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post #1 of 18
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right now i am using pioneer se-a1000's in conjunction with a xonar dg. for the most part i like the headphones, but i ran into an issue. my right ear is touching the foam pad on the inside of the headphone. it is irritating enough that i try to avoid putting the right side on at all, and that is no fun. i tried putting craft foam under the ear pads but it wasnt enough. the foam also blocked some sound. after awhile i ended up putting rolled cotton batting under the pads. but its putting a weird strain on my head.

 

i have been looking into new headphones and found these:

akg k 240

sennheiser hd 280 pro

jvc ha-rx900

sennheiser hd 518

superlux hd668b

beyerdynamic dtx 710

takstar hi 2050

beyerdynamic dtx 910

sony mdr7506

sony mdr-v6

 

i found most of those being suggested on these forums. 

 

now for the questions.

should i buy thicker pads for the pioneers, and forget about getting new headphones? if so, what pads would work well?

should i buy new headphones? if so, what would you suggest? 

is the dac/amp on the xonar dg good enough for the pioneers or the new headphones?

 

total budget is $100usd. if im getting new headphones i would like over the ear.

post #2 of 18

Might find some used Sennheiser HD558s for around $100.

post #3 of 18
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amazon has 1 refurbished for $115 shipped. but when you check with who is selling them. they are out of stock. also the used ones are almost the same price as the new.

i will keep looking for them. but if that falls through, do you have any other suggestions?

if i do find the 558's, will the xonar dg be enough? will the xonar dg be good for most headphones in this price range?

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amazon has 1 refurbished for $115 shipped. but when you check with who is selling them. they are out of stock. also the used ones are almost the same price as the new.

i will keep looking for them. but if that falls through, do you have any other suggestions?

if i do find the 558's, will the Xonar DG be enough? will the Xonar DG be good for most headphones in this price range?

Headphone up to around 150-Ohms should be able to be driven by the Xonar DG's headphone amplifier.

The HD558s are 50-Ohms.

post #5 of 18
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how do 518s compare to the 558s? i read that bass is more prevalent on the 518s, and thats all i could really find.

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How do 518s compare to the 558s? I read that bass is more prevalent on the 518s, and that's all I could really find.

To the best of my knowledge, the Senn HD518, HD558 & HD598 use the same drive, but different cup designs.

I believe the HD518 gets it's stronger bass by sacrificing mids and treble, using a less open cup design.

Where as the HD598 seem to use a more open cup design.

post #7 of 18
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Well im definitely interested in the HD518s or HD558s if i can find the right deal. I see you own the 558s, can you possibly measure how deep the cups are? Im worried my ear is going to touch the driver, and if that happens im going to have the same problem.

post #8 of 18
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Well I'm definitely interested in the HD518s or HD558s if i can find the right deal. I see you own the 558s, can you possibly measure how deep the cups are? I'm worried my ear is going to touch the driver, and if that happens I'm going to have the same problem.

Should not be a problem, unless your ears stick way way out, then no headphone would be good enough.

Amazon has the HD558s for $132

post #9 of 18
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Im leaning more towards the 518s. After looking at the frequency response graphs on headroom they look very similar, 518s having more bass and a tad bit less treble. Do you think thats the wrong move? I only ask because it seems like you think the 558s are the better deal.

post #10 of 18
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I'm leaning more towards the 518s. After looking at the frequency response graphs on headroom they look very similar, 518s having more bass and a tad bit less treble. Do you think that's the wrong move? I only ask because it seems like you think the 558s are the better deal.

As a HD558 owner, I guess I am biased for the HD558.

I removed the black rubber tape from inside the cups of my HD558, which removed a little bass but helped with mids and treble, so it should sound closer to the HD598.

So to me when someone gets the HD518, I think they are sacrificing a lot of other sound qualities for more bass.

Also theHD558/HD598 are though to better respond (improve) more with amplifiers, compared to the HD518.

 

Also if I really want to bass out, I'll just put on my DT770 Pro 80-Ohm headphones.


Edited by PurpleAngel - 9/18/13 at 7:54am
post #11 of 18
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Will a amp help either pair?

i was looking around and found this amp: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y7S3QY

but i cant find much on it.

my absolute max budget is $160.

i also own a xonar d1/a. i was told it had a better dac.


Edited by tappeddarkman - 9/19/13 at 9:38pm
post #12 of 18
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Will a amp help either pair?

I was looking around and found this amp: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y7S3QY

but i cant find much on it.

my absolute max budget is $160.

I also own a Xonar d1/a. i was told it had a better DAC.

You have the Asus Xonar D1 (PCI) sound card, it comes with the CS4398 DAC chip :)

I own 4 SMSL products, I think at least 2 of them are not work very well.

The Schiit Magni, $99 would be the amplifier to invest in.

post #13 of 18
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I dont know much about audio equipment, is the CS4398 chip half decent?

Asus' site says the dg uses a CMI8786, and a ASUS AV100 for the d1. is the AV100 just a rebranded CS4398?

If i did get the magni, that would leave me less for the headphones.

Would a dedicated amp help the 518s or 558s?

post #14 of 18
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I don't know much about audio equipment, is the CS4398 chip half decent?

Asus' site says the DG uses a CMI8786, and a ASUS AV100 for the D1. is the AV100 just a rebranded CS4398?

If i did get the Magni, that would leave me less for the headphones.

Would a dedicated amp help the 518s or 558s?

The CS4398 is a fairly good DAC chip, a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) chip is not the same as an audio processor (which used for things like surround sound)

The Xonar DG uses the C-Media CMI8786 audio processor chip, the Asus AV 100 is the CMI8788.

The CMI8788 is used in the Asus Xonar DX, D1, STX, ST sound cards, there might be some minor differences (if any?), but Asus has their own label put on the CMI8788.

The 50-Ohm HD518/HD558 will work directly plugged into the DG and the D1.

post #15 of 18
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ok, I think im going to get the hd 558s. One problem i have with the se-a1000s is that the bass is there, but its not punchy at all. With the hd558s can you feel the bass? or do you just know it is there?

Also, would you suggest using the xonar d1 or the dg? i got the dg because the d1 didnt have a headphone amp.

 

EDIT: Well with the se-a1000s you dont feel any of the notes, you just know they are all there.


Edited by tappeddarkman - 9/20/13 at 1:18am
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