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post #586 of 2340

Yeah guys. Comparing frequencey response graphs from two different sources is a big no no. Nothing useful in doing that. The only thing we can probably say is that the 7520 would probably have a bigger bass response. As for HeadRoom. I doubt they'll ever do a graph of the 7520. It's been out 2 years now? They won't get permission from Sony to sell it so.... unlikely. If you want to really see measurements you can send it out to Tyll and see if he's willing to take some measurements.


Edited by M-13 - 1/6/14 at 12:57pm
post #587 of 2340
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post They won't get permission from Sony to sell it so.... unlikely.

 

Why not? They've sold and measured Sonys in the past................. Just curious.

post #588 of 2340
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Why not? They've sold and measured Sonys in the past................. Just curious.


Hmm... okay then. Maybe they will sell and measure them. I have no idea. Haha. Just talking out of my ass as usual.

post #589 of 2340
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Hmm... okay then. Maybe they will sell and measure them. I have no idea. Haha. Just talking out of my ass as usual.

Haha, I just imagined Jim Carrey talking out of his ass in Ace Venture Pet Detective (that scene where he bends over at the police station and starts talking out of his ass).

post #590 of 2340
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Haha, I just imagined Jim Carrey talking out of his ass in Ace Venture Pet Detective (that scene where he bends over at the police station and starts talking out of his ass).


Hahaha. Classic stuff! I wish my ass was that talented!

post #591 of 2340
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Hahaha. Classic stuff! I wish my ass was that talented!

A slightly unrelated question, but I see in your signature that you have the UE900, W4R en SE535 IEMs. Which one of those come closest to the 7520 sound signature?

 

I've been using my SE530 for 4+ years now, but I suppose at some point they'll 'break' and I'll have to replace them. And then I think I want a more neutralish sound (but with still a decent amount of bass presence, just like the 7520).

post #592 of 2340
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I've been using my SE530 for 4+ years now, but I suppose at some point they'll 'break' and I'll have to replace them. And then I think I want a more neutralish sound (but with still a decent amount of bass presence, just like the 7520).

 

The UERM is amazing. More clarity and resolution than the 7520, but slightly less bass impact. The DUNU DN-1000 properly amped is very close to the 7520. It's an absolute steal for $200 and betters the W4R I used to have.

post #593 of 2340
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The UERM is amazing. More clarity and resolution than the 7520, but slightly less bass impact. The DUNU DN-1000 properly amped is very close to the 7520. It's an absolute steal for $200 and betters the W4R I used to have.

But isn't the DN-1000 bass-heavy, while the MDR-7520 is neutral?
post #594 of 2340
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But isn't the DN-1000 bass-heavy, while the MDR-7520 is neutral?

 

Yes, very slightly bass-heavy but not at all bloated. Still very cohesive and balanced sounding.

post #595 of 2340
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Originally Posted by starfly View Post
 

A slightly unrelated question, but I see in your signature that you have the UE900, W4R en SE535 IEMs. Which one of those come closest to the 7520 sound signature?

 

I've been using my SE530 for 4+ years now, but I suppose at some point they'll 'break' and I'll have to replace them. And then I think I want a more neutralish sound (but with still a decent amount of bass presence, just like the 7520).


I love the SE530. I had them about four years too. Haha. Before I got into headphones that is. None of them really resemble the 7520 very closely, but if I had to pick I guess the W4R would be my choice. In fact it's my overall favorite and I consider it to be the most neutral of the bunch. Wouldn't Sony's 7550 resemble it the best? Just talking out of my ass again.


Edited by M-13 - 1/7/14 at 10:24am
post #596 of 2340
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Originally Posted by third_eye View Post
 

The UERM is amazing. More clarity and resolution than the 7520, but slightly less bass impact. The DUNU DN-1000 properly amped is very close to the 7520. It's an absolute steal for $200 and betters the W4R I used to have.

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But isn't the DN-1000 bass-heavy, while the MDR-7520 is neutral?

 

I have much more experience with IEMs than full-sized phones, but since I have the 7520 on loan from a generous fellow head-fier, I thought I'd share my humble 2c...

 

If these are considered neutral, I'll have to redefine my understanding of the term ;-) To my ears they have a pronounced bass-emphasis that peaks in mid-bass and gives their overall balanced sound signature a nice and fun kick.

 

Among my IEM stuff, I'd consider the UERM's bass closest to neutral. The Sony EX-1000's bass is slightly north of the UERM's, but still decidedly south of the 7520's. Even though the EX1000's sound signature is not that far from the 7520's overall, the former's low end is noticeably leaner, faster and clearer. Out of all IEMs I've heard, the 7520 remind me most of the JVC FX700 when worn with a loose seal, great clarity across the mids and highs along with a fun and punchy (mid-)bass kick. Out of Sony's IEM range, I'd probably hear them closest to the XBA-H3, though the latter are noticeably more polite in treble.

 

As I said, I don't have much experience with full-sized phones and neither with their bang/buck ratios. But the 7520 strike me as a great buy for those who want a mostly neutral phone with some added low end fun for home listening, or those who're looking for a phone that sounds well-balanced in mobile surroundings.

post #597 of 2340

Yeah that bass thing was problematic for me too. I distinctly remember being annoyed by it and being overwhelmed by it. Strangely, It went away however. Not sure why. In fact the bass keeps strinking on me. It's almost bass shy now. Haha. Not sure what's going on, but if it shrinks anymore it's going to turn into the Z1000.

post #598 of 2340
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Yeah that bass thing was problematic for me too. I distinctly remember being annoyed by it and being overwhelmed by it. Strangely, It went away however. Not sure why. In fact the bass keeps strinking on me. It's almost bass shy now. Haha. Not sure what's going on, but if it shrinks anymore it's going to turn into the Z1000.

Is the bassport getting clogged up for some reason? That could reduce the bass response.

post #599 of 2340
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post
 

If these are considered neutral, I'll have to redefine my understanding of the term ;-) To my ears they have a pronounced bass-emphasis that peaks in mid-bass and gives their overall balanced sound signature a nice and fun kick.

 

 

This again brings up the question of the pronounced bass emphasis that some people feel the 7520 has, and, more interesting, what 'neutral' is. I'm of the opinion that neutral does not mean flat. I'm sure that the 7520 has a much 'flatter' FR in the bass than the other phones here:-http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=3381&graphID[]=1513&graphID[]=2371&graphID[]=2361&scale=30 but some of us are hearing that as a bass emphasis. Sorry if this has been discussed on Headfi many times before and I'm stating the obvious, but a natural sound does not have a flat FR. No musical instrument or concert venue has a flat FR and neither do anyone's ears! So 'neutral' must mean something other than 'flat'. It seems to me that 'neutral' must to an extent depend on the listener and is therefore, in the end, as much a matter of taste and what one gets used to as anything else.


Edited by Mike F - 1/8/14 at 1:39am
post #600 of 2340

I don't think "neutral" has ever been discussed on head-fi before. :smile_phones:

 

Joking aside, I have my own understanding of the term (mainly derived from the measurement standards referred to in this post), but I'm fine with everyone else's personal take on it. Just disregard my "neutral" remark if your understanding happens to be different from mine, the comparisons to other phones I've given may still be useful for some readers.

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