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post #196 of 453

Have you read this !!!  

 

An app that allow to play 24/192 & DSD from an iPHONE to an external DAC !!!  HOURAHH ???

 

http://www.audiostream.com/content/onkyo-hf-player-app-offers-24192-and-dsd-ios-devices

post #197 of 453
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I just added a DSD file.. Suzie Daines - Love is Absolutely Free (dsf) Played on PCM and DoP sound fantastic!

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/free-onkyo-hf-player-app-ios-plays-high-res-dsd%2A-dop-flac-wav-17917/#post264852

 

Holy Smoke, that's like the coolest thing on Earth

 

http://www.eu.onkyo.com/en/articles/onkyo-hf-player-app-offers-precision-equalizer-192-24-playback-on-ios-devices-96729.html

 

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 Compatibility: Requires iOS 6.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. This app is optimized for iPhone 5.

 

https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/onkyo-hf-player/id704139896?mt=8

post #198 of 453
How do you get those files onto your idevice?
post #199 of 453
post #200 of 453
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post
 

Have you read this !!!  

 

An app that allow to play 24/192 & DSD from an iPHONE to an external DAC !!!  HOURAHH ???

 

http://www.audiostream.com/content/onkyo-hf-player-app-offers-24192-and-dsd-ios-devices

Sounds pretty neat, although I don't have any hi-res files. I think I'll try the free version to see how good the EQ is.

post #201 of 453

Just a quick question, could the following micro USB adapter plus another "special" USB OTG adapter work just like CCK?

 

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post #202 of 453
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post
 

Just a quick question, could the following micro USB adapter plus another "special" USB OTG adapter work just like CCK?

 

[...]

 

Someone raised the question earlier about using the Lightning-Micro USB adaptor in lieu of the Lightning 'CCK,' and the understanding seems to be that the Micro USB adaptor is merely for power purposes, and does not contain the USB Host circuitry that the CCK adaptors do.

post #203 of 453
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Originally Posted by brhfl View Post

Someone raised the question earlier about using the Lightning-Micro USB adaptor in lieu of the Lightning 'CCK,' and the understanding seems to be that the Micro USB adaptor is merely for power purposes, and does not contain the USB Host circuitry that the CCK adaptors do.

Correct - that was me that mentioned the CCK includes the circuitry to complete the USB host interface. The microUSB adapters do not contain this circuitry.

Dale
post #204 of 453
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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post

Correct - that was me that mentioned the CCK includes the circuitry to complete the USB host interface. The microUSB adapters do not contain this circuitry.

Dale
As in its missing something in particular? Or can some re-wiring be done akin to modding usb to otg?
post #205 of 453
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Originally Posted by ThePrince425 View Post


As in its missing something in particular? Or can some re-wiring be done akin to modding usb to otg?

 

The Apple microUSB to Lightning adapter does not contain the chip (integrated circuit) that exists inside the CCK adapter. This chip is something specific to Apple and is necessary to implement a full USB host interface. The standard USB connectivity on an iPhone is not a full USB connection. It would not be easy, if at all possible, to make an adapter that uses the Apple microUSB to Lightning connector to implement the full USB host interface. It's definitely not as simple as 'some re-wiring'.

 

I suspect down the road we'll see some 3rd party CCK replacements that have the required circuitry in them to implement the full USB host interface, but for now the Apple CCKs are the only way possible.

 

Dale

post #206 of 453
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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post


I suspect down the road we'll see some 3rd party CCK replacements that have the required circuitry in them to implement the full USB host interface, but for now the Apple CCKs are the only way possible.

Dale
I just got myself a 3rd party lightning camera usb adaptor from the bay. I've yet to try it out but I guess from your statement, I won't be able to use it frown.gif will report any miracles soon...
post #207 of 453
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Originally Posted by ThePrince425 View Post


I just got myself a 3rd party lightning camera usb adaptor from the bay. I've yet to try it out but I guess from your statement, I won't be able to use it frown.gif will report any miracles soon...

 

Not knowing Singapore and 'the bay', I have no idea whether it will work or not. Is 'the bay' an electronics marketplace or a store that sells electronics/iPhone/smartphone accessories? That said, I'm as hopeful as the next person that it does. The sooner we have 3rd party devices that work means it'll be easier to mod and create some nice compact and portable designs.

 

Dale

post #208 of 453
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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post

Not knowing Singapore and 'the bay', I have no idea whether it will work or not. Is 'the bay' an electronics marketplace or a store that sells electronics/iPhone/smartphone accessories? That said, I'm as hopeful as the next person that it does. The sooner we have 3rd party devices that work means it'll be easier to mod and create some nice compact and portable designs.

Dale
eBay haha, your description wasn't far off either smily_headphones1.gif bought it from a seller in china, couple of bucks. Works fine to transfer photos from external storage to ipad (as supposed to), somewhat excited of e prospect of using it to work Glacier with iphone, fingers crossed
post #209 of 453

AHHHH... I got lost in this thread.    I bought the  NON iDevice version of the Centrance M8 LX.

 

Could someone be kind enough to summarize for me exactly what do I need to use let's say an ipad Mini/iOS7 with a USB DAC/AMP like the NON iDevice version of the Centrance M8 ? 

 

- Is there an elegant (short) version of the connection solution  (not: long cable + hub + adapter + another cable.....) ? 

 

- Will the KERO by itself  work ? without any extra adapter ? or what else Will I need to add to the Kero ? 

 

- Will this solution allow the M8 to play, WITHOUT Downsampling,  24/96 files ? 

 

thanks in advance.

 

Bertrand


Edited by bmichels - 10/26/13 at 5:34am
post #210 of 453
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post

AHHHH... I got lost in this thread.    I bought the  NON iDevice version of the Centrance M8 LX.

Could someone be kind enough to summarize for me exactly what do I need to use let's say an ipad Mini/iOS7 with a USB DAC/AMP like the NON iDevice version of the Centrance M8 ? 

- Is there an elegant (short) version of the connection solution  (not: long cable + hub + adapter + another cable.....) ? 

- Will the KERO by itself  work ? without any extra adapter ? or what else Will I need to add to the Kero ? 

- Will this solution allow the M8 to play, WITHOUT Downsampling,  24/96 files ? 

thanks in advance.

Bertrand

I have no direct experience with the Centrance M8, but my understanding is that it is possible to use the LX version with an iOS device - iPad with iOS v6 or higher or iPhone with iOS v7 or higher. As for the cabling, i'm almost certain that you'll need the CCK, a small USB hub (probably passive, but maybe powered) and the USB cable to connect your M8 to the hub.

iDevice -> CCK -> USB hub -> M8

The Kero cable will NOT work by itself. And yes, you'll be able to play 24/96 files without downsampling by either streaming them from your computer or by using an app like the Onkyo one above that supports direct playback of hi-res audio files that you've loaded to your iDevice.

Dale
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