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I was also skeptical myself but the fact is I had an open mind and didn't mind trying different things. Even if it prooved my own biases wrong.

 

The fun thing being that I concur with your entire statement but arrived at the opposite conclusion. ;)

post #722 of 1307

Must not be open-minded enough then lol :P.

post #723 of 1307
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I was also skeptical myself but the fact is I had an open mind and didn't mind trying different things. Even if it prooved my own biases wrong.

 

The problem with sound is that because of mastering the differences in quality between HD and SD are not always as obvious as for example in video (where the difference between HD and SD is always very noticeable and fairly constant and its there for everyone to easily see right away in store displays).

But with music mastering is key and that is so often hit and miss - so that badly mastered files can randomly sound even better (less offensive) on poor devices with mp3's as they can on superior hardware with hires files.

Of course high quality mastering + top of the line hardware + hires files is a real ear opener - but unfortunately due to high prices and not having this widely available in stores to sample most people never convince themselves that it's worth getting all the way there and therefore never get to experience it.

post #724 of 1307

Sadly that is the reality of it. It's always about quanity over quality in this day and age. **** sells. What more can be said ;)...

post #725 of 1307
I cant keep up with all the releases and threads these days.
I have put my shopping on pause for a year or two until the dust settles from the plethora of options available now and the upcoming future.
post #726 of 1307
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I think it's better to get a good smartphone with a decent DAC, or use an Android-compatible usb DAC/AMP via OTG cable, than spending big money in a pseudo-audiophile DAP with crappy software/hardware match.

The USB interface itself should limit performance. Doesn't mean it can't sound better but if it does, the DAP maker got it wrong. Best should be good dac inside a DAP with a separate amp but I also don't ever want to carry an amp/dac again. Some smart phones may fit your profile sans external DAC but I still prefer some of the better DAPs I've listened to.

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... spending big money in a pseudo-audiophile DAP with crappy software/hardware match.

Never mind what's been said on this thread...I suggest you try the bargain of the year... DX50 with v1.2.8 firmware

post #728 of 1307
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I have put my shopping on pause for a year or two until the dust settles from the plethora of options available now and the upcoming future.
Smart decision
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I am kinda interested in Hugo..but i dont see myself carrying outside bcos its expensive and dont want to draw attention from strangers

But If i only use it at home ....

Another first world problem added in this thread
post #730 of 1307
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Never mind what's been said on this thread...I suggest you try the bargain of the year... DX50 with v1.2.8 firmware

This thread is excellent but from what ive heard i think you may be right.How much can you get it for now.Buy it and expect bugs but die for the sound:eek:

post #731 of 1307
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Never mind what's been said on this thread...I suggest you try the bargain of the year... DX50 with v1.2.8 firmware

 

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This thread is excellent but from what ive heard i think you may be right.How much can you get it for now.Buy it and expect bugs but die for the sound:eek:

 

You might want to wait just a little bit longer, as there are a some DX50 owners who are saying the $350 FiiO X5 beats it for "sound" and there are very few UI complaints getting posted.   In other words, I'm actually thinking the X5 could be the DAP that rescues those of us who resonate with this thread.  

 

(I realize the DX50 sells for $239, so it's only a fair comparison in the context of $1000+ DAPs.)

 

ClieOS speaks:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-thread-info-updated-on-jan-17th-2014/3945#post_10222712

 

Mike

Still waiting...


Edited by zilch0md - 1/31/14 at 6:12am
post #732 of 1307
Thread Starter 
I definitely would wait until the bugs get worked out before buying a new DAP. The DX50 was a nightmare for me and I think the X5 will have it's own bugs but I'm more confident that Fiio will work out the bugs a lot faster and it will probably have fewer bugs compared to the DX50 release. The sound quality of the DX50 is okay, it's not the giant killer people are making it out to be. I know that's probably an unpopular view to post on these boards but that's how I heard it. Some people may not like reading what I just posted but it's the honest truth of what I heard. I've read a few posts comparing the AK129 to the DX50. The DX50 owners have been saying that their player outperforms the AK120. I own a AK120 and a DX50. The DX50 doesn't come close to the AK120. Yes the AK120 is pricey but it's sonically superior to the DX 50. Don't fall for the hype generated by people out to hype something because they're brand lovers.
post #733 of 1307

As of v1.2.8 all previous bugs appear to have been ironed out.

 

If you want a good performing player without paying through the nose for it - the DX50 can't be beat (at that price point)

 

p.s. I'm not a fanboy - I sold mine

post #734 of 1307
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Mine was recently updated and it still freezes, therefore, either my hardware is faulty or all the bugs haven't yet been ironed out. Like I said, it sounds ok but it's not the giant killer some people make it out to be. By the way, yours was fully functional why did you sell yours?
post #735 of 1307
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

Mine was recently updated and it still freezes, therefore, either my hardware is faulty or all the bugs haven't yet been ironed out. Like I said, it sounds ok but it's not the giant killer some people make it out to be. By the way, yours was fully functional why did you sell yours?

It must be your hardware or something about your files that is causing the freezes. I haven't seen other references to freezes since 1.2.8. If its not hardware then there must be a bug that is only highlighted by a set of very specific circumstances.
I sold mine because I've been spoilt by the DX100 and it can't match it. A friend bought it and he loves it and has not reported any issues so far.
I updated it to v1.2.8 for him and asked him to let me know of any strange behaviour.
However he is still running my SD card with my music on it...which is impeccably named and tagged.
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