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post #151 of 1303
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post
 

Well geez sorry I'm such a doofus...

lol I assumed someone would say that ;-) I'm referring to the person with horrible grammar, punctuation, speech, etc. (hotfever). A trollfail if I've ever seen one.

post #152 of 1303
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I've never really felt the need to upgrade my portable system. It's based on the samsung galaxy s i9000, with voodoo sound. It's pretty much been my phone and mp3 player for over two years.

 

As a phone it's a timeless smarphone. It does everything I need a smartphone to do really. And as an mp3 player... well, it's almost indistinguishable to my ears against the Colorfly C3. Plenty good enough at this too I'd say.

 

With a great battery life, awesome ruggedness in build, physical volume buttons on the side (crucial) and solid reliability as a phone, it's just irreplaceable to my pockets. 

 

 

Hey another I9K fanboy. Theres two of us now. If you are rooted load up viper4android it makes this phone into a dream.

post #153 of 1303

Yeah, the SGS is pretty good, mine is going strong even after more than 3 years but C3 clearly pushes out a lot more detail than it. It also can't even touch it in the battery life department. 


Edited by kova4a - 9/26/13 at 6:29pm
post #154 of 1303
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Yeah, the SGS is pretty good, mine is going strong even after more than 3 years but C3 clearly pushes out a lot more detail than it. It also can't even touch it in the battery life department. 

 

To be fair, with bigger headphones like the k550 / sig pro or denon d7k, I could tell that yep, the C3 has a better midrange in detailing winning in instrument separation more than anything else.

 

But with smaller, portable, headphones (iem's, senn momentum and others) they perform very similarly. 

post #155 of 1303
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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post
 

 

 

Hey another I9K fanboy. Theres two of us now. If you are rooted load up viper4android it makes this phone into a dream.

 

viper4android...interesting.

 

It's rooted as it needed to be for voodoo sound, but I have stuck with the stock rom. With it being rooted I just took off plenty of stock bloatwear and it works good enough. Voodoo lagfix probably helps speed things up too.

post #156 of 1303
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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post
 

 

To be fair, with bigger headphones like the k550 / sig pro or denon d7k, I could tell that yep, the C3 has a better midrange in detailing winning in instrument separation more than anything else.

 

But with smaller, portable, headphones (iem's, senn momentum and others) they perform very similarly. 

 

Nah, I've been comparing it mainly with iems and I can always tell the difference in detail and separation. In i9000's defense the gr07 mk2 did have better synergy with it than with c3.

And yeah, while I'm using a jellybean ROM now the stock 2.3.6 is still the best IMO


Edited by kova4a - 9/26/13 at 6:40pm
post #157 of 1303
Forgot to mention that the HRT microStreamer reportedly works with CCK on iDevices now - another compact option for those who can deal with the fact that it doesnt mate neatly with your iTouch/iPhone (I would have added iPad, but does ANYTHING mate neatly with that thing ??) biggrin.gif
post #158 of 1303
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

 

More cushion for the pushin' wink.gif.

 



I'm absolutely convinced that you and I have worked in the same office at some stage - if not in this lifetime, then definitely in a former lifetime ! Dr Jekyll, I presume ? wink.gif
post #159 of 1303
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

 

Nah, I've been comparing it mainly with iems and I can always tell the difference in detail and separation. In i9000's defense the gr07 mk2 did have better synergy with it than with c3.

And yeah, while I'm using a jellybean ROM now the stock 2.3.6 is still the best IMO

 

Fair enough.

 

The last time I tested these two I tested the phonak 232, momentum and MDR1R.  Sounded suprisingly similar out of the two players. 

 

Glad though that you think the stock rom is the best. I always thought it's just me!!

post #160 of 1303
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post
 

 

Do you hear any ambient noise on the train with your iem's?

 

If you mean from the player, no. If you mean from the train, yes, LOL.


Edited by k3oxkjo - 9/26/13 at 7:06pm
post #161 of 1303

Guys, can we get back on topic? This thread is a pity party, not a comparison/impressions thread. More tears, less high fives.

post #162 of 1303
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Originally Posted by doublea71 View Post
 

Guys, can we get back on topic? This thread is a pity party, not a comparison/impressions thread. More tears, less high fives.

 

 

LOL. Yes, let's not get all caught up in the fact that we now can carry hundreds of albums worth of files of mastering quality with outstanding audio playback quality in our back pocket, let's get back to complaining. See: Louis CK rant about cell phones:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Gcxb-6DNE

 

Don't do this if you don't like "bad words"...

 

Kevin

post #163 of 1303
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Originally Posted by k3oxkjo View Post


LOL. Yes, let's not get all caught up in the fact that we now can carry hundreds of albums worth of files of mastering quality with outstanding audio playback quality in our back pocket, let's get back to complaining. See: Louis CK rant about cell phones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Gcxb-6DNE

Don't do this if you don't like "bad words"...

Kevin

What good is it to carry hundreds of CDs in your back pocket when the OS is so clunky half the time you wind up fighting with the hardware just to get it to work? What good is it to have all that music when the OS layout is so primitive and ill thought out you're spending countless extra time navigating through the OS just to get to the piece of music you want? What good is having a DAP when half your music isn't even populated onto the DAP due to SDCard scanning bugs? What good is it having a DAP meant to save time when you're spending countless days re encoding files due to limited file support on the DAP? What good is it having a good sounding DAP when every time you touch a button to navigate through the OS you get popping sounds due to the OS being ill coded? What good is it to have high res support when your files play at twice the intended speed causing the singer to sound like one of the chipmunks? I and others on this thread await your answers.

Arly
Edited by DigitalFreak - 9/27/13 at 7:48am
post #164 of 1303
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post


What good is it to carry hundreds of CDs in your back pocket when the OS is so clunky half the time you wind up fighting with the hardware just to get it to work? What good is it to have all that music when the OS layout is so primitive and ill thought out you're spending countless extra time navigating through the OS just to get to the piece of music you want? What good is having a DAP when half your music isn't even populated onto the DAP due to SDCard scanning bugs? What good is it having a DAP meant to save time when you're spending countless days re encoding files due to limited file support on the DAP? What good is it having a good sounding DAP when every time you touch a button to navigate through the OS you get popping sounds due to the OS being ill coded? What good is it to have high res support when your files play at twice the intended speed causing the singer to sound like one of the chipmunks? I and others on this thread await your answers.

Arly

This.

post #165 of 1303

I've got to say that personally I don't mind a simple UI as long as it is stable and without major bugs. That's just me - I keep my music very organised and I grew up with records and tapes, so I don't mind even if there's just browsing by folder and nothing more. I have to admit that I don't really care about features like gapless playback and even though I wouldn't mind having the occasional playlist that's not something I would consider a deal breaker in any way.

I have zero issues with my colorfly C3 although I do acknowledge that a lot of people would find it having too simple and primitive UI. I personally just find a lot of the people, especially the younger ones are spoiled by ipods and such and it will be a lot harder for them to accept such OS or UI limitations. 

And with that said, while I wouldn't mind not having fancy features in my C3, it's a $100 DAP. I can probably lower my expectations for features from a boutique DAP to around $300 but I completely expect and would not tolerate issues with anything costing more and lacking so much in features. And that's just for the extra features. I wouldn't tolerate bugs like freezing, playback issues, volume fluctuations and such no matter what the DAP's price is. And a $500-1000 DAP should be top notch in almost every way - period! No - "oh, it's not that bad", "that works fine for me, so it's all fine" (after several people previously saying it does not for them) etc. 


Edited by kova4a - 9/27/13 at 8:14am
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