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post #286 of 412
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I stumbled across this thread by accident. didn't know there was a way to get dacs work with the iphone! I'd like to try it with my iPhone 4, a Fiio e07k and my B&W P7. Do I need any additional cable? From what I have read there is an USB to micro USB included with the Fiio, so I wouldn't need anything else. Is this right?

 

As far as cables, you will need iphone 4 > 30pin to 3.5mm > Fiio (analog in) OR iphone 4 > apple 30pin camera connect kit > usb to usb mini > Fiio (digital in). Im not sure if the second configuration will work or even be beneficial because as far as I know, 30pin outputs are all analog. I also don't know if you will get the "this usb device draws too much power" error in which case you'd have to add a powered usb hub into the chain after the CCK, which will make the setup become non-portable. The first setup is your typical iphone to portable amp setup and utilizes the iphone's internal dac (which cannot be bypassed via 30 pin) and the Fiio's amp section...but im sure u knew that already :)

 

The 2nd configuration mentioned by MeowMix is the one to go with so you bypass the DAC in your iPhone. The cable you need to add is the CCK - camera connection kit. The 30 pin CCK includes two adapters - one USB and one SD card. You only use the USB one. 

 

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MC531ZM/A/apple-ipad-camera-connection-kit?fnode=3a

 

To confirm:

 

iPhone4 -> Apple 30 pin CCK -> USB to USB mini -> Fiio e07k USB input -> B&W P7 headphones

 

As mentioned, just make sure to turn off USB charging on the e07k or else you'll get the 'too much power' error. This setup will send digital audio to the e07k USB input and the e07k will do the DAC (digital to analog) conversion and then amplify the analog signal to feed the headphone output.

 

And as mentioned above by teb1013, your iPhone 4 needs to have iOS 7.x loaded.

 

Dale


Edited by AgentXXL - 11/28/13 at 8:12pm
post #287 of 412
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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post

Can we perhaps share a list of external DACs that *do* work without requiring a USB hub in between?

Maybe you can look at this thread.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/507559/list-of-dacs-that-work-with-ipad
post #288 of 412
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The 2nd configuration mentioned by MeowMix is the one to go with so you bypass the DAC in your iPhone. The cable you need to add is the CCK - camera connection kit. The 30 pin CCK includes two adapters - one USB and one SD card. You only use the USB one. 

 

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MC531ZM/A/apple-ipad-camera-connection-kit?fnode=3a

 

To confirm:

 

iPhone4 -> Apple 30 pin CCK -> USB to USB mini -> Fiio e07k USB input -> B&W P7 headphones

 

As mentioned, just make sure to turn off USB charging on the e07k or else you'll get the 'too much power' error. This setup will send digital audio to the e07k USB input and the e07k will do the DAC (digital to analog) conversion and then amplify the analog signal to feed the headphone output.

 

And as mentioned above by teb1013, your iPhone 4 needs to have iOS 7.x loaded.

 

Dale

 

thanks for taking the time and giving me feedback on this. I am very interested in finding out if it improves the sound of the P7 which is supposed to not needing an amp. 

post #289 of 412
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thanks for taking the time and giving me feedback on this. I am very interested in finding out if it improves the sound of the P7 which is supposed to not needing an amp. 

I don't know much about the p7 but, many headphones that work well without a dac/amp still have a great deal of improvement once they are played from a digital signal and amplified. This is certainly the case with my Senn HD 558s.
post #290 of 412

Damn ios 7 hmm not bad apple not baddd

post #291 of 412

Are other people getting significant batter drain using the CCK?  Seems to drain my 5S more than playing with the headphone out.

post #292 of 412
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Are other people getting significant batter drain using the CCK?  Seems to drain my 5S more than playing with the headphone out.


If you are powering the DAC with the CCK, then definitely yes.   I see the battery decrease visibly when I use the microStreamer which uses USB for power.

 

Other DACs will draw power, too, even if they have a battery.  The amount is limited to 100mA always, but it can kill the iDevice's battery over time.  I have started to turn off my iPod Touch fully (long top button press followed by swipe on red) when I have it connected to a Centrance HiFi-M8 for that reason -- the connection does not drain the battery that way. If you have an iPhone on standby that is connected to a DAC, expect to lose some battery time. 

post #293 of 412
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If you are powering the DAC with the CCK, then definitely yes.   I see the battery decrease visibly when I use the microStreamer which uses USB for power.

 

Other DACs will draw power, too, even if they have a battery.  The amount is limited to 100mA always, but it can kill the iDevice's battery over time.

 

Thanks for confirming.  I didn't think it would be that great of a drain with battery power on the amp section (Pico Amp/DAC), but looks like it is enough of a draw to make a difference. 

post #294 of 412

hi,

 

has someone tried to use this setup: iPhone 4 -> CCK -> Asus Xonar STU?

do I need a (un)powered usb hub?

 

thanks


Edited by sarsipius - 12/7/13 at 11:17am
post #295 of 412

just to contribute a bit.

 

iPhone 5 -> lightning to usb camera -> ibasso d-zero -> ba200 works great!

post #296 of 412
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hi,

 

has someone tried to use this setup: iPhone 4 -> CCK -> Asus Xonar STU?

do I need a (un)powered usb hub?

 

thanks

it works without usb hub ^^

post #297 of 412
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Originally Posted by sarsipius View Post

 
hi,

has someone tried to use this setup: iPhone 4 -> CCK -> Asus Xonar STU?
do I need a (un)powered usb hub?

thanks
it works without usb hub ^^

Congrats! Since the Xonar has its own power source and isn't really used portably, that's what I expected.

Dale
post #298 of 412
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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post
 

 

The 2nd configuration mentioned by MeowMix is the one to go with so you bypass the DAC in your iPhone. The cable you need to add is the CCK - camera connection kit. The 30 pin CCK includes two adapters - one USB and one SD card. You only use the USB one. 

 

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MC531ZM/A/apple-ipad-camera-connection-kit?fnode=3a

 

To confirm:

 

iPhone4 -> Apple 30 pin CCK -> USB to USB mini -> Fiio e07k USB input -> B&W P7 headphones

 

As mentioned, just make sure to turn off USB charging on the e07k or else you'll get the 'too much power' error. This setup will send digital audio to the e07k USB input and the e07k will do the DAC (digital to analog) conversion and then amplify the analog signal to feed the headphone output.

 

And as mentioned above by teb1013, your iPhone 4 needs to have iOS 7.x loaded.

 

Dale

Hello,

Does iphone need to be jailbroken?

post #299 of 412
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Originally Posted by tworule View Post

Hello,
Does iphone need to be jailbroken?

No, just requires iOS7 as that is the operating system version that enables the audio to passthru.
post #300 of 412

Hello,

this is my first post...I've been following this thread by some days and it's very useful for me because I've just bought a Fiio E17 to use with my Laptop and iPhone.

The following picture shows my configuration with iPhone 5 iOs 7.0.3 ( iPhone --------> lightning to camera -------> E17 -------> Headphone)  :

 

When I play the music in my iPhone, the sounds come out from the speakers of the phone and not in the headphones.

Where did I make a mistake in my configuration?


Edited by teohouse88 - 12/19/13 at 4:37pm
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