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post #1291 of 1452
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

:)

 

You went from talking about Apple not being interested in the audiophile market to Apple not being interested in summit-fi (a bit of a change of tack).  I agree with the summit-fi assumption. But just remember that there are a lot of serious music lovers out there who may well class themselves as audiophiles that aren't interested in summit-fi either.

 

Personally I'll never look at an AK240 or HM8/9xx series simply because of the price.  And you know how much I love my music :D.  I'd love to only carry one device.  Like I said - increase the storage and make high-res playback possible, and I'd think that they'll get considerably more sales.

 

I mean - go back a few years - the Classic 5.5 was considered an audiophile device/choice ........

well when I think "audio phile market" I assume it's Summit fit, as most of the Botique shops have... Summit Fi Gear as the TOTL, iBasso, Hifiman, Fiio [is getting one soon] A&K, the biggest botique guys have Summit DAPS,

 

And yea it kind was, I think 5 Years back the hm801 was still up there though :D  

post #1292 of 1452
Thread Starter 

Since everyone is talking Apple.....

 

post #1293 of 1452
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

:)

 

You went from talking about Apple not being interested in the audiophile market to Apple not being interested in summit-fi (a bit of a change of tack).  I agree with the summit-fi assumption. But just remember that there are a lot of serious music lovers out there who may well class themselves as audiophiles that aren't interested in summit-fi either.

 

Personally I'll never look at an AK240 or HM8/9xx series simply because of the price.  And you know how much I love my music :D.  I'd love to only carry one device.  Like I said - increase the storage and make high-res playback possible, and I'd think that they'll get considerably more sales.

 

I mean - go back a few years - the Classic 5.5 was considered an audiophile device/choice ........

 

You never know Brooko. This place might make you go down that path and your wallet will really be brooko ;)...

post #1294 of 1452

Am I the only one around here who hates Apple's ecosystem, their terms and their UI? Especially their UI is just driving me crazy, I can't understand how people find it useful.

 

Working fast, doesn't get frozen, no lag, nice animations. All true, I agree.

 

However, to browse your files, it is just unbelievably disgusting to me. Don't sort the files in your way, let me handle my s**t and you just play it. But no, it is Apple, of course it will tell you to obey their rules.

post #1295 of 1452

You're not alone. I feel the exact same way and I own an apple product. Not planning on buying another one though.

post #1296 of 1452
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post
 

You're not alone. I feel the exact same way and I own an apple product. Not planning on buying another one though.


Rockbox'ing them helps a lot though :beerchug: Good to see that I am not alone, once again Lee manages to save the day :tongue_smile:

post #1297 of 1452
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post
 

You never know Brooko. This place might make you go down that path and your wallet will really be brooko ;)...

Let's just say it'll be pretty unlikely mate ;).   I'm pretty covered with what I have - don't think my imperfect ears would appreciate any difference anyway.

post #1298 of 1452
I just got an ipad mini and i installed many apps just to transfer a pdf file so that i can read magazine...i thought this is what people use ipad for...samsung/sony tablets r a lot easier to use.. LoL
post #1299 of 1452
Well, maybe because the only other kind of mobile devices I've used were a zune, kindle fire hdx, and some old samsung phone, but those had god awful ui. I've enjoyed ios, and would always prefer it to that of the os of these current daps, I guess it's kind an unfair comparison, the ui of the classic is kind of weak, and the nano is touch screen now.

So oh well. Anyway though, I much prefer itunes than dealing with a folder file, it's far easier to work with itunes and custom syncing.
post #1300 of 1452
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

Am I the only one around here who hates Apple's ecosystem, their terms and their UI? Especially their UI is just driving me crazy, I can't understand how people find it useful.

 

Working fast, doesn't get frozen, no lag, nice animations. All true, I agree.

 

However, to browse your files, it is just unbelievably disgusting to me. Don't sort the files in your way, let me handle my s**t and you just play it. But no, it is Apple, of course it will tell you to obey their rules.

that point is why ppl either LOVE or hate Apple, some of us want to handle our own buisness, some of us want something to do that for us

 

I don't Hate apple... but I'll never own another apple Product outside the iPod nano [Gen 3] that I got for free once... they make a great product but... well it's not for me :3

 

But yea, you either love Apple for it's simplicity, or hate it for it's micro managed UI and "terms" 

post #1301 of 1452

As this long thread has come to an Apple pause I want to ask you a related question: I am using an Ipod classic 5th with a Fostex hp-p1, with NAD Viso headphones. Quite happy about the sound although portability is not at its best. I seem to understand that a non amped Ipod fares pretty badly compared to new DAP such as the FIIO X5 or higher. Having not had the chance to hear them, I was wondering whether the same would applied to an amped Ipod as in my case paired with a Fostex.

Putting things differently: can I expect a significant improve in SQ by replacing the Ipod classic + Fostex with a self standing DAP such as the FIIO X5 or Ibasso xd90?

post #1302 of 1452

Even if you "only" use the line out of your Ipod to an amp, you will have a decent soundquality that is nearly on par with the more expensive DAPs out there. If nearly is good enough for you is a decision that you need to make yourself....

post #1303 of 1452

This I would not doubt. But my question was slightly different: what would be, supposedly, the advance in QS by shifting from a Ipod classic + Fostex hp-p1 to a non amped DAP in the range of the Fiio x5?

Because I can see the advantages in terms of transportability, but without testing I have no clue in terms of QS.

Now, by "good enough" I mean a difference that a  human with a quite long experience with hi-fi gear can perceive  without having to set up a complex experimental setting like the ones are usually required when you want to compare DACs, for example.

post #1304 of 1452

It would really depend on your needs, headphone choices and music collection size. Personally I'm stuck in the apple ecosphere due to having a large music collection. I say stuck, but I rather have come to love the sound of my ipod to JDS C5, and have used the same main ipod 5th gen for almost 9 years. I like clean transparent sound, so the C5 amp serves my need nicely. But The X5 while powerful enough to drive most of my IEMs, has too small of a cap of songs that it can play. If you are in the camp like myself that wants to have tens of thousands of songs on tap, than a X5 won't fit your bill of needs. I'm upgrading my ipod so  I can put hundreds of thousands of songs on it within the month. My ipod-C5 combo is very portable, but being female it won't fit in my pockets and while smaller than your Fostex stack is still bulky for even a hoodie pocket. If you have a modest collection of under 8000 songs, or even don't mind updating your selections often you may find the X5 or other offerings suit your needs. If you have easy to drive headphones, any of the top DAPs on the market should suit you SQ wise and power wise. I rather enjoy the built in DAC of my 5th gen ipod, and mixed with the C5 power, I like my setup for now. Only you can decide what you will like, and what aspects of a DAP you desire and need. Buy a X5 off amazon and return it if you don't like it. If the Fostex is too bulky try one of the smaller amps and run it from line out on th ipod. Maybe try a 5th gen ipod to see if you prefer the Wolfson over the Cirrus DAC. You are the master of your domain here.

And since this is subjective, I much prefer the sound of my ipod 5th gen + LOD + C5 over the X5, but you may prefer the X5 signature unamped more than I. And that is alright, this is all about personal enjoyment, not what other people think of your gear. Good luck <3       

post #1305 of 1452

When I connect my iPod Touch to my Denon receiver using the Pure i-20 with a coaxial connection, the sound is significantly better than when I connect the iPod to the receiver using the usb connection on the Denon receiver. I assume with the former, the Denon's DAC is being used, while in the latter, the iPod is not providing a purely digital signal, or something else is happening with the usb connection.

 

In any event, how would using an iBasso DX50 and DX90 compare to the iPod when connecting the iBasso to the Denon using the line output? Would the sound quality be better than when I use the iPod and the usb connection?

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