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post #556 of 2340
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Originally Posted by mannkind246 View Post


When you commented that Z1000 is missing a lot of bass information and rolled off heavily starting at 100 Hz comparing to 7520, did you base on the actual measurement (by software) or did you actually hear the missing information and the roll off in bass?


No precise measurements by software. It was just a human ballpark guess, by my ears only. I've gotten to know where 100 hertz is along with 50 hertz, as it's a common place for bass info in a lot of songs. I really don't expect headphones to reproduce anything lower than 50 hertz without some sort of roll off, but it's nice when it's all there. But missing info from 50 to 100 is kind of bad in my book.

post #557 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Shinnbone View Post
 

 

Hi fishymamba, I've had a pair of V6 for over 20 years, and just got a 7520 about a month ago.

 

To me, the V6 has a lot of detail, but lacks bass impact, and the highs are quite pronounced and can be splashy.

 

The first thing that you will most likely notice with the 7520 is the bass. It has plenty of it. Much more prominent than the V6. At first the low frequencies are not very well defined, but they get much tighter with some use.

 

The high frequencies of the 7520 is not as pronounced as the V6, but they sound much more natural and pleasant to me.

 

Overall tonality of the 7520 is a bit darker and fuller. I find the V6 to be a bit cold, and the 7520 is nothing but. The 7520 gives at least as much (I'd actually say more) detail as the V6 while sounding much less cold and much more musical, in my opinion.

 

Except for the price, I prefer the 7520 in every way. Honestly can't think of one aspect that I think the V6 is better at. But if you are used to the V6 and really like its sound, the 7520 may be a little too different.

 

In my experience, my 7520 got a little veiled and even muffled with some songs between 50 and 100 hours. But at around 100 hours, highs and the mids cleared and became more present. Tonal balance from the lows to the highs is now excellent in my opinion.

 

Also, now with over 150 hours, I find the 7520 more efficient. I used to set the volume of my phone at about half when I first got the 7520, but now I set it at 1/3 or little higher. The 7520 is more efficient than the V6 and is louder at the same volume setting from the same source.

 

Thanks for the info! I think the increased bass impact of the 7520s should be perfect for me because I listen to lots of electronic music. I am worried about the "warmer" highs of the 7520s,  I really enjoy the crispness of the highs from the V6. 

I think there is a Sony outlet store about 20 miles from me, so I will see if I can go and try out the headphones there to make sure I am fine with the sound signature.

 

Does anyone have any recommendation for headphones around $300 that sound like the Sony V6s? I need to get something soon, because the cord on my V6s is starting to cut out, going to have to start using my cheap Klipsch S3s soon. 


Edited by fishymamba - 1/3/14 at 9:03pm
post #558 of 2340
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

 

 

This is also a Sony "PRO"... sold only in Japan

 

http://www.smci.jp/headphones/

 
 

 

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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

 

Isn't that just a V6/7506 (by another name)? It seems that Sony Japan doesn't have a 'pro' range as such like the rest of the world, although, as I said before, that only makes it more curious that they would have the 7506 on their 'pro product' page.

 

As an additional note, I think it's worth pointing out (for the information of anyone who might read this thread not knowing otherwise) that none of these headphones are made in Japan. All top range Sony hp's are made in Taiwan and have been for some time, so being sold in Japan, or being imported from Japan, does not mean that they are made in Japan.

 

No.  That's Sony Music Communications MDR CD900ST.  

It's literally the standard workhorse headphone for most of sound engineers working in the control room and artists monitoring their vocals... in Japan.

post #559 of 2340
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

 

No.  That's Sony Music Communications MDR CD900ST.  

It's literally the standard workhorse headphone for most of sound engineers working in the control room and artists monitoring their vocals... in Japan.

 

Are you saying that the CD900ST is a different headphone from the 7506/V6? It has a metallic ring around the driver housing, but that's a small cosmetic difference only. I'm happy if you prove me wrong, but I think the CD900ST is the 7506/V6 by another name, and the EX800ST is the 7550 by another name. It seems to me that Sony Japan just likes using different names for it's home market.

The 7506 is the standard workhorse for most sound engineers working in the control room...... (etc) throughout the world.

 

And I'll confirm again that I meant all these Sony phones are made in Thailand, not Taiwan!


Edited by Mike F - 1/4/14 at 2:38am
post #560 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

 

And I'll confirm again that I meant all these Sony phones are made in Thailand, not Taiwan!

LOL. I was wondering about this comment. Thanks for clearing that up. Haha.

post #561 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

 

Are you saying that the CD900ST is a different headphone from the 7506/V6? It has a metallic ring around the driver housing, but that's a small cosmetic difference only. I'm happy if you prove me wrong, but I think the CD900ST is the 7506/V6 by another name, and the EX800ST is the 7550 by another name. It seems to me that Sony Japan just likes using different names for it's home market.

The 7506 is the standard workhorse for most sound engineers working in the control room...... (etc) throughout the world.

 

And I'll confirm again that I meant all these Sony phones are made in Thailand, not Taiwan!

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/587540/sony-mdr-cd900st-professional-headphones-unboxing-video-and-a-wtf-moment

 

in short, it is (objectively) THE BEST sounding closed-headphone you can get from Sony before the 7520 came into scene.


Edited by TheBoss - 1/4/14 at 2:02pm
post #562 of 2340
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/587540/sony-mdr-cd900st-professional-headphones-unboxing-video-and-a-wtf-moment

 

in short, it is (objectively) THE BEST sounding closed-headphone you can get from Sony before the 7520 came into scene.

 

Are you taking DjAmTrax's word for the fact that they sound different from the 7506? He thought that the Z1000 and 7520 sounded the same, so I wouldn't take his word for it..............:-

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vmtdTObMuM

 

Listen from 5.14


Edited by Mike F - 1/4/14 at 2:26pm
post #563 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

 

Are you taking DjAmTrax's word for the fact that they sound different from the 7506? He thought that the Z1000 and 7520 sounded the same, so I wouldn't take his word for it..............:-

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vmtdTObMuM

 

Listen from 5.14

 

he's not the only one...

 

it's unanimous that 7506 =/= cd900st

 

i've seen all reviews and it all points to cd900st being "anti-brite" which the 7506 I owned a few years ago was not


Edited by TheBoss - 1/4/14 at 2:49pm
post #564 of 2340
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

 

he's not the only one...

 

it's unanimous that 7506 =/= cd900st

 

i've seen all reviews and it all points to cd900st being "anti-brite" which the 7506 I owned a few years ago was not

 

Are these comparative reviews from reliable sources? You might be right, and I'm happy to be corrected, but without the aforementioned, or hearing them myself, I'm rather sceptical.

post #565 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vmtdTObMuM

 

Listen from 5.14

 

after reading pages and pages of impressions here... now that clip had me scratching my head.

 

if i were to take his word on z1000/7520 then one must believe there were changes made to z1000 during the production run, and that 7520 is the definitive z1000.


Edited by TheBoss - 1/4/14 at 3:21pm
post #566 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

 

Are you saying that the CD900ST is a different headphone from the 7506/V6? It has a metallic ring around the driver housing, but that's a small cosmetic difference only. I'm happy if you prove me wrong, but I think the CD900ST is the 7506/V6 by another name, and the EX800ST is the 7550 by another name. It seems to me that Sony Japan just likes using different names for it's home market.

The 7506 is the standard workhorse for most sound engineers working in the control room...... (etc) throughout the world.

 

And I'll confirm again that I meant all these Sony phones are made in Thailand, not Taiwan!

I guess it's OK if you think so, but is it based upon anything objective?

post #567 of 2340
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

I guess it's OK if you think so, but is it based upon anything objective?

 

OK, it was late last night when I wrote my last couple of posts. Having watched the unboxing video properly I can see that they are more different physically from the 7506 than I thought. They are also actually made in Japan. Given that fact it's entirely possible that the CD900ST do sound different from the 7506. I agree, as someone said earlier, that Sony really know their market, and I think they are a big enough company to be able to produce many variants for different markets. Also, it seems that the Japanese have different sound signature preferences; that's certainly also long been the case in the world of Hi-Fi. I think it's all good. They really know how to make an excellent product and tailor it for specific uses and tastes, hence the 7520. We have Sony's ability to fine tune products to thank for that!

 

As an additional note, I once borrowed a friends very old 7506's which were made in Japan. I much preferred my newer 7506's that were made in Thailand. Previously I'd put that down to the fact that his were so old and probably had 1000's of hours on them, but now I thinks it's possible that the older Japanese made ones did actually have a different sound signature. You live and learn!

post #568 of 2340

And, back on topic(!), I've just received a second pair of 7520's from B&H Photo. Now I have the luxury of having one pair in my Studio and another pair in and around the house. It's never a bad idea to have a spare pair anyway!

 

First, I'd like to say how impressed I am with B&H's international service. From Brooklin NY to Finland in four days! They were actually in Finland in two days and spent the rest of the time clearing customs and getting to me.

 

Second, I can confirm that they do change over time, but not as much as I had thought. Yes, the bass does seem to become slightly more extended and everything opens up and smooths out slightly, but the difference is not big IMO. I think that if someone thinks that the 7520's have too much bass, that (comparative) impression will not change over time. The bass doesn't seem to be quantitatively less with my old ones, just slightly different in a good way.

However, having said that, it's possible of course to adjust to a different balance. Coming from my 7509HD's (which are arguably bass light) the bass on the 7520's seems almost too much on some material, but after extending listening they seem 'right'. Going back, the 7509HD's seem to lack bass on some material. Overall though, I think the 7520's are better balanced and more accurate, and also more enjoyable to listen to.

post #569 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

First, I'd like to say how impressed I am with B&H's international service. From Brooklin NY to Finland in four days! 

 

Shipping costs?

post #570 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Sinocelt View Post
 

 

Shipping costs?

 

$55. Import tax was another matter (22%!) but they still worked out a bit cheaper than the ones I bought from the UK. Europe is not a cheap place to live!

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