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post #541 of 2340

yes thanks, I saw your post previously.  I do want to see what Sony says or does, though.

post #542 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Shinnbone View Post
 

One thing to keep in mind is that 7520 has not been released in Japan by Sony. It is available through third-party retailers, but it is not listed on Sony's Japanese website.

 

MDR-Z1000 is what Sony considers their top-of-the-line studio monitors. 7520 is the overseas version of the Z1000. So, the 7520 is Sony's top-of-the-line studio monitors for non-Japanese markets. 

You are mistaken.

 

The MDR-Z1000 was designed to be their flagship consumer headphone.

The MDR-7520 is a different headphone, designed for the professional market, and only available through Sony's broadcast side, not the consumer side.

 

The MDR-7520 is not the "overseas" model of the MDR-Z1000, as the Z1000 were sold here as well.

Only Japan still sells the MDR-Z1000 though, they have been discontinued overseas - I believe because they were not successful.

I can't speak for the US market, but they had a significant mark-up in price here compared to Japan which meant they never took off.

 

The Z1000 were marketed as "studio quality" headphones, but to a consumer audience, not on the professional market.

post #543 of 2340

Hello everyone! I bought a set of Sony MDR V6 headphones back in 2011 as my first high quality pair of full size headphones. I have put probably close to 1000 hours on them and I have loved every single moment, but for the past couple months I have been longing for a little more. I am looking at closed back headphones in the $300-$400 range and the 7520s seem to fit the bill.

 

I do not create any music, these headphones will be only used for listening to music. My question: What can I expect from these compared with the V6s I already own? What improvements? Is the frequency response different? 

Both are studio monitors, so I am expecting the 7520 to have a flat response like the V6s. I have gotten very used to the response of the V6s, so I am looking for something similar.

 

Also do you guys recommend anything else instead of the 7520s? I'm looking for closed headphones under $400(closer to $300 would be better) that can be driven by a Fiio E10 amplifier.

 

Due to the 7520's low impedance the Fiio E10 should be more than enough to drive the headphones. Am I correct?

 

Thanks for the help!

post #544 of 2340
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Originally Posted by fishymamba View Post
 

Hello everyone! I bought a set of Sony MDR V6 headphones back in 2011 as my first high quality pair of full size headphones. I have put probably close to 1000 hours on them and I have loved every single moment, but for the past couple months I have been longing for a little more. I am looking at closed back headphones in the $300-$400 range and the 7520s seem to fit the bill.

 

I do not create any music, these headphones will be only used for listening to music. My question: What can I expect from these compared with the V6s I already own? What improvements? Is the frequency response different? 

Both are studio monitors, so I am expecting the 7520 to have a flat response like the V6s. I have gotten very used to the response of the V6s, so I am looking for something similar.

 

Also do you guys recommend anything else instead of the 7520s? I'm looking for closed headphones under $400(closer to $300 would be better) that can be driven by a Fiio E10 amplifier.

 

Due to the 7520's low impedance the Fiio E10 should be more than enough to drive the headphones. Am I correct?

 

Thanks for the help!

The 7520 is very easy to drive, so the Fiio E10 is more than enough power for the 7520. And given the price range you're looking at, the 7520 seems to be the one you need.

 

Otherwise, I have no experience with the V6, so can't comment on that.

post #545 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Shinnbone View Post
 

 

Hi Mike, F, I did not want to bore people any more with this topic, so I said that was my last post about it. But since you requested (^_^), here goes ...

 

This is very, very interesting.

 

Sony Japan's "pro" page only lists the 7506 (at the bottom of the page the page).

http://www.sony.jp/pro-audio/lineup/index.html#mixer_headphone

 

Sony US's "pro" page lists 7502, 7506, 7510, 7520, 7550, and PHA-1, as well as a carrying case for the headphones.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/cat-headphones/

 

Sony UK's "pro" page lists 7506/1 and 7510 only.

http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/products/broadcast-products-professional-audio-headphones

 

So apparently Sony is all over the place about which headphone models it considered "pro," depending on the market.

 

 

This is also a Sony "PRO"... sold only in Japan

 

http://www.smci.jp/headphones/

post #546 of 2340
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

This is also a Sony "PRO"... sold only in Japan

 

http://www.smci.jp/headphones/

 

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Mdr-cd900st-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B000UPEJCU

post #547 of 2340
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Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
 

 

 

This is also a Sony "PRO"... sold only in Japan

 

http://www.smci.jp/headphones/

 

Isn't that just a V6/7506 (by another name)? It seems that Sony Japan doesn't have a 'pro' range as such like the rest of the world, although, as I said before, that only makes it more curious that they would have the 7506 on their 'pro product' page.

 

As an additional note, I think it's worth pointing out (for the information of anyone who might read this thread not knowing otherwise) that none of these headphones are made in Japan. All top range Sony hp's are made in Taiwan (Edit: I meant Thailand!) and have been for some time, so being sold in Japan, or being imported from Japan, does not mean that they are made in Japan.


Edited by Mike F - 1/5/14 at 1:58am
post #548 of 2340
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post


The Z1000 is just missing a lot of bass information, rolled off heavily starting at 100 hertz. It also has one of the most clausterphobic soundstaging I've ever heard from a headphone, and I normally don't give two schiits about soundstaging like other people.

When you commented that Z1000 is missing a lot of bass information and rolled off heavily starting at 100 Hz comparing to 7520, did you base on the actual measurement (by software) or did you actually hear the missing information and the roll off in bass?
Edited by mannkind246 - 1/2/14 at 3:33am
post #549 of 2340
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Originally Posted by mannkind246 View Post


When you commented that Z1000 is missing a lot of bass information and rolled off heavily starting at 100 Hz comparing to 7520, did you base on the actual measurement (by software) or did you actually hear the missing information and the roll off in bass?

When I auditioned the Z1000 alongside the 7520, I could hear a distinct difference in bass signature, with the Z1000 being very rolled off by comparison. It wasn't a subtle difference, it was very obvious.

post #550 of 2340
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Originally Posted by StudioSound View Post
 

You are mistaken.

 

The MDR-Z1000 was designed to be their flagship consumer headphone.

The MDR-7520 is a different headphone, designed for the professional market, and only available through Sony's broadcast side, not the consumer side.

 

The MDR-7520 is not the "overseas" model of the MDR-Z1000, as the Z1000 were sold here as well.

Only Japan still sells the MDR-Z1000 though, they have been discontinued overseas - I believe because they were not successful.

I can't speak for the US market, but they had a significant mark-up in price here compared to Japan which meant they never took off.

 

The Z1000 were marketed as "studio quality" headphones, but to a consumer audience, not on the professional market.

 

Did you read all of my posts on this thread?

post #551 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

 

Isn't that just a V6/7506 (by another name)? It seems that Sony Japan doesn't have a 'pro' range as such like the rest of the world, although, as I said before, that only makes it more curious that they would have the 7506 on their 'pro product' page.

 

As an additional note, I think it's worth pointing out (for the information of anyone who might read this thread not knowing otherwise) that none of these headphones are made in Japan. All top range Sony hp's are made in Taiwan and have been for some time, so being sold in Japan, or being imported from Japan, does not mean that they are made in Japan.

 

All of Sony's better headphones are manufactured in Thailand,

and have been for several years.

 

(That includes the 7520, Z1000, 7509, 7506, and others.)

post #552 of 2340
Well spotted. I was just testing of course! Yes, I meant Thailand! Thanks for the correction.
post #553 of 2340
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Originally Posted by fishymamba View Post
 

Hello everyone! I bought a set of Sony MDR V6 headphones back in 2011 as my first high quality pair of full size headphones. I have put probably close to 1000 hours on them and I have loved every single moment, but for the past couple months I have been longing for a little more. I am looking at closed back headphones in the $300-$400 range and the 7520s seem to fit the bill.

 

I do not create any music, these headphones will be only used for listening to music. My question: What can I expect from these compared with the V6s I already own? What improvements? Is the frequency response different? 

Both are studio monitors, so I am expecting the 7520 to have a flat response like the V6s. I have gotten very used to the response of the V6s, so I am looking for something similar.

 

Also do you guys recommend anything else instead of the 7520s? I'm looking for closed headphones under $400(closer to $300 would be better) that can be driven by a Fiio E10 amplifier.

 

Due to the 7520's low impedance the Fiio E10 should be more than enough to drive the headphones. Am I correct?

 

Thanks for the help!

 

Hi fishymamba, I've had a pair of V6 for over 20 years, and just got a 7520 about a month ago.

 

To me, the V6 has a lot of detail, but lacks bass impact, and the highs are quite pronounced and can be splashy.

 

The first thing that you will most likely notice with the 7520 is the bass. It has plenty of it. Much more prominent than the V6. At first the low frequencies are not very well defined, but they get much tighter with some use.

 

The high frequencies of the 7520 is not as pronounced as the V6, but they sound much more natural and pleasant to me.

 

Overall tonality of the 7520 is a bit darker and fuller. I find the V6 to be a bit cold, and the 7520 is nothing but. The 7520 gives at least as much (I'd actually say more) detail as the V6 while sounding much less cold and much more musical, in my opinion.

 

Except for the price, I prefer the 7520 in every way. Honestly can't think of one aspect that I think the V6 is better at. But if you are used to the V6 and really like its sound, the 7520 may be a little too different.

 

In my experience, my 7520 got a little veiled and even muffled with some songs between 50 and 100 hours. But at around 100 hours, highs and the mids cleared and became more present. Tonal balance from the lows to the highs is now excellent in my opinion.

 

Also, now with over 150 hours, I find the 7520 more efficient. I used to set the volume of my phone at about half when I first got the 7520, but now I set it at 1/3 or little higher. The 7520 is more efficient than the V6 and is louder at the same volume setting from the same source.

post #554 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Shinnbone View Post
 

 

Hi fishymamba, I've had a pair of V6 for over 20 years, and just got a 7520 about a month ago.

 

To me, the V6 has a lot of detail, but lacks bass impact, and the highs are quite pronounced and can be splashy.

 

The first thing that you will most likely notice with the 7520 is the bass. It has plenty of it. Much more prominent than the V6. At first the low frequencies are not very well defined, but they get much tighter with some use.

 

The high frequencies of the 7520 is not as pronounced as the V6, but they sound much more natural and pleasant to me.

 

Overall tonality of the 7520 is a bit darker and fuller. I find the V6 to be a bit cold, and the 7520 is nothing but. The 7520 gives at least as much (I'd actually say more) detail as the V6 while sounding much less cold and much more musical, in my opinion.

 

Except for the price, I prefer the 7520 in every way. Honestly can't think of one aspect that I think the V6 is better at. But if you are used to the V6 and really like its sound, the 7520 may be a little too different.

 

In my experience, my 7520 got a little veiled and even muffled with some songs between 50 and 100 hours. But at around 100 hours, highs and the mids cleared and became more present. Tonal balance from the lows to the highs is now excellent in my opinion.

 

Also, now with over 150 hours, I find the 7520 more efficient. I used to set the volume of my phone at about half when I first got the 7520, but now I set it at 1/3 or little higher. The 7520 is more efficient than the V6 and is louder at the same volume setting from the same source.

 

Having heard the 7506, I would say that's a very good description of the difference. I suspect the reason you are listening at a lower volume setting now is not that the phones have become more efficient (although that's possible I guess), but that previously you were listening at a higher volume to compensate for the smoother, less obvious, treble, but now that you're used to the sound you can hear as much detail (probably more) at a lower volume. I certainly agree that the 7520 improves over time.

post #555 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
 

 

Having heard the 7506, I would say that's a very good description of the difference. I suspect the reason you are listening at a lower volume setting now is not that the phones have become more efficient (although that's possible I guess), but that previously you were listening at a higher volume to compensate for the smoother, less obvious, treble, but now that you're used to the sound you can hear as much detail (probably more) at a lower volume. I certainly agree that the 7520 improves over time.

 

It could very well be due to the improved clarity rather than efficiency.

 

Pretty much every other pair of headphones I've used has a volume level at which they start sounding much better. In other words, until the volume reaches a certain level, most headphones do not sound *that* great. But I find the 7520 to be very good at low volume also. Sure, it starts to sound more lively and dynamic at a certain volume level, but the tonal sacrifice at lower volume is much, much less compared to other headphones I've used.

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