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post #91 of 1785
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

 

 

Sorry man but I don't think you can get deeper sub bass with these headphones.

 

I've seen graphs for the japanese version of 7520 (z1000) and bass starts to fall off cliff at 70hz.

 

 

Knowing that 7520 is a serious monitor headphone... i think it belongs in the same class as other serious closed-headphone monitors such as akg k271 and shure srh441.

clean  sub bass but sure won't go that deep.

 

i know this is full size only headphone sub-forum... but if you want clean/tight/deep sub-bass and clean mids to satisfy your genres (noted above) but want to stay in Sony professional brand... get the IEM version in the Sony 75XX series family.

holy moly thats a quick roll off... others were saying the bass is deep. That is worse than the hd650 bass roll off... wow.... If its true that they are the same headphone then yeah that is a no go.

post #92 of 1785
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

 

 

Sorry man but I don't think you can get deeper sub bass with these headphones.

 

I've seen graphs for the japanese version of 7520 (z1000) and bass starts to fall off cliff at 70hz.

 

 

Knowing that 7520 is a serious monitor headphone... i think it belongs in the same class as other serious closed-headphone monitors such as akg k271 and shure srh441.

clean  sub bass but sure won't go that deep.

 

i know this is full size only headphone sub-forum... but if you want clean/tight/deep sub-bass and clean mids to satisfy your genres (noted above) but want to stay in Sony professional brand... get the IEM version in the Sony 75XX series family.

 

Once again, it seems some people just don't read... the Z1000 is not a "Japanese" version of the 7520!!!

THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT HEADPHONES!

This has been addressed a few times and even the headphone designer said in an interview that they are different!!!

 

So... there... :p

post #93 of 1785
Yes guys, trust me. I've auditioned the z1000 and 7520 and they both sound quite different. So that graph posted of the z1000 does not come close to the 7520. The difference in bass response between these two is night and day. The z1000 has very rolled off bass, the 7520 does not, not at all.
post #94 of 1785

sorry for making you guys reiterate things previously state, my bad. There isn't much available information on these gems... based on Gelocks description of the yammies and others description of these... its between MAD Dogs 3.2, the sonies or yammies.

I have time so I am in no rush but I am leaning toward the yammies just because of its bass. Both seem to go over the ear and look really comfortable.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 11/2/13 at 12:56pm
post #95 of 1785

Just for the sake of curiosity I ordered the new Shure SRH1540 and will compare them to the 7520. I was especially curious because of the pads the Shure uses. They're thick and the material is made of alcantara, which could be a very comfortable combination. Will post my impressions when I get them next week.

 

Still lovin' the 7520 though :)

post #96 of 1785
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Originally Posted by starfly View Post
 

Just for the sake of curiosity I ordered the new Shure SRH1540 and will compare them to the 7520. I was especially curious because of the pads the Shure uses. They're thick and the material is made of alcantara, which could be a very comfortable combination. Will post my impressions when I get them next week.

 

Still lovin' the 7520 though :)


Nice! I'm interested in your findings. The 1540 looks like a good candidate.

post #97 of 1785

I'm liking the 1540s quite a lot actually. I'm thinking your Sony's might be more forward/aggressive overall... but that's just an assumption. ;-)

A bit "boomier" than I expected but doesn't hide anything... Hopefully I'll have time soon to do a T5p/1540/Alpha Dogs showdown...

 

Keep us posted. ;-)

 

 

P.S. And yes, they are VERY light and comfortable,...

post #98 of 1785

I think that the Sony 7520 will still be in the top few since I just received them. I am trying the Sony on a few of my tube amps I was a bit surprised that the Sony  is one of the smoothness sounding headphones I ever heard and I have listened to many headphones. The biggest surprise was that with my new Emotiva mini A-100 amp intended for future planner headphones the Sony shines with the large choral works, the passions and masses comes thru with great clarity and huge soundstage with all the voices singing is just absolutely fantastic.  The comfort of the Sony is just fine even though the ear pads padding is a bit on the thin side.  

The Shure 940 I have sounded just terrible on the mini and it always was a bit edgier in the treble. It just that the Emotiva mini just made the Shure sound much worst.  I never like the headband on the Sure since the plastic just creaks all the time.The Shure was a bit better using tubes. I have no desire to try the newer Shures.  I am going to retire the Shure and the Sony just moved almost to the top of all headphones I have listen to. The 7520 has no trouble handling the power of the Emotiva mini A-100 speaker amp and the silky detailed smooth sound with tremendous space within the voices. The Mahler Symphony 8 recorded with 96K 24 bit sound is awesome with the Sony 7520. A Wow moment!

post #99 of 1785
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Originally Posted by john57 View Post
 

I think that the Sony 7520 will still be in the top few since I just received them. I am trying the Sony on a few of my tube amps I was a bit surprised that the Sony  is one of the smoothness sounding headphones I ever heard and I have listened to many headphones. The biggest surprise was that with my new Emotiva mini A-100 amp intended for future planner headphones the Sony shines with the large choral works, the passions and masses comes thru with great clarity and huge soundstage with all the voices singing is just absolutely fantastic.  The comfort of the Sony is just fine even though the ear pads padding is a bit on the thin side.  

The Shure 940 I have sounded just terrible on the mini and it always was a bit edgier in the treble. It just that the Emotiva mini just made the Shure sound much worst.  I never like the headband on the Sure since the plastic just creaks all the time.The Shure was a bit better using tubes. I have no desire to try the newer Shures.  I am going to retire the Shure and the Sony just moved almost to the top of all headphones I have listen to. The 7520 has no trouble handling the power of the Emotiva mini A-100 speaker amp and the silky detailed smooth sound with tremendous space within the voices. The Mahler Symphony 8 recorded with 96K 24 bit sound is awesome with the Sony 7520. A Wow moment!

Yup, they're really good. I was listening to some classical music myself yesterday and there was just so much detail. And it's all presented so nicely. I did notice that it doesn't have the same type of layering and depth or width in soundstage that say the B&W P7 managed to produce (the P7 is very very good at this), which can work really well with classical music. But it does deliver more detail throughout the whole range.

 

As for the pads, I too wished they would have been a bit thicker, so that the pads would have been deeper to leave more space for your ears depth wise. My left ear (that darn left ear of mine again) does get a little bit squished after a while. But I'm also realizing that the perfect headphone, for me at least, probably doesn't exist, so in the end it's about finding the right balance between comfort and sound quality. But maybe I'll go ahead and design my own headphone, ha! (no, not really, although I am considering re-educating myself to get an engineering degree, vs. the business degree I have right now).


Edited by starfly - 11/8/13 at 2:18am
post #100 of 1785

I do have a engineering degree and have built a few amps, stereos and test equipment. As far as ears is concerned I had a operation to pin one ear back long time ago. I also in agreement with a poster that stated do not even think about having a Stax headphone setup unless you can afford them.  Even if you have the 'perfect" headphones and equipment there still a issue having that perfect recording and performance as well. I have more than enough headphones that I need to cut down a bit. Now to the next new recording to hear! :happy_face1:

post #101 of 1785

Holy sh** man!! I was just listening to 'Comfortably Numb' by Pink Floyd (the version on the Pulse Live DVD) and my skin was literally crawling and I got goosebumps listening to it with the 7520. Of course, it's an incredible song and that guitar solo is in my top 5 favourite guitar solo's ever, but geez, simply incredible. And the level of detail in there, amazing :)

post #102 of 1785
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Originally Posted by john57 View Post
 

I think that the Sony 7520 will still be in the top few since I just received them. I am trying the Sony on a few of my tube amps I was a bit surprised that the Sony  is one of the smoothness sounding headphones I ever heard and I have listened to many headphones. The biggest surprise was that with my new Emotiva mini A-100 amp intended for future planner headphones the Sony shines with the large choral works, the passions and masses comes thru with great clarity and huge soundstage with all the voices singing is just absolutely fantastic.  The comfort of the Sony is just fine even though the ear pads padding is a bit on the thin side.  

The Shure 940 I have sounded just terrible on the mini and it always was a bit edgier in the treble. It just that the Emotiva mini just made the Shure sound much worst.  I never like the headband on the Sure since the plastic just creaks all the time.The Shure was a bit better using tubes. I have no desire to try the newer Shures.  I am going to retire the Shure and the Sony just moved almost to the top of all headphones I have listen to. The 7520 has no trouble handling the power of the Emotiva mini A-100 speaker amp and the silky detailed smooth sound with tremendous space within the voices. The Mahler Symphony 8 recorded with 96K 24 bit sound is awesome with the Sony 7520. A Wow moment!

wouldn't the emotiva be a bit overkill for these. They don't need a lot of power at all do they? Do you notice a hiss when you plug them in without music playing?

post #103 of 1785
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Originally Posted by starfly View Post
 

Yup, they're really good. I was listening to some classical music myself yesterday and there was just so much detail. And it's all presented so nicely. I did notice that it doesn't have the same type of layering and depth or width in soundstage that say the B&W P7 managed to produce (the P7 is very very good at this), which can work really well with classical music. But it does deliver more detail throughout the whole range.

 

As for the pads, I too wished they would have been a bit thicker, so that the pads would have been deeper to leave more space for your ears depth wise. My left ear (that darn left ear of mine again) does get a little bit squished after a while. But I'm also realizing that the perfect headphone, for me at least, probably doesn't exist, so in the end it's about finding the right balance between comfort and sound quality. But maybe I'll go ahead and design my own headphone, ha! (no, not really, although I am considering re-educating myself to get an engineering degree, vs. the business degree I have right now).

 

I also suffer from my left ear generally hitting headphone grills.  Have you tried the simple solution of increasing the depth of the earpads by sticking some cloth or rope or foam etc. under the pads thus forcing them out and giving you greater depth in the ear cup?  I just did that yesterday for my Fostex T50RP and not only has the comfort increased dramatically but also the sound is much improved as well. So much so that despite having the budget for new improved headphones such as these Sony's or the B&W P7 or the Shure 1540s, I think today I am first going to try to open them up and put a bit of sound dampening material in the back of the cups to tame some resonance.  Still looking forward to your reports on the Shure 1540s in comparison to the others you have or had recently.

post #104 of 1785
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Originally Posted by runswithaliens View Post
 

 

I also suffer from my left ear generally hitting headphone grills.  Have you tried the simple solution of increasing the depth of the earpads by sticking some cloth or rope or foam etc. under the pads thus forcing them out and giving you greater depth in the ear cup?  I just did that yesterday for my Fostex T50RP and not only has the comfort increased dramatically but also the sound is much improved as well. So much so that despite having the budget for new improved headphones such as these Sony's or the B&W P7 or the Shure 1540s, I think today I am first going to try to open them up and put a bit of sound dampening material in the back of the cups to tame some resonance.  Still looking forward to your reports on the Shure 1540s in comparison to the others you have or had recently.

I'll look into that, thanks for the idea :)

post #105 of 1785
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

wouldn't the emotiva be a bit overkill for these. They don't need a lot of power at all do they? Do you notice a hiss when you plug them in without music playing?

 

Actually, highly sensitive, low impedance headphones like the 7520 are the hardest to drive well.
People often confuse getting a lot of volume out of an amplifier, with being easy to drive.

High impedance headphones mostly just need a lot of voltage to drive them loud, though ideally you would still be using them with a low impedance headphone output.
Low impedance headphones need a lot of current and a very low impedance amplifier - less than 1/8th the headphones themselves. And they need a very quiet source to avoid any background hiss.

Some reading on the subject: http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/discuss/feedback/newsletter/2011/12/2/0-ohm-headphone-amplifier-sonic-advantages-low-impedance-headphone-amp


As far as sealed headphones go, the MDR-7520 are my favorite by quite a bit. I think it's a shame they are so often overlooked, because they are such a good headphone.
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