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I have the HM700 with me now - I don't want to comment too much on the SQ yet as I haven't had nearly enough time with it but suffice to say it compares very well with DAP of the same price range. I thought it might have been RockChip based but I was told it indeed runs on SigmaTel. In fact, it is possible to RockBox HM700 as the same SoC has been RB'ed before on other DAP. Of course, it also depends on whether there will be interest from the RB community to do it. For now, you can expect all the basic function from your typical SigmaTel based DAP. But if you want gapless or EQ, you will have to wait for someone to RB it.

 

Also got a chance to listen to the upcoming HM802 - it sounds quite like HM801 with a warm, textureful and euphonic presentation, but with the upgraded new UI.

 

Mind if I comment about the non-sonic aspect of the HM700? I'm not too familiar with the RE-x00 series of IEMs bundled so it's gonna be hard for me to make any sonic comments.

 

I'm kinda impressed that the HM700 is being sold for $259 with the RE-400B, and $499 with the RE-600B. Although the output socket is balanced, my Oyaide plug works fine with it but Dr. Bian said that it'll depend on 3.5mm SE to 3.5mm SE.

 

I like the very simplistic UI with the hidden buttons under the black panel. It took me while to use it though to determine the pause/stop button. There is no middle button but just the four (top, bottom, left, right). The middle orange buttons are easier to use.

 

 

 

post #77 of 334
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RE400 works really well the HM700. In a way it shows more improvement being balanced driven than RE600.

post #78 of 334
I was quite impressed with my brief audition of the HM700 i tried at the Tokyo Show.
I really enjoyed listening to it with their in ears and also my own headphones.
post #79 of 334
I just realized 700 does not support high res nor line out...

It will be interesting to find out the comparison of dx50 playback of highres album and 700 playback of the same album (re-ripped to 16/44) using balance....which will perform better?
post #80 of 334

I don't think the 700 is meant to be the centre of a hi-res, hi end system.

 

By the look and spec its more of a lifestyle product, a bit like the Nova N3

post #81 of 334

Can it downsample? If it does that well, it should be fine. Red Book is a wonderful standard that approaches the absolute limits of human ears any way. Now, the downsampling (if you have hi-res files) has to be done right, but that's another story completely!

post #82 of 334
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I just realized 700 does not support high res nor line out...

It will be interesting to find out the comparison of dx50 playback of highres album and 700 playback of the same album (re-ripped to 16/44) using balance....which will perform better?

Subscribed.  A comparison between Hm601, X3 and Dx50 would be perfect. Anyone? :popcorn:

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Subscribed.  A comparison between Hm601, X3 and Dx50 would be perfect. Anyone? :popcorn:


yeah... I just found out that it is now selling locally as a package with the RE400... unfortunately, my spare fund goes to desktop upgrade..

post #84 of 334

Nobody have actually heard anything else about the hm 802 ? I am more interested in that product compared to the hm 700

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Nobody have actually heard anything else about the hm 802 ? I am more interested in that product compared to the hm 700

 

HM802 is not yet released officially. But as far as my first impression on the demo unit goes, it is almost as good sounding as HM801. Probably one of the best implemented WM8740 based DAP I have ever heard.

post #86 of 334

So to you it sound like the hm 801 ? rather than say the digital sound that most dap today seems to pursue heavily ? I actually liked the hm 801 musical sounds where it didn't sound like a digital record at all, does the hm 802 gives out the same kind of impression?

post #87 of 334
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HM802 is not yet released officially. But as far as my first impression on the demo unit goes, it is almost as good sounding as HM801. Probably one of the best implemented WM8740 based DAP I have ever heard.
Warmer than dx50?
post #88 of 334
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So to you it sound like the hm 801 ? rather than say the digital sound that most dap today seems to pursue heavily ? I actually liked the hm 801 musical sounds where it didn't sound like a digital record at all, does the hm 802 gives out the same kind of impression?

 

I won't say it sounds identical to HM801, but it is closer than any DAP I have heard. It is slightly less textured than what I have remembered of HM801, but a little better on clarity. Overall, I'll say they are on par and both can be referred as being musical sounding.

 

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Warmer than dx50?

 

DX50 sounds exceptionally lean to my ears, so just about every DAP is going to be warmer than DX50, even Nano 7G. A better comparison will be the stock X3. But X3 is warm to the dull side, while HM802 is warm but musical. I think it is safe for me to say HM802 easily beat both X3 and DX50.

post #89 of 334
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DX50 sounds exceptionally lean to my ears, so just about every DAP is going to be warmer than DX50, even Nano 7G. A better comparison will be the stock X3. But X3 is warm to the dull side, while HM802 is warm but musical. I think it is safe for me to say HM802 easily beat both X3 and DX50.

sorry... i thought we were talking about 700.... crossed wires........ i need to improve my reading skills. I sort of expected 802 would sound better than the x3 or dx50

post #90 of 334
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sorry... i thought we were talking about 700.... crossed wires........ i need to improve my reading skills. I sort of expected 802 would sound better than the x3 or dx50

 

If we were to disregard the fact the HM700 isn't capable of anything beyond 16/48, I'll say it drives the stock balanced RE400 noticeably better than X3 (even the mod'ed X3) and DX50. It doesn't have a fancy DAC  / SoC / interface / feature list, but the amp section is a killer.

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