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post #136 of 442

It works with iPhone 5 iOS7 -> Lightning to USB Camera Adaptor -> Standard USB Cable -> Cambridge DacMagic.

 

Just so I'm sure: When you get audio with a Lightning or 30-pin adaptor to USB to DAC, that audio is always digital, right?

 

This is pretty awesome.

 

October 1st, a Norwegian streaming service, WiMP (http://wimp.no/) - competitor to Spotify, but not available in as many countries yet, launched WiMP HiFI - streaming in Lossless Audio Flac & Alac files. While the regular WiMP (AAC 320 KBPS) is available for "all" platforms, including PC and Mac, WiMP HiFi is for the time being only available on iOS, Android, Sonos, Bluesound and AirPlay. PC and Mac versions will probably arrive around Christmas, but they still have to sort out some security issues.

 

I myself used regular WiMP on my iPhone 4s as a walkman and on a Macbook Air 2013 at home together with my DacMagic. So yesterday I bought myself a iPad Mini and the Lightning to USB Camera Adaptor (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter) to use with my DacMagic and stereo at home. A great and handy combo, of course, and I kind of wanted a iPad Mini to show photos to friends and family as well. (And I got it at 25 % discount.)

 

But then after reading some rumours in combination with some DACs, I tried it with my wifes iPhone 5 and it worked! I didn't try the WiMP HiFi, but I got sound from YouTube to my DAC - that means it's working, right? The signal is digital?

 

So I ordered myself this adaptor http://www.ebay.com/itm/330861644463?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 , to see if I can use my iPhone 4s as well. Seems I didn't really need the iPad mini after all, only a cable! (Will keep the iPad Mini, though.)

post #137 of 442

Yes USB audio is always digital. Plus it's going into your DAC.

post #138 of 442

Quick note.. my Stoner Acoustics UD110 arrived today.. and I can confirm it works with my iPhone 4 (running the latest version of iOS7) + CCK.  An unpowered hub was needed to facilitate USB audio, though.  I can't confirm if hi-res works since I don't have any such tracks on my iPhone.. but I'll get some transferred and report back.

post #139 of 442
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post
 

I can't confirm if hi-res works since I don't have any such tracks on my iPhone.. but I'll get some transferred and report back.

Note that you will need to use third-party software to determine this. Attempting to sync via the normal music library sync on iTunes will error out for files over 24/48 (this is what I've heard - I can confirm over 24/44.1).

post #140 of 442
So this will work with ipad2 as we'll..

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post #141 of 442
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Originally Posted by thisisvv View Post

So this will work with ipad2 as we'll..

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Yes. The CCK has worked with iPads (even the ipad 1) even before iOS 7. The ability to work with the iphone is new with ios 7. As everyone has been saying you may need a USB hub to avoid a "low power" issue.
Edited by teb1013 - 10/14/13 at 7:26am
post #142 of 442

Can anyone tell me if any of this will work:

 

iPhone4 (iOS 7.0.2) > Apple LOD (USB passthrough) > CCK > Powered USB hub > USB DAC (not sure what yet)

 

I don't have anything setup yet so I can't test myself.  I only have the iPhone4 and LOD.  No CCK or DAC.

post #143 of 442
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Originally Posted by shaocaholica View Post
 

Can anyone tell me if any of this will work:

 

iPhone4 (iOS 7.0.2) > Apple LOD (USB passthrough) > CCK > Powered USB hub > USB DAC (not sure what yet)

[…]

I can't answer, as I don't know how true the USB passthrough is, but I'm curious as to why you would want the LOD in place? Once you had the CCK feeding the USB DAC, you'd be getting a line out that's (hopefully) considerably better than the line out from the iPhone's internal DAC… 

post #144 of 442
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Originally Posted by shaocaholica View Post
 

Can anyone tell me if any of this will work:

 

iPhone4 (iOS 7.0.2) > Apple LOD (USB passthrough) > CCK > Powered USB hub > USB DAC (not sure what yet)

 

I don't have anything setup yet so I can't test myself.  I only have the iPhone4 and LOD.  No CCK or DAC.

As mentioned, why do you need the Apple LOD with USB passthrough in the chain? The normal way to do this would be iPhone4 > CCK > Powered (or Passive) USB Hub (depending on your USB DAC) > USB DAC.

 

I can verify that it works without the LOD you've mentioned.

 

Dale

post #145 of 442
Sorry I should have explained the LOD as a pass through. I want to stand up my iphone on my desk instead of having it lay flat. That's the only reason but it's important enough to ask/try.

It's basically a glorified 30pin right angle adapter.
Edited by shaocaholica - 10/19/13 at 3:46pm
post #146 of 442
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Originally Posted by shaocaholica View Post

Sorry I should have explained the LOD as a pass through. I want to stand up my iphone on my desk instead of having it lay flat. That's the only reason but it's important enough to ask/try.

It's basically a glorified 30pin right angle adapter.

 

If the 'LOD' is as simple as a 30 pin right angle adapter, you should have no problems using it. If however you're talking about the standard Apple dock for the iPhone4, that isn't a simple 30 pin right angle adapter and has extra circuitry to support a 1/8" line out jack and control via an Apple remote (at least in the version I have). The only way to know if it's going to work with your 'LOD' is to try it.

 

Dale

post #147 of 442

Ok, I'll have to give it a try.  I have a cheap PCM2704 DAC I could test with.  Just need a CCK.

 

What about lightning docks?  Anyone know if those are simple pass throughs?

 

I haven't read through the whole thread yet but is it pretty certain that iOS7 on any supported device is going to work with any DAC thats USB audio v1 compliant and of course not power limited?

post #148 of 442
Looking to do this:

4s/CCK/Meridian Explorer/headphones


Don't think I've read anyone doing this yet? Will it need a powered USB hub?

Thxs
post #149 of 442
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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post

If the 'LOD' is as simple as a 30 pin right angle adapter, you should have no problems using it. If however you're talking about the standard Apple dock for the iPhone4, that isn't a simple 30 pin right angle adapter and has extra circuitry to support a 1/8" line out jack and control via an Apple remote (at least in the version I have). The only way to know if it's going to work with your 'LOD' is to try it.

Dale

I think that you're right. The LOD relies on the iPhone dac and doesn't give out a digital signal. The CCK plugged directly into the iPhone or iPad provides the digital out for your dac. The hub is, of course important to avoid the "low power" glitch.
post #150 of 442

confirmed, Schiit Modi works fine...

 

Schiit Audio's Modi works just fine with an iPhone 4/iOS7/CCK/WireWorldVioletUSB/SchittModi/Nuforce S3-BT powered speakers.

 

My wife upgraded her iphone4 (no S) phone to iOS7 earlier this week.  So I just put the CCK into it, unplugged the USB cable from my mac pro desktop pc system, and plugged the USB cable into the CCK.  I initially did get the 'low power' message, ignored it, and I am now streaming Tunein Radio just fine.. She has not music on the device so I cannot test resolution of output.

 

UPDATE: Although this does work, I think a powered USB hub will be better, as the 'low power' msg does flash on periodically. btw, tried this same set up with my ipad 2, iOS6, works, but get the 'low power' msg as well.

 

UPDATE 2: Sure enough, plugged in a D-Link AC Powered USB hub, model DUB-H7, and everything played well together.  Now to find a small-ish portable self-powered USB hub.

 

thoughts? thanks.


Edited by dcginc - 10/20/13 at 11:38am
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