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post #1 of 13
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How are the Shure SRH 1840 as endgame headphones? Is the difference between these and the HD800 mind-blowing?

post #2 of 13

Heya,

 

The SRH1840 is not on the same level as the HD800. And that's not because of branding or anything like that. The SRH1840 is a good headphone, but I would not even really consider it higher end. It's an over-costed mid-fi headphone as far as I'm concerned. It has a great sound stage, great mids, very crisp and clean sound. But it just cannot render low frequencies the way a headphone that costs that much honestly should be able to do. Maybe I'm spoiled by orthos, but again, even $300 headphones can drop a more accurate representation of a 30hz tone (at least to my ears). A flat headphone should be able to perform just as well at 30hz as 300hz as 3khz. And the SRH1840 just doesn't drop 30hz well. It starts to really roll off around 40~50hz. Granted, for someone who wants a super airy sound, with very little bass bleed to none, it's good for that. But then again, the SRH940 has that sound for a lot less cash. I guess I'm just jaded, so take it with a grain of salt, since a headphone that costs as much as the SRH1840 to me should be able to do at least what the headphones in the $300 range do, and then offer more. But it just doesn't seem to do that. But that's just me. And I like Shure, but I just don't find their "high end" offerings to be worthy of the word "high end" quite yet.

 

Regardless of my diatribe, the reality is that if the SRH1840 sounds perfect to you then it is an end-game headphone for you.

 

Very best,

post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post
 

Heya,

 

The SRH1840 is not on the same level as the HD800. And that's not because of branding or anything like that. The SRH1840 is a good headphone, but I would not even really consider it higher end. It's an over-costed mid-fi headphone as far as I'm concerned. It has a great sound stage, great mids, very crisp and clean sound. But it just cannot render low frequencies the way a headphone that costs that much honestly should be able to do. Maybe I'm spoiled by orthos, but again, even $300 headphones can drop a more accurate representation of a 30hz tone (at least to my ears). A flat headphone should be able to perform just as well at 30hz as 300hz as 3khz. And the SRH1840 just doesn't drop 30hz well. It starts to really roll off around 40~50hz. Granted, for someone who wants a super airy sound, with very little bass bleed to none, it's good for that. But then again, the SRH940 has that sound for a lot less cash. I guess I'm just jaded, so take it with a grain of salt, since a headphone that costs as much as the SRH1840 to me should be able to do at least what the headphones in the $300 range do, and then offer more. But it just doesn't seem to do that. But that's just me. And I like Shure, but I just don't find their "high end" offerings to be worthy of the word "high end" quite yet.

 

Regardless of my diatribe, the reality is that if the SRH1840 sounds perfect to you then it is an end-game headphone for you.

 

Very best,

 

I have been reading that on this board alot. Even expensive $5000 professional studio monitors used in the music industry roll off the low end which are representing the music accurately, unlike HiFi speakers which don't roll off. 

 

How good is the Shure SRH 1840 in other area's since I disagree with the statement that the bass is not good based on what professional studio monitors are sounding like?


Edited by ubs28 - 9/21/13 at 9:30am
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I have been reading that on this board alot. Even expensive $5000 professional studio monitors used in the music industry roll off the low end which are representing the music accurately, unlike HiFi speakers which don't roll off. 

 

How good is the Shure SRH 1840 in other area's since I disagree with the statement that the bass is not good based on what professional studio monitors are sounding like?

 

Heya,

 
Depends on what you want the speakers or headphones for. Most of the expensive studio monitors, be they speakers or headphones, do roll off bass. There is a reason for that. But they're not being used for pleasure listening. They're being used for a specific function. And there's a reason why no one buys $12,000 speaker setups that sound like they roll off bass and can't drop a 25hz tone, flat, in a room, after tweaking.
 
If these headphones are just for pleasure listening, then my statement above is reflective of that. I wouldn't get them for pleasure listening at all unless you simply despise truly flat bass response. Truly flat bass response has an equal response at 30hz as 300hz. This is amazingly difficult.
 
If these headphones are for mixing and mastering, then sure, they can be good for that. But quite over-priced for such a use.

 

Very best,

post #5 of 13

It depends what is enough for you.

I wouldn't call them end game, but some of my friends think that Beats are end game so... I'm personally still looking for my end game headphones. 

post #6 of 13
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It depends what is enough for you.

I wouldn't call them end game, but some of my friends think that Beats are end game so... I'm personally still looking for my end game headphones. 

 

I have been eyeing on the HD-800 but I'm not sure if I'm willing to spend $2000+ on such a setup if the difference isn't very big. How big is the difference  between the Shure SRH 1840 and the HD-800? 10%, 20%, 50%, 100% better?

 

If the difference isn't super huge, i'll stick with these headphones probably. 

post #7 of 13
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I have been eyeing on the HD-800 but I'm not sure if I'm willing to spend $2000+ on such a setup if the difference isn't very big. How big is the difference  between the Shure SRH 1840 and the HD-800? 10%, 20%, 50%, 100% better?

If the difference isn't super huge, i'll stick with these headphones probably. 
To be honest the difference between the HD600 and the HD800 wasn't huge...
Edited by lin0003 - 9/22/13 at 4:08am
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To be honest the difference between the HD600 and the HD600 wasn't huge...

 

I wonder why? :wink_face:

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I wonder why? :wink_face:

 

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To be honest the difference between the HD600 and the HD800 wasn't huge...

 

Oops

post #10 of 13
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To be honest the difference between the HD600 and the HD800 wasn't huge...

 

Since the Shure SRH 1840 is very similar to the HD600, I can suspect the same conclusion can be said about the HD800 vs Shure SRH 1840? :)

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Since the Shure SRH 1840 is very similar to the HD600, I can suspect the same conclusion can be said about the HD800 vs Shure SRH 1840? :)

 

Maybe...

While the HD800 was on a higher level technically, I still like listening to the HD600 more because the HD800 is too bright for me. I like the tonal balance of the HD600 more. 
post #12 of 13

Hd800 is picky with amp and source but once you find the right gear to pair them with they are fantastic and much better than hd600 IMO.I think its better to go with the shure unless your amp and dac pairs well with hd800.

post #13 of 13

I never heard the HD600 so I can't confirm whether it sounds similar to the SRH1840. But just like what MalveauX said, the shures are no better than mid-fi cans at half the price, and the problem isn't just the bass. Narrow soundstage, and lack of detail and transparency really bring down what could have been a really wonderful sound.

 

If you want to reason that the SRH1840 is sufficiently close enough to high-end performance for the money, you can argue the exact same thing comparing it to the K701/DT880. Honestly I prefer both K701 and DT880 over the Shure's, and we're talking a third of the price.


Edited by viralcow - 9/22/13 at 10:36am
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