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post #496 of 1119

I've been using them all day every day at work for about 2 weeks and continue to compare them against others trying to find nirvana.  The more other pairs I try, the more convinced I am I've found the best option for me.  These really sound outstanding to me.  The only thing I've listened to that got me thinking was some Sennheiser HD 558's today, but that's a very different comparison and not very fair.

 

The only thing I was wishing for was a bit more bass.  Yesterday I discovered a better balance with my NuForce ICON IDO.  I turned the digital out volume from my phone down to about half and turned the volume up from the NuForce instead.  That seemed to get the amp into a better output range and I'm much happier with the sound I'm hearing now.

post #497 of 1119
I've just auditioned P7 this morning.
And then,
I've just sold my P5 this afternoon.
I"ll have my P7 next pay day.
post #498 of 1119
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post

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Soundwise, the P7 has a much brighter sound signature than the P5.  The P5 is a dark headphone with a treble rolloff which is a little too aggressive for my tastes.  It is hard to tell if the P7 rolls off, but it is less than the P5 for sure.  It has a balanced sound, with a bit of a boost in the bass.  In fact, the bass sounded loose to me.  I was listening to Diana Krall's "Live In Paris" CD (one of the selections they had of which I am familiar), and the bass was a bit more forward than I am used to.  Now, this might have been the fault of the amp setup, but I could not change that (I asked, and the manager said no, we can't disconnect the system for individual test).


I used the same album on my iPod Classic to audition P7 today at the local B&W retailer. And I agree with you, there is a "slight" mid-bass bump which bleeds into the mids a bit. I use my AKG K3003 as my reference (I know, that's comparing apple with orange) and while I prefer the K3003's overall tonality and note extension, P7 is much more dynamic and much more exciting.

So I am getting it!
post #499 of 1119

Hi Guys,I'm new to the forum but have just purchased the P7's and am loving them so far. I've just had delivered the latest issue of Hi-Fi Choice which gives the P7's a good write up but says that the sound takes 'a giant leap' when swapping out the cable with the apple control for the straight through cable. In fact they say you might as well chuck out the icontrol cable! Now I havnt done any research (yet) into the apple control protocol and whether or not it may have a negative impact on the driver signal paths. I would assume that the 4th contact on the minijack plug is an isolated path for the control signal for volume/pause/track skip and that the Left/Right/Ground should pass straight through to the headphones. The comments seem a bit far fetched to me. Has anyone done an A-B yet? I'll certainly be doing my own comparison in the next few days...

post #500 of 1119
I did a direct comparison between the two cables, especially after some reports of faulty cable with the Momentum headphones. The Apple cable introduces more complexity, but that doesn't necessarily have to mean worse sound if it's done right. When comparing the two cables I was not able to hear a difference, either subjectively or blind folded.

Listen for yourself, but don't be surprised if you don't hear a difference.

That being said, I now use the straight cable since I'm going through the Theorem dac/amp which removes the control functionality anyway.
post #501 of 1119
These seem to be the competing with the NAD HP50s.
post #502 of 1119

I have both the NAD and P7 on hand and they're very different headphones.  The NAD have a more laid back sound, the P7 are more engaging.  I JUST got the NAD, so will share more thoughts when I do a full comparison of the two.

post #503 of 1119
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Originally Posted by PolkManiac View Post

I have both the NAD and P7 on hand and they're very different headphones.  The NAD have a more laid back sound, the P7 are more engaging.  I JUST got the NAD, so will share more thoughts when I do a full comparison of the two.

Just curious but would you say they compliment each other well or are they not that different?
post #504 of 1119
They're pretty different. The NAD is laid back and I could listen to it for hours with no fatigue. The P7 is more exciting and has more sparkle on the high end, it's not bright overall but on some recordings the treble can be a bit harsh. I've heard people say that the P7 is never harsh or sibilant but I'd encourage

If I had to choose only one it would be the P7, but they're different enough that I'll probably keep both.
post #505 of 1119
Ok thanks for your comparison.
post #506 of 1119
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Originally Posted by johnwu View Post

I've just auditioned P7 this morning.
And then,
I've just sold my P5 this afternoon.
I"ll have my P7 next pay day.

Probably a good idea to sell the P5 before the P7 arrives. After comparing the 2 for a week I concluded that although the P7 is possibly more accurate the P5 is more involving and musical.

The P7, although beautiful, desirable and worthy, was returned yesterday.

Ian

Caveat: My ears are 59 years old, my music is 21st century rock & pop but what I hear is unique to me.
Edited by xeroian - 11/26/13 at 2:34pm
post #507 of 1119
I must admit it's shocking to hear someone prefer the P5. To each his own but the P5 is a very colored headphone, but hey you like what you like.
post #508 of 1119
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Originally Posted by xeroian View Post

Probably a good idea to sell the P5 before the P7 arrives. After comparing the 2 for a week I concluded that although the P7 is possibly more accurate the P5 is more involving and musical.

The P7, although beautiful, desirable and worthy, was returned yesterday.

Ian

Caveat: My ears are 59 years old, my music is 21st century rock & pop but what I hear is unique to me.

Man you've got me having second thoughts because I do like my P5 a lot. I know I am going to miss my P5 but I can only keep one, and after auditioning P7, I so wanna get it.

If I could, I would love to keep both of them wink.gif
post #509 of 1119

When you have the P7 and you get used to the large improvement in clarity, refinement and neutrality you just won't want to go back to the P5 after. 

I just uploaded an album on my profile with a collection of shots I took of the P7s in black and white, for those interested. 

post #510 of 1119
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Originally Posted by PolkManiac View Post

I must admit it's shocking to hear someone prefer the P5. To each his own but the P5 is a very colored headphone, but hey you like what you like.

Everything is coloured. Living rooms are coloured, concert rooms and symphony halls are coloured. It is pretty much a meaningless word. I note that NAD and PSB are deliberately researching how best to colour their headphones to sound like loudspeakers in a living room. They are supposed to sound great but certainly won't be measured as having a flat tonal response. So don't be put off by words.

I spotted the other day that Tyll of Innerfidelity has the P5 on his Wall of Fame. However this thread isn't about the P5 so let's move on. I have provided more details on my P7 decision below.

Ian
Edited by xeroian - 11/27/13 at 3:58pm
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