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post #16 of 33
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Originally Posted by UltMusicSnob View Post

These are just my own personal priorities for "What To Spend $535 On".

1) More Music Recordings
2) If your speakers cost less than $2000, put this in your "Fund for $2000 Speakers"
3) More Music Recordings
4) Room treatments
5) More Music Recordings
6) Tickets to 4 live concerts
7) Replacement styluses for the turntable, hyperelliptical
8) More Music Recordings

etc.

Didn't have room for cables. Maybe next year...wink.gif

Most sense i have read on heafi in a while. wink.gif

If you change position between nr. 5 and 8 I think you are spot on, but apart from that I totally agree.
post #17 of 33

I think switching 2 and 5 would be more appropriate.

 

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post #18 of 33

Sexy looks aside, you know exactly the response you're going to get when you post something in the sound science forum, and that is anti-exotic-cable skepticism ;)

post #19 of 33

If it's anti anything then it's anti-baseless claims ... aka skepticism. In that light, it doesn't really matter if it's cables, amazing pebbles, electrical devices, etc. exotic or not, cheap or expensive.

 

It's just that expensive stuff does more "damage" and is more ridiculous, draws more attention.

post #20 of 33
Thread Starter 

I just suprised at ALL THE ACTIVITY :O I post a headphone review... pff three weeks one page long, ask a kinda obvious question and MAN in under a day were going on three pages of anti-bassless claims xD

 

So here is the better quesition. I want a sexy cable like that... any idea's on how to make it? Or who to buy it from, and SOUND AUDIO GUYS while I am hear, so different kinds of wire in interconnectors have an affect on the sound [even a PROVEN but miniscal impact would be cool]

 

Also let's talk about power as well, I recently got a Furman power conditioner for well my Pc and my amps and it actually... imrproved everything :O, the sound stage in the oDac as a a little cleaner, and OMG my pc ran stable for the first time in 8 months [I moved into an OLD house so not a big shock on the pc] 

post #21 of 33

Power conditioners "fix" your power by cleaning it up. This is why some people get dramatic differences and some people hear no difference at all. Neither is wrong. If your power is already clean then there's nothing to fix, so it makes no difference. If you have "dirty" power from power lines several decades old, and lots of big appliances turning on and off in the same circuit, then a power conditioner would make a big difference.

post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post
 

Power conditioners "fix" your power by cleaning it up. This is why some people get dramatic differences and some people hear no difference at all. Neither is wrong. If your power is already clean then there's nothing to fix, so it makes no difference. If you have "dirty" power from power lines several decades old, and lots of big appliances turning on and off in the same circuit, then a power conditioner would make a big difference.

 

and it most certianly did, my power so horribly, my external HDD used to skip a beat evey time I switched the speed on my fan. Not to mention my PC used to  shut down for no reason [I found that out to be an issue with Brown Outs] point being, I love mah Condition! And it has JUST enough sockets xD I can only buyone more amp and then I'll need another conditoner! 

post #23 of 33

For the computer you can get a UPS from APC. Some of the models have AVR.

post #24 of 33
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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post
 

For the computer you can get a UPS from APC. Some of the models have AVR.

 

I know I Do need to get a UPS what though is AVR on a ups? 

post #25 of 33

AVR = automatic voltage regulator, I would think. On most UPS that aren't really expensive, the implementation should be fairly cheap and not do that much—switch to a different voltage range if dipping below a certain threshold or going above another, or something like that.

 

If it's for a decent modern computer (power supply), I wouldn't worry too much about it. The APFC circuit that controls how and when power is drawn from the mains, input side filtering, and bulk capacitor(s) on the primary side should be able to handle most transient issues. I mean, even after that, there's PWM chopping up the input, going across a transformer, more rectification and filtering in the power supply, and additional regulators to bring down to something like CPU voltage, so mains power should be pretty far removed from what's happening inside the computer (you hope).

 

For most audio gear, you'd hope that the designs aren't so sensitive to power rail fluctuations and have the necessary filtering up front, but I guess if you really want, you can always baby them with external conditioners and so on. I mean, if operating conditions are really bad, as you've noted, they can help.

post #26 of 33
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

I know I Do need to get a UPS what though is AVR on a ups? 

 

Sorry, it's Automatic Voltage Regulation. Basically if the voltage drops below a certain (adjustable) threshold (i.e., a brownout), it will automatically "top up" the voltage, and if the voltage exceeds a certain threshold (i.e. a surge) it will reduce it. I have this one: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=br1000g

post #27 of 33
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Originally Posted by mikeaj View Post
 

If it's for a decent modern computer (power supply), I wouldn't worry too much about it. The APFC circuit that controls how and when power is drawn from the mains, input side filtering, and bulk capacitor(s) on the primary side should be able to handle most transient issues. I mean, even after that, there's PWM chopping up the input, going across a transformer, more rectification and filtering in the power supply, and additional regulators to bring down to something like CPU voltage, so mains power should be pretty far removed from what's happening inside the computer (you hope).

Yes small surges shouldn't be a big deal, but he was saying that his computer would randomly shut down due to brown outs.

post #28 of 33
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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post
 

Yes small surges shouldn't be a big deal, but he was saying that his computer would randomly shut down due to brown outs.

 

I swear to GAWD if I look at ANOTHER PRODUCT PAGE THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PRICE... I'm going to FREAKING FLIP.

 
While it is a smart move on thier part... AT LEAST put the DAMN price at the bottom q.q
 
Still I won't be buying one of those. No room for it 
post #29 of 33

I think it was around $150

post #30 of 33

Think about it. Those 600 bucks power cables are used to carry AC, which is from that AC plug....

 

from AC plug to internal wiring inside of your house....

 

from internal wiring inside of your house to outside wiring.....

 

from outside wiring to that transformer located on that power tower....

 

from that transformer on that power tower to (simplified) your humble power company...

 

 

I mean, that power cable is just short part of the long road.

 

 

 

 

Often, if you live in old house, it's best to rewire old internal wiring to something better than lead (i.e copper) if possible, and exchange that lead plug to copper ones, and install AC noise filter and loop breaker if needed. But those measures are for reducing electronic fire, not sound improvement.

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