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post #1051 of 1453
A quick Google News search does the trick sometimes. wink.gif

http://liliputing.com/2014/03/cowon-plenue-p1-high-end-android-media-player-way.html
post #1052 of 1453

Aren't most of the people that would be all about hi-res audio support, the same people that would not want to use the BBE sound enhancements that Cowon is best known for?

 

Just sayin'....lol.

post #1053 of 1453
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

A quick Google News search does the trick sometimes. wink.gif

http://liliputing.com/2014/03/cowon-plenue-p1-high-end-android-media-player-way.html


Great thanks!

I do wonder what their pricing will be.

post #1054 of 1453
Thread Starter 

Well, maybe Cowan can pull it off where iBasso failed. If the new Cowan player can deliver comparable Studio V/AK sound or better at a slightly cheaper price with a good user experience things could finally become interesting in the DAP market.

post #1055 of 1453
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Originally Posted by keepitsimple View Post
 

The i phone 4s has a very good sound and Rudi backs that up(so it must be good lol)Ive previously checked the touch(may be old model)1st 2nd and 4th gen nanos and the sound straight out aint that good.I love the 1st gen shuffle for portable use.I would try the i phone 4.Im not sure what the 5 model is like. 

 

Thanks, keepitsimple, but it seems as though the particular problem you mentioned is software-related, specifically an iOS 7 issue. If so, then all compatible devices from the iPhone 4 on would be affected, regardless of hardware considerations. Of course, one could always ignore the default playback software and install a different app, as you did.

 

This afternoon I tried the newest iPod Touch at an Apple retailer, and I didn't like it. The music sounded entirely compressed--a literal possibility, since they were demo tracks! Still, I doubt I'd buy a Touch even if the audio was superb, since the device's battery is totally non-replaceable. When the battery fails, Apple techs just throw out the entire unit. (What--more waste? Why worry!?) The iPod Classic is apparently a different matter, but I'm not thrilled about the hard disk. . . .

 

I hope it's possible to replace the battery in the Calyx M, even if only by a technician. What about the AK120--is its battery replaceable?


Edited by bcarr112281 - 3/10/14 at 11:11pm
post #1056 of 1453
It makes me laugh when people worry about removable batteries, because of how fickle audiophiles are about their equipment. By the time the battery is at the end of its life, people will be using the newest DAP. How many people are still rockin' their Creative Zens?
Edited by meat01 - 3/11/14 at 6:21am
post #1057 of 1453
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It makes me laugh when people worry about removable batteries, because of how fickle audiophiles are about their equipment. By the time the battery is at the end of its life, people will be using the newest DAP. How many people are still rockin' their Creative Zens?
Same here...never used a DAP to the end of its battery life. Ever. Even my IPC.

H20 we have a thread for the new Cowon:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/709051/cowon-plenue-p1
post #1058 of 1453

to be fair, I did kill two ipods before.... those things werent very durable at the beginning...

post #1059 of 1453
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Originally Posted by meat01 View Post

It makes me laugh when people worry about removable batteries, because of how fickle audiophiles are about their equipment. By the time the battery is at the end of its life, people will be using the newest DAP. How many people are still rockin' their Creative Zens?

 

 

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Same here...never used a DAP to the end of its battery life. Ever. Even my IPC.

H20 we have a thread for the new Cowon:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/709051/cowon-plenue-p1

 

Agreed....batteries these days last for years.

post #1060 of 1453

I'm pretty new to all this, but I am trying to learn as much as I can. Right now I'm using an iPod classic + FiiO E12 + Beyerdynamic DT770's (250ohm).

 

Now I'm looking to upgrade my player and I am having a very hard time selecting a DAP!

 

I am leaning mostly to the FiiO X5... The reviews look good, most of the downsides I can deal with, and the price is good! But now I hear they are going to release an X7 anyway, which will probably be better.

 

So now I'm starting to think.. maybe I should spend a little more money on something I will have for longer. Or does it not really work out this way?

 

I started looking at things like the HM-901, but I just don't know if I'm there yet. I am willing to spend some money (nothing over $1k at the absolute most, though) for something good, but I'm still trying to get past the UI of a lot of these players.

 

I wish I could just get an AK240 and be done with it, haha.

 

So, I don't really know why I made this post.. I guess to just vent/ramble.. but so far I guess I am leaning to the X5, unless anyone has a better suggestion?

post #1061 of 1453
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Originally Posted by subver View Post
 

I'm pretty new to all this, but I am trying to learn as much as I can. Right now I'm using an iPod classic + FiiO E12 + Beyerdynamic DT770's (250ohm).

 

Now I'm looking to upgrade my player and I am having a very hard time selecting a DAP!

 

I am leaning mostly to the FiiO X5... The reviews look good, most of the downsides I can deal with, and the price is good! But now I hear they are going to release an X7 anyway, which will probably be better.

 

So now I'm starting to think.. maybe I should spend a little more money on something I will have for longer. Or does it not really work out this way?

 

I started looking at things like the HM-901, but I just don't know if I'm there yet. I am willing to spend some money (nothing over $1k at the absolute most, though) for something good, but I'm still trying to get past the UI of a lot of these players.

 

I wish I could just get an AK240 and be done with it, haha.

 

So, I don't really know why I made this post.. I guess to just vent/ramble.. but so far I guess I am leaning to the X5, unless anyone has a better suggestion?

 

Are you unhappy with the Classic and E12 combo? Maybe a headphone change could also provide an upgrade in sound. Or you could Rockbox the Classic......lots of options to consider.

post #1062 of 1453
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Originally Posted by subver View Post

I'm pretty new to all this, but I am trying to learn as much as I can. Right now I'm using an iPod classic + FiiO E12 + Beyerdynamic DT770's (250ohm).

Now I'm looking to upgrade my player and I am having a very hard time selecting a DAP!

I am leaning mostly to the FiiO X5... The reviews look good, most of the downsides I can deal with, and the price is good! But now I hear they are going to release an X7 anyway, which will probably be better.

So now I'm starting to think.. maybe I should spend a little more money on something I will have for longer. Or does it not really work out this way?

I started looking at things like the HM-901, but I just don't know if I'm there yet. I am willing to spend some money (nothing over $1k at the absolute most, though) for something good, but I'm still trying to get past the UI of a lot of these players.

I wish I could just get an AK240 and be done with it, haha.

So, I don't really know why I made this post.. I guess to just vent/ramble.. but so far I guess I am leaning to the X5, unless anyone has a better suggestion?
It depends on what you value most in a DAP and was souns sig you like. X5, 901, ZX1 and the upcoming Calyx amd DX90 are all potential choices. I find the AK DAPs quite slick but clearly not bang for the buck.

One piece of advice though, do not keep, waiting for the next best thing or your will never get anything. And X5 is quite a safe bet to me.
Edited by Mimouille - 3/11/14 at 7:26am
post #1063 of 1453
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post
 

 

Are you unhappy with the Classic and E12 combo? Maybe a headphone change could also provide an upgrade in sound. Or you could Rockbox the Classic......lots of options to consider.

Not necessarily unhappy, but I just want to try better. Also it is a 7th gen classic, I thought those couldn't be rockboxed?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


It depends on what you value most in a DAP and was souns sig you like. X5, 901, ZX1 and the upcoming Calyx amd DX90 are all potential choices. I find the AK DAPs quite slick but clearly not bang for the buck.

One piece of advice though, do not keep, waiting for the next best thing or your will never get anything. And X5 is quite a safe bet to me.

I'm honestly not sure what I like exactly.. I know what I think sounds good but am still having a hard time explaining why. I don't really have a store I can just go and try these things at.

 

I was checking out those other players as well... the DX90 is from iBasso right? Are they coming out with a new DAP soon? I feel like all these players have a better one replacing it soon as well.. I just can't keep them all straight!

 

I really just wish I could compare all these players to one another with the same source files and same headphones... I feel like I could research these players until the end of time and still not make my mind up.. oi vey!

post #1064 of 1453
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Originally Posted by meat01 View Post

It makes me laugh when people worry about removable batteries, because of how fickle audiophiles are about their equipment. By the time the battery is at the end of its life, people will be using the newest DAP. How many people are still rockin' their Creative Zens?

 

I have to disagree.

I still use my iRiver H-10 (replaceable battery) , H-140 (had to disassembly it, to change the battery) and S10 (that will be hard, when the battery dies).

post #1065 of 1453
I have the Ipod Classic running with my E12 or with my Meier Audio Stepdance. It sounds very good with the E12 and even better with the Stepdance. So far as long as upgrading the headphones does still make a big difference, I will wait for my IPod to die, before I upgrade. I simply love the ui and physical handling of my Classic. And the absence of a touch screen.
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