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HTC One M8 even better.

Do we have measurements of both phones somewhere comparing them?

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Do we have measurements of both phones somewhere comparing them?

 

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5_vs_htc_one_m8-review-1067p7.php

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iPhone 5S Measurements

HTC One M8 Measurements

Both from the same measurement rig. RMAA measurements don't tell the whole story, but information is power so... there you go.

Might need to use a translation service.
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Should be interesting to see if the iphone 6 improves things when it (probably) lands in a few weeks.

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iPhone 5S Measurements

HTC One M8 Measurements

Both from the same measurement rig. RMAA measurements don't tell the whole story, but information is power so... there you go.

Might need to use a translation service.

These are unloaded measurements. Hence of little use to explain the performance with headphones attached.

Anyway i have tried the M8 and while good it is not able to match the clarity of the 5s.


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i am currently using iphone 5c plus astell and kern ak10 for my current set up while waiting for the ibasso dx90.

the sound with the es700, c5, heaven 6, cl are fantastic!!

 

more instrument separation and soundstage, less the harshness, better clarity and details too!

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If there are any iFenceSitters in the US, Verizon has an amazing deal now -- including 32 and 64 GB models. Half price with new contracts. There service is actually reasonable, for the first time I can remember, also.


Edited by Baroninkjet - 8/26/14 at 9:30pm
post #368 of 372

Hey people,

 

Ive read so many posts here that the sound of the iPhone 5c/5s is outstanding! What I

think is, that its noticeably better than many other devices, even some laptops, but Im

not satisfied with its sound in combination with my HD 25s. I even use sonic max pro,

but the sound is not even close to my stereo system with the HD 25s. I hear a hiss and

the sound is not very full!

 

Does anyone know if I can get a portable device for under 500 bucks with a better sound?

My idea was an old android device, like the Nexus 1 with vodoo sound or a portable DAC/amp.

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go to the DX90 route ;)

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Originally Posted by Confusius View Post
 

Hey people,

 

Ive read so many posts here that the sound of the iPhone 5c/5s is outstanding! What I

think is, that its noticeably better than many other devices, even some laptops, but Im

not satisfied with its sound in combination with my HD 25s. I hear a hiss and

the sound is not very full!q

 

Which model of HD 25 are you using? And which model of iPhone (5s or 5c)?

 

I'm using HD 25 1-II headphones with the 5s and the sound quality is awesome - full, rich sound and absolutely no hiss whatsoever.

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From my experience, 5c has inferior sound to 4s. This is me, loving warmth of analog era.

5c has better resolution, so good that it allows you to resolve the inefficiencies in the digital encoding. It sound too digital to me, I can hear some modulation noise.

4s is warmer and more holistic, I cannot hear gaps or digital whistling, even in lower bitrates.

As much as I liked 5c smartphone part, I hated its music.

I also listened to 5s for about 30 minutes, and it is better thab 5c (punchier bass, there's more dynamic range and it felt powerful) but I found it lacking musicality in the same manner - there is brute power and resolution, but I was missing vocal immediacy, beauty and warmth. They both kind of "remoted" vocal emotions, whereas 4s with SQ5 gives me shivers as if they're singing right in my ear. Every miniscule emotional tone is there. Not so with 5c/s. It is sad really, that I cannot upgrade. I will try iPhone 6 next.

I do not listen to rock, mostly vocals and world pop (not mainstream/US).

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From my experience, 5c has inferior sound to 4s. This is me, loving warmth of analog era.

5c has better resolution, so good that it allows you to resolve the inefficiencies in the digital encoding. It sound too digital to me, I can hear some modulation noise.

4s is warmer and more holistic, I cannot hear gaps or digital whistling, even in lower bitrates.

As much as I liked 5c smartphone part, I hated its music.

I also listened to 5s for about 30 minutes, and it is better thab 5c (punchier bass, there's more dynamic range and it felt powerful) but I found it lacking musicality in the same manner - there is brute power and resolution, but I was missing vocal immediacy, beauty and warmth. They both kind of "remoted" vocal emotions, whereas 4s with SQ5 gives me shivers as if they're singing right in my ear. Every miniscule emotional tone is there. Not so with 5c/s. It is sad really, that I cannot upgrade. I will try iPhone 6 next.

I do not listen to rock, mostly vocals and world pop (not mainstream/US).

 

I remember people making the same comparison between the "4" generation devices and the ones that came before, and saying the iphone 4/4S/ipod touch 4G are too cold.

 

This is also the same change that occurred between the ipod video and ipod classic. The earlier an ipod, the warmer/more analog the sound. And Apple has been consistently traveling on the road to a brighter, sharper sound.

 

Modulation noise is almost to be expected with class-D amps, the manufacturer's s execution will determine how much of it we hear. I thought Apple's execution is probably the best I've ever heard on a portable player, way better than some of the older ones Sony and Sharp have used, but as you can see from what I've written, everybody's got a different cup of tea.

 

For me, no modern device can render vocals as emotionally as certain Panasonic players from the 90s, so I don't expect to be wowed in that aspect. Sony and Apple's signature sounds are also designed to take vocals away from your ears (more so with sony), that's two strikes against the idea. So I tend to just focus on what they do best, which in Apple's case is resolution, which the 5C/5S and even the ipod shuffle does very well, like no other consumer-grade competition.


Edited by heatofamatch - 10/6/14 at 2:24pm
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