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post #16 of 62
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I live in Philly and can't find any stores. I've heard the sr80i... Too long ago to remember how they sound.
post #17 of 62
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I live in Philly and can't find any stores. I've heard the sr80i... Too long ago to remember how they sound.

http://gradolabs.com/page_dealers_search.php?type=dealer&order=name

 

The Grado Labs website says there are 3 dealers in philly: bridge set sound, community audio, and david lewis audio. If you can't demo them, I'd recommend a cheaper set like the sr60 which are around $80 on Long Island, it's less stressful to mod the sr60 too in my opinion. :x

post #18 of 62

Another option for improved bass is tape-modded L-cushions.

 

I enjoy 225i the most of the SR series for rock. I agree about starting with 60i instead of 80i if you might be only trying them out because the treble on 80i almost completely overwhelms the bass.

post #19 of 62
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I bought the sr80i in January, back when I couldn't hear like I hear today. Didn't know what I liked back then. My music was mostly not greatly recorded, and were around 256kbps. Needles to say, my previous assessment of the sr80i lacking bass and being one dimensional may have been unjustified.
post #20 of 62
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Needles to say, my previous assessment of the sr80i lacking bass and being one dimensional may have been unjustified.

 

You're right that they lack bass. I'm not sure what you mean by "one dimensional."

post #21 of 62
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Needles to say, my previous assessment of the sr80i lacking bass and being one dimensional may have been unjustified.

 

You're right that they lack bass. I'm not sure what you mean by "one dimensional."


He pretty much said that he was wrong when stating that they were "lacking bass."  Back when SR-80's were equipped with bowls, it was common knowledge that their bass came out when paired with an amp.

 

Indeed, Grados have plenty of bass with the right amp.  They particularly like output-transformer-coupled tube amps.  The other factor to consider is that throughout the lineup, as you go up in price, you pretty much increase the bass, too.

 

I've heard bass notes on my HF-2's that I haven't heard on other headphones.  I think the PS-500 is the same.

post #22 of 62
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He pretty much said that he was wrong when stating that they were "lacking bass."  Back when SR-80's were equipped with bowls, it was common knowledge that their bass came out when paired with an amp.

 

Indeed, Grados have plenty of bass with the right amp.  They particularly like output-transformer-coupled tube amps.  The other factor to consider is that throughout the lineup, as you go up in price, you pretty much increase the bass, too.

 

I've heard bass notes on my HF-2's that I haven't heard on other headphones.  I think the PS-500 is the same.

 

And I'm saying he's right: the SR series lacks bass. Amping them doesn't change that. I should know, I usually use an amp with 80i for more open sound and more full-bodied treble.

 

According to FR charts, 60i has the most bass of the SR line. My listening experience is that 325is does, followed by 60i (but I disliked 325is enough that I didn't want to bother getting to know it well).

 

The more expensive Grados do, indeed, have more bass. But I'd wouldn't recommend buying an expensive Grado before trying a cheap one.

post #23 of 62
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He pretty much said that he was wrong when stating that they were "lacking bass."  Back when SR-80's were equipped with bowls, it was common knowledge that their bass came out when paired with an amp.

 

Indeed, Grados have plenty of bass with the right amp.  They particularly like output-transformer-coupled tube amps.  The other factor to consider is that throughout the lineup, as you go up in price, you pretty much increase the bass, too.

 

I've heard bass notes on my HF-2's that I haven't heard on other headphones.  I think the PS-500 is the same.

 

And I'm saying he's right: the SR series lacks bass. Amping them doesn't change that. I should know, I usually use an amp with 80i for more open sound and more full-bodied treble.

 

According to FR charts, 60i has the most bass of the SR line. My listening experience is that 325is does, followed by 60i (but I disliked 325is enough that I didn't want to bother getting to know it well).

 

The more expensive Grados do, indeed, have more bass. But I'd wouldn't recommend buying an expensive Grado before trying a cheap one.


The SR-80 used to be sold with bowls.  It made a difference.  Only the SR-60 came with flats.  You could easily tell that the bass ran an extra octave almost with every step up in the line, from SR-60 to SR-225.  (I agree with you on the SR-325, unless the 325i is different.)

 

I still say it takes the right amp, though.  You may think they're powered OK, but they may not be.  Grados need lots of current impulse.  Many amps supply mostly voltage gain, not current impulse.

post #24 of 62

some people have described the hd598 as grado-like with forward upper mids. It still has the typical neutral sennheiser bass quantity.

post #25 of 62
There are not that many genre's where I think the Grado bass is sub-par, I actually enjoy the sound of the bass guitar in rock genres and think the kick drums are well done too. Unless he enjoys the pipe-organ, didgeridoo(we all do from time to time;) ), and deep synthesized notes(in which case I recommend subwoofers in a car for the 20db rise at 20 Hz over a headset since deep bass is more a full body sensation) he should not worry about the bass too much. But again, I strongly recommend to anyone to test headphones out before purchase.
post #26 of 62

Only solution is getting flat pads. Remind you guys that Grado headphones were actually designed with flat pads first.

post #27 of 62
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There are not that many genre's where I think the Grado bass is sub-par, I actually enjoy the sound of the bass guitar in rock genres and think the kick drums are well done too. Unless he enjoys the pipe-organ [...]

 

I actually bought my 80i to listen to Bach's organ works after reading a thread about Grados for organ and experimenting with KSC75 amped.

post #28 of 62
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I actually bought my 80i to listen to Bach's organ works after reading a thread about Grados for organ and experimenting with KSC75 amped.
Granted I have not attempt organ on my Grados yet, but that really surprises me! :O was it because you amped them? My setup currently lacks the funds for an amplifier.
post #29 of 62
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Granted I have not attempt organ on my Grados yet, but that really surprises me! :O was it because you amped them? My setup currently lacks the funds for an amplifier.

Yeah, I wouldn't have thought it either. It plays Bach well without an amp too. I didn't start amping it consistently till later.
post #30 of 62
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I don't listen to intrumental, or many orchestral peices. If I were to, I've got that covered. I'd be getting a Grado simply for J-rock really, which rely on great instrument separation, vocals, bass guitar, electric guitars, and high frequencies.
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