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post #211 of 1199

Sadly I have to agree with the OP.  My opinion is no support or updates = no money from me

 

Although that been said, I have nearly very little gripes about the Cowon J3 other than there really has been nothing worth while to replace it.

post #212 of 1199
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Originally Posted by tgdinamo View Post

Tera player does not have that problem (or problem with frequent firmware updates or bloated unnecessary features such as screen and pause button wink_face.gif ).
But to avoid all those problems and unnecessary features you have to pay the absolute premium price (as a bonus you also get the most incredible SQ, truly pocketable size, and great battery life).  

Tera is too expensive for me, not to mention the tedious effort to rerip files back to wav
post #213 of 1199

I agree with some aspects but on the other hand it's amazing to be able to get the sound quality I hear for a price that is nowhere near too high.

 

For critical listening I use iBasso D4 with OPA1612 or ODAC and Meier Corda MOVE or iBasso T5. I find this to sound amazing. I mostly use RE262, but other often used IEMs are RE0 and Brainwavz B2 to have a brighter sound.

On-the-go I have a few set-ups. First there is my trusty Clip+, it goes very nicely together with my Earsonics SM3 and with Rockbox I can play any format I want. I use folders with collections to play from, works very well for me. Clip+ has a micro-sd-slot and some memory built-in.

When I still had a iBasso T4, the set-up made my RE0 shine.

Another set-up I use on-the-go or next to bed is Sony F805 with RE0. This is an amazing combo as well and sounds better then Clip+ with T4 from memory at least. RE0 becomes warmer, no sibilance at all and more forward vocals, I love it!

F805 only has built-in memory and the USB connection is exotic but it plays all formats and my folderplay works just as I want it.

Last set-up is Fiio X3 with iBasso T5. SQ is on par with my critical listening set-up. X3's amp sounds less wide and because T5 is such a tiny amp and I get more playtime with the combo, I never looked back.

X3 has a micro-sd-slot and built-in memory. The UI is not great but folderplay works just the same, I only needed to search for another format then I used on my other players. I mostly use the hybrid (lossy + correction file) wavpack file format. Another letdown is NO replaygain, aaaaarrrrggggghhhhh. Really?

The solution, amplifying each individual song with audacity to get a 0.00 replaygain value, yes this sucks but I don't have terrabytes of music I take with me. Actually I only listen to a small selection of music when I use X3+T5 on-the-go.

This all works for me and I think the current audio hardware reaches a level I am very happy about.

post #214 of 1199
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post


Tera is too expensive for me, not to mention the tedious effort to rerip files back to wav

 

I agree it's very expensive so that plus the screen-less UI turns most people off. As far as ripping files is concerned, instead of doing that with my CD collection I decided to start over and slowly start re-building my favorite music exclusively in HD via HDTracks (or DVD-A and BluRay Audio where possible) - of course that just makes the whole Tera proposition even more expensive. Then again, the Tera SQ is so good (with good sources of course - it is hard to believe possible until you hear it first hand) so I still have no regrets about spending the money.

post #215 of 1199
Here's a new thread of seemingly serious complaints about the DX50:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/683768/avoid-please-for-your-hearing-stay-away-from-ibasso-dx50
post #216 of 1199

all these complains and yet people will continue to buy the next "audiophile" dap, exceptional value, excellent sound, lol!

post #217 of 1199

Sometimes I think maybe I should get an iPod Classic and buy M8 and go on with it. I hope X5 will deliver friendly UI with quality finish. Then our problems will be solved.

 

In the meantime, I stay away from DX50 and wish their owners a safe listening. If I got a hearing damage or something, I wouldn't be as calm as that user who opened a thread.

post #218 of 1199

Ipod and M8 or CLAS or any other external DAC+amp combo doesn't add flac support to the so-called user-friendly Apple products so for a lot of users it will mean recoding their music library. Isn't that exactly what we want to avoid?

post #219 of 1199
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

Sometimes I think maybe I should get an iPod Classic and buy M8 and go on with it. I hope X5 will deliver friendly UI with quality finish. Then our problems will be solved.

 

In the meantime, I stay away from DX50 and wish their owners a safe listening. If I got a hearing damage or something, I wouldn't be as calm as that user who opened a thread.

 

 

I also have high hopes for X5.I think James reads this forum regularly and will address a lot of our concerns...

post #220 of 1199
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Originally Posted by s0lar View Post

Ipod and M8 or CLAS or any other external DAC+amp combo doesn't add flac support to the so-called user-friendly Apple products so for a lot of users it will mean recoding their music library. Isn't that exactly what we want to avoid?

Nope, there's apps available on the App Store that play FLAC
post #221 of 1199
Yes, there are stacks of apps that play FLAC.

I use flacplayer app on my ipod touch 4g 64gb, Hifi-M8 set up.
post #222 of 1199

I think what you need is a AK120 :wink_face: With its current firmware its fully baked in my opinion. Been using its for months everyday while travelling to school. Not one bit of problem. Only problem i had with it was the price. It made a big whole in my pocket and created a nagging girlfriend .... haha  All in all i think it was great.

post #223 of 1199

I'll subscribe to this thread and read posts later after I get some sleep. To add to the opinion pool though, I don't think I'll ever pay more than $300 for a portable media player (my magic rule of no more than $300 per audio component). I heard a DX100 at a local meet and although it sounded warm relaxing next to my Clip Zip, it's not nearly worth the ~21x asking price. That and the user interface was absolute garbage and slow, and the size of the thing was ridiculous. There's no way I'm going to carry that thing around in my pocket even if it fits.

 

Similarly for the HM-601, it was warm-sounding and Rockbox compatible. Its insane impedance curves, form factor, and dollar-store-worthy build-quality make it way out of my realm of practical portable media players to use. It seriously felt like a cheap toy one would find at a dollar store "Made in China." Ironically, it is made in China.

 

AK100: I bet the engineers are laughing their butts off with the 23-ohm (or some ridiculous number) output impedance. I even read they're releasing a "fixed" version since they didn't get it right in the first place and to let the $$$ roll in.


Edited by miceblue - 9/30/13 at 2:00am
post #224 of 1199

I can't say I agree with you at all on the comparison of the DX100 and Hifiman 601. Not even anywhere near sounding like one another IMO. I think the gear you also pair with these devices will play a major role in telling them apart in terms of quality sound. My Fuze was not even close to comparing to the DX100. The price was very nice and the useability a huge plus. Based on sound, no comparison at all.

post #225 of 1199
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post
 

Similarly for the HM-601, it was warm-sounding and Rockbox compatible. Its insane impedance curves, form factor, and dollar-store-worthy build-quality make it way out of my realm of practical portable media players to use. It seriously felt like a cheap toy one would find at a dollar store "Made in China." Ironically, it is made in China.

 

 


I agree about HM-601, it was an experience to say the least. The build quality was something of a $2 store, (all plasticky, a total brick to use even around the house, always asking to be charged.  Requiring you to rename every track 01,02,03 at the beginning to play in order and the UI felt like you were controlling a remote control dinosaur. The sound however was ok, but I feel a player like Colorfly C3 easily had it beaten for $100 in that department. The impedance curves of HM-601 are another story all together.

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