hair about its head was too long and glossy to admit of my seeing its eyes; the ears were well marked.
  • In 1886 some horsemen were fording a river near Canberra reported seeing a Dog-faced Bunyip, which was about the size of a dog and had a white coat. They threw stones at the Bunyip until it was out of sight. A similar beast was shot at in New South Wales; it retreated into a lagoon and was said to make a grunting sound. Then in 1890 an expedition by the Melbourne Zoo failed to capture a Bunyip commonly seen in the Euroa district near Victoria. Bernard Heuvelmans reports Bunyip sightings from as recently as 1932 near large hydroelectric dams in Tasmania.
  • In 2013 a handful of audio enthusiasts attending an annual convention in the Western United States encountered what at first appeared to be a cardboard box covered in shaggy hair. It was said to have large multifaceted eyes and a long protruding snout.  The creature was startled and began to hastily retreat in a moonwalking fashion from the audio enthusiasts, who began throwing batteries and small IEMs at the creature. Described as making a muttering "mang mang mang" sound, it dove into a local ravine and has not been encountered since.

Edited by nick n - 10/25/13 at 6:04pm
post #335 of 2166

Seems like my kind of thread already.

 

Lavc52.72.2

post #336 of 2166
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

I just came to this thread, and I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

^ TRY TO NOT READ AND JUST LET THE GIFs/ MEMEs BE YOUR GUIDE, IT HELPS. ;)

 

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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

Seems like my kind of thread already.

 

Lavc52.72.2

LMAO I think the juggigantics finally got to him. Or should i say he got to them. hoho

 

1000... you're welcome, you're a BIG boi now. :cool:

post #337 of 2166
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

Seems like my kind of thread already.

 

Lavc52.72.2

You still have a thing for Mrs. Crabtree?  I think she's dead by now.

post #338 of 2166

what a shoddy job on that baseboard molding there SF, posting stuff like that   look  closer next time.

post #339 of 2166

I think I can already summarise this thread:

 

 

...I have found my new home. Hello

post #340 of 2166
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

I think I can already summarise this thread:

 

 

...I have found my new home. Hello

 

Gorb welcomes you.

 

He was checking  to see that you are enjoying your new Cinco IEMs

 

 

 

 

Speaking of IEMs to keep it sort of halfways on topic... ( what if this was the "Off Topic Thread" then even when we posted randomly it would be ON topic, but at the same time OFF.)

 

That's a new design on the diaphragms and since there's that plus its the bass one, who knows how it needs to react or get pounded. Look at the nanotubes, do you know what the Liquid Polymer is like I sure don't Obviously it's tensile enough to stay in shape so Liquid being a marketing thing. Have to hear them and beat the living  walcers out of them to make sure before passing the buck cause it's easier to do that.


Edited by nick n - 10/25/13 at 6:14pm
post #341 of 2166
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nick n View Post
 

what a shoddy job on that baseboard molding there SF, posting stuff like that   look  closer next time.

i try nick i try, but you already know my modding/ molding skittles are nowhere near your godly levels so please excuse my noob attempt. :  (

 

Is this better???

PhotoScape... :tongue:

 

 

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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

I think I can already summarise this thread:

 

 

...I have found my new home. Hello

Glad you feel at home here, make yourself comfy and just enjoy the ride!!! It's gonna be rough. :veryevil:

 

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Originally Posted by nick n View Post
 

 

Gorb welcomes you.

 

He was checking  to see that you are enjoying your new Cinco IEMs

 

 

 

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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Edited by sfwalcer - 10/25/13 at 6:37pm
post #342 of 2166

Apparently if you get heat-sensitive material instead of acrylic UE customs, they require you to send them back twice a year for maintenance. And they attenuate less, also.

post #343 of 2166
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

 

Is this better???

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
PhotoScape... :tongue:

 

That, my friend, is called TORTURE!

 

Regarding the H3's, I have a feeling they are gonna work out all right. Burn in might be the key. Or proper pairings. Or something!

post #344 of 2166
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

Apparently if you get heat-sensitive material instead of acrylic UE customs, they require you to send them back twice a year for maintenance. And they attenuate less, also.


^ Wait are you referring to those juggigantics or to that Sony H3 Liquid Crystal Polymer Film diaphragm. If the former MAD DISAPPOINT cuz i thought we have an expert here. If the latter.... you ain't that good of an expert tbh.:blink:

post #345 of 2166

Sorry, I went really off topic for a second - I'm far from being an expert, friend :tongue_smile:

 

 

I was only just told by a colleague that the UERM, comes in either Acrylic or Soft-shell options.

 

The soft-shell silicon versions require you to send them back to UE twice a year.. I'm far too lazy for that.

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